Trade Targets

[N Ireland Nets]

Been watching Gay play in the last few Memphis games. I'll be brutally honest, he's a better player than Wallace and therefore its a no brainer to me that I'd do a Wallace Brooks and filler trade in a heartbeat.

If we were able to do something like that while maintaining our draft pick and Hump it would give us some pieces to move before the 2014 deadline next season. Humps deal is really a honey bee magnet for other teams looking to make big 3 team trades. We could be in a good position to pick up some real talent as part of a big deal ala Denver in the Howard deal.

[NyCeEvO]

Brooklyn are monitoring Oden's situation apparently.....

How do we know this?

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[therealbig3]

Now while I agree that Gay is better than Wallace, and on talent and potential alone I would do the trade as well, but as someone that doesn't really watch much of Gay and is going by the comments about him on the GB, he's said to be a guy that needs the ball to be effective. This obviously won't work with a great PG like Deron, and especially with a secondary player who also needs the ball like JJ. The thing with Wallace is that he barely needs the ball on offense, if at all, and he's perfectly content playing that way. And that's awesome, it allows Deron and JJ to do their thing without worrying about giving him touches that he neither needs nor cares for.

Gay, on the other hand, probably wants to have plenty of offensive opportunities, and if he needs the ball in order to be effective offensively, this will almost certainly take away from Deron and JJ. For those that actually watch him more than I do, does he have an off-ball game? Can he be a solid 3rd option WHILE playing off-ball?

[Paradise]

Gay's efficiency within the 3 point lines is really no better than Wallace unless Deron makes him an explosive scorer, I don't see the upgrade aside from age and potential.

I'd only do it if we can keep Gay and making a 6th man wouldn't work either unless he really gets convinced hard into it. I'd run a lineup of Deron, JJ, Gay, Wallace, Lopez.

[Marvin Martian]

Now while I agree that Gay is better than Wallace, and on talent and potential alone I would do the trade as well, but as someone that doesn't really watch much of Gay and is going by the comments about him on the GB, he's said to be a guy that needs the ball to be effective. This obviously won't work with a great PG like Deron, and especially with a secondary player who also needs the ball like JJ. The thing with Wallace is that he barely needs the ball on offense, if at all, and he's perfectly content playing that way. And that's awesome, it allows Deron and JJ to do their thing without worrying about giving him touches that he neither needs nor cares for.

Gay, on the other hand, probably wants to have plenty of offensive opportunities, and if he needs the ball in order to be effective offensively, this will almost certainly take away from Deron and JJ. For those that actually watch him more than I do, does he have an off-ball game? Can he be a solid 3rd option WHILE playing off-ball?

MEM runs extremely few plays for anyone not named Z-bo and Gasol so your question can't be truly answered. Sometimes, Gay will do a give and go with Gasol or run an off ball screen but thats about it.

[Sharcm1]

Gay's efficiency within the 3 point lines is really no better than Wallace unless Deron makes him an explosive scorer, I don't see the upgrade aside from age and potential.

I'd only do it if we can keep Gay and making a 6th man wouldn't work either unless he really gets convinced hard into it. I'd run a lineup of Deron, JJ, Gay, Wallace, Lopez.

That line up is too small. Wallace can't play pf all the time. There are too many teams that have a big pf that will take advantage of his lack of size and he isn't the best offensive player that he make them all pay on the other end.

[SpeedyG]

Could we be in on that in some fashion? Maybe. But I doubt it. I don't think King likes Nene much, which makes too much sense. I also think he really likes Crash, which is fine, but I hope he isn't loyal to a fault or makes some different silly move.

I was thinking of that scenario. How do you say that King doesn't Nene when we were basically targeting him primarily during the off-season as a max deal type signing?

Unfortunately, I don't see it happening. Yeah, Mem wants a SF back, but is that Crash? In my opinion, I don't think so. I think they'd be giving up too much offense by making a swap of Gay for Crash, and their offense will be strictly post-based...limiting their gameplan.

As much as Crash has been an energy source for this team and someone I appreciate, I don't think his value around the league is that great, even if his contract is shorter than Gay's. Memphis can get more for Rudy than Crash.

There's also a problem in this scenario for King and the Nets. Say we deal Marshon and Crash for Nene in this 3way deal...who the heck starts at SF?!? We have nobody else to start at that spot, and please don't say Keith Bogans or Stackhouse. Those two old players cannot cover BOTH backing up SG/SF AND starting at SF.

I think we make a move for Nene, but not for Crash. Besides, does this team really need another passive personality?!?

[N Ireland Nets]

Im presuming that it would be Hump for Nene and Wallace for Gay basically.

I actually think Wallace and Brooks would be very good pick ups for Memphis. They don't run plays for Gay anyway and play through the post already while they would be adding a very offensive guard to go along with an elite defensive guard in Allen.

Gets Memphis below the tax and they pick up a good young guard to add to the rotation. A Wallace & Brooks for Gay deal Is a win win for Memphis in my eyes.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I don't know why you guys want Gay. He will ruin our chemistry.

Gay needs the ball and shots to be effective. Wallace is the complete opposite.

I don't want Gay here. We have enough offense on this team.

[HelloBrooklyn]

I don't know why you guys want Gay. He will ruin our chemistry.

Gay needs the ball and shots to be effective. Wallace is the complete opposite.

I don't want Gay here. We have enough offense on this team.

nice name just remember i'm the originator

[vincecarter4pres]

First it was the Battle of NyCe, now we have Hello for Goodbye.

[vincecarter4pres]

Gerald Wallace for Harrison Barnes and Biedrins, who says no?

[N Ireland Nets]

Gerald Wallace for Harrison Barnes and Biedrins, who says no?

I'd do the deal in a heartbeat.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I don't know why you guys want Gay. He will ruin our chemistry.

Gay needs the ball and shots to be effective. Wallace is the complete opposite.

I don't want Gay here. We have enough offense on this team.

nice name just remember i'm the originator

LOL mine's clearly better though. That space matters.

[Paradise]

After watching this game, we will not go anywhere in the playoffs without keeping our rebounding identity. The Heat, Knicks, Celtics aren't a good rebounding team, we have quality rebounders. Watching our bigs own Hibbert, West on the glass was very impressive.

No trade should be made if we aren't getting back a solid rebounder and shooter or scorer.

[bobbyc]

I don't see Memphis interested in dealing with us.

But, does Washington do my dream trade?

Nene, Ariza
for
Hump, Teletovic, Brooks, 2013 1st

[KingOf NY]

We need someone like İbaka

[N Ireland Nets]

We need someone like İbaka

Thats easy, all we need is the 24th pick in the draft, then pick a huge african beast who plays in Spain....

...Championship!!


In all seriousness yes, it would be perfect to have an Ibaka type power forward. Someone who is a stud defensively and also has a decent mid range game. Sadly these types of players are beyond rare.

[KingOf NY]

We need someone like İbaka

Thats easy, all we need is the 24th pick in the draft, then pick a huge african beast who plays in Spain....

...Championship!!


In all seriousness yes, it would be perfect to have an Ibaka type power forward. Someone who is a stud defensively and also has a decent mid range game. Sadly these types of players are beyond rare.

İ know right. İt would be awesome if we had a superb post defender at the 4 or the 5 like serge. İt would really represent the "toughness" of brooklyn well.

[vincecarter4pres]

Wish we could have somehow kept Favors, man he would have been the perfect fit at the 4 with Deron and next to Lopez.