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Re: Around the NBA, 2016-17 Season thread 

Post#881 » by NyCeEvO » Sun May 21, 2017 3:55 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:Ok I'm done with this conversation lol.

The results of a process do not always correlate with the mechanisms that brought them to be.

This was one of my first lessons in the Logic 101 course I took at college.

If you cant understand that, then theres no point in me explaining it to you.


you might want to ask for a refund on that degree then.

that isnt the way basketball ball works. you cant throw out the entire 47 minutes and and 58 seconds and say "it was all luck". Cavs missed tons of shots. they also went up 10-12 thought the game was over and took their foot off the gas. pacers played as well as they could and still lost.

they got swept. they got their faces bashed in. they couldnt steal 1 game despite cleveland coming out of their regular season hibernation. Hell the pacers nearly missed the playoffs all together where the season woudlnt even have mattered.

For someone who touts watching game tape and going beyond box score metrics to try to find a more accurate measurement of player value, it is quite baffling to see this reductionist stance that all 4-0 series (or any matching win-loss result) are created equally and not go deeper than win-loss record to make your case. Isn't this what happens when we discuss the apparent ineffectiveness of Brook Lopez style of play, which can't be grasped when looking at traditional defensive metrics?

Hello Brooklyn is correct. No, he doesn't need a refund on his degree LOL.

Right or wrong, you have discredited the accomplishments of the Pacers (and thereby their best player, Paul George) for years. You called them a fraud team back when they won 56 games and were the #1 seed in EC. (Mind you, Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh were big contributors in knocking them off in that ECF series, so it wasn't just the LBJ show.)

If we want to knock Paul George for anything, it can be for not giving 100% max effort like Westbrook every regular season game. Traditional "superstars" usually give max effort all of the time. If that's what keeps him from being labeled a superstar, I'll agree and say that he's just an allstar.

PG is streaky during the regular season, but he almost always raises his game to superstar levels for the playoffs. Maybe it is an indication that he is bored/simply doesn't care for the regular season and only desires postseason success; that would match with his "I want to win (or if I'm not going to win, let me play at home)" ultimatum.
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Re: Around the NBA, 2016-17 Season thread 

Post#882 » by Prokorov » Mon May 22, 2017 11:45 am

So guess now somehow getting swept is better then not getting swept, with the celtics beating the cavs on their home floor to make it a 2-1 series?
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Re: Around the NBA, 2016-17 Season thread 

Post#883 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed May 24, 2017 2:07 am

This Celtics team is seriously annoying, like come down broseph's, you're really not this good.
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Post#884 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed May 24, 2017 2:15 am

Kyrie is so damn good and a tough, gritty MF'er. I don't see the Cavs ever letting him walk, but man would it be something to land him in a few years when we should be a really solid team without him.
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Re: Around the NBA, 2016-17 Season thread 

Post#885 » by Prokorov » Wed May 24, 2017 2:17 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:Kyrie is so damn good and a tough, gritty MF'er. I don't see the Cavs ever letting him walk, but man would it be something to land him in a few years when we should be a really solid team without him.


ive long dreamed about bringing kyrie and MKG home to reuinite. would lvoe those 2
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Re: Around the NBA, 2016-17 Season thread 

Post#886 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed May 24, 2017 2:20 am

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vincecarter4pres wrote:Kyrie is so damn good and a tough, gritty MF'er. I don't see the Cavs ever letting him walk, but man would it be something to land him in a few years when we should be a really solid team without him.


ive long dreamed about bringing kyrie and MKG home to reuinite. would lvoe those 2

Kyrie grew up a Nets fan too... :tooth :pray: :party:
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Re: Around the NBA, 2016-17 Season thread 

Post#887 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed May 24, 2017 7:41 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:Kyrie is so damn good and a tough, gritty MF'er. I don't see the Cavs ever letting him walk, but man would it be something to land him in a few years when we should be a really solid team without him.


ive long dreamed about bringing kyrie and MKG home to reuinite. would lvoe those 2

Kyrie grew up a Nets fan too... :tooth :pray: :party:


Kyrie and Anthony Davis is 2021.

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Post#888 » by MrDollarBills » Wed May 24, 2017 12:53 pm

Kyrie and MKG went to high school in Elizabeth. Probably grew up watching the Kidd and VC Nets.

Would love for Kyrie to come "home" if the Cavs ever decide to go in another direction once Bron's prime ends.
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Re: Around the NBA, 2016-17 Season thread 

Post#889 » by NyCeEvO » Wed May 24, 2017 3:32 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:This Celtics team is seriously annoying, like come down broseph's, you're really not this good.

Jerebko is a hilarious. You'd think he was a perennial allstar with the way he's puffing out his chest.

But I like the fact that a team is at least annoying the Cavs on the way to the Finals. This stomping of the East is boring.
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Re: Around the NBA, 2016-17 Season thread 

Post#890 » by CalamityX12 » Wed May 24, 2017 3:45 pm

The whole NBA playoffs have been poor and watered down like its season...
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Re: Around the NBA, 2016-17 Season thread 

Post#891 » by CalamityX12 » Wed May 24, 2017 6:35 pm

While I haven't really rooted for CP3 post NOH days.... I really feel he and San Antonio would be a great pairing and he should really really REALLY do it.

God lord, that would be a great fit in a well tailored system for both sides. He'll get his ring for SURE!
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Re: Around the NBA, 2016-17 Season thread 

Post#892 » by NyCeEvO » Wed May 24, 2017 9:09 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:While I haven't really rooted for CP3 post NOH days.... I really feel he and San Antonio would be a great pairing and he should really really REALLY do it.

God lord, that would be a great fit in a well tailored system for both sides. He'll get his ring for SURE!

I just want another team to be able to at least have a puncher's chance against GSW in the West.

I hope another disgruntled star elevates one of these teams in the East so the same thing happens with Cleveland as well.
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Re: Around the NBA, 2016-17 Season thread 

Post#893 » by Hello Brooklyn » Fri May 26, 2017 3:56 am

I hate Deron Williams so much.

That reason alone, is enough for me to wear Warriors pom poms for the whole Finals.
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Re: Around the NBA, 2016-17 Season thread 

Post#894 » by Paradise » Fri May 26, 2017 4:51 am

Imagine the irony of losing out on a star PG due to the Boston swap and Deron winning a ring in the same month.

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Re: Around the NBA, 2016-17 Season thread 

Post#895 » by shakendfries » Fri May 26, 2017 5:20 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:I hate Deron Williams so much.

That reason alone, is enough for me to wear Warriors pom poms for the whole Finals.


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Re: Around the NBA, 2016-17 Season thread 

Post#896 » by jbeachboy » Fri May 26, 2017 7:12 pm

im rooting for golden state, deron doesnt deserve a ring for what he did here.
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Re: Around the NBA, 2016-17 Season thread 

Post#897 » by playteamball » Fri May 26, 2017 7:20 pm

Not impressed with Lebron's mental game with him saying that it is too "stressful" to think about the Warriors. Both teams annoy me. I'm sick of mentally weak superstars.
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Post#898 » by shakendfries » Sat May 27, 2017 12:05 am

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Re: Around the NBA, 2016-17 Season thread 

Post#899 » by MrDollarBills » Sat May 27, 2017 12:12 am

I have nothing against LeBron, Kylie, etc.

But I want the Warriors to kill the Cavs.

**** Deron Williams. I hope they lose horribly. **** him and everything about him
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Re: Around the NBA, 2016-17 Season thread 

Post#900 » by shakendfries » Sat May 27, 2017 12:14 am

MrDollarBills wrote:I have nothing against LeBron, Kylie, etc.

But I want the Warriors to kill the Cavs.

**** Deron Williams. I hope they lose horribly. **** him and everything about him


I'm with you on that


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