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MrDollarBills wrote:DarkXaero wrote:I'll take that, he only has one more fully guaranteed season. There's no use for him on the court for us but I'll do it for the pick.
I'd do it for the pick.
steady wrote:Kenneth Faried - let's do it
DeRoma wrote:Shabazz a UFA. He might be cheap and a descent 3. How much would you offer him? I'd give him 3yr/27m. Highest I'd go with him is 3yr/36m
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Prokorov wrote:The raptors owner came out and said he wold go into the luxury tax if needed.
Carroll isnt some huge albatross of a contract. 2 years 30 million for a useful 2 way guy?
We would get EITHER a first or one of there ok prospects (Poetl, Bruno, Noguiera). not both. probable a prospect or firsrt rounder and then a second rounder.
We arent dealing with Magic anymore. we wont be able to fleece masai. in fact he is probably looking to see if he can more carroll without giving up an asset at all. calling all the sucker GMs first
Woj himself said that a First Round pick probably wouldn't be enough for us.
Its not a huge contract but it is going to cost them a lot in luxury tax payments.
And there are few teams that are going to have cap space to take him for nothing. So yeah this is a fleece type situation.
Carroll is dead weight. Last season was the worst of his career. There has to be an incentive for us to take him.
MrDollarBills wrote:Sweetdownlow wrote:What do you think about this article?
https://www.thebirdwrites.com/2017/7/2/15910938/nba-trade-scenario-jeremy-lin-pelicans-nets-not-eric-bledsoe-holiday-moore-pondexter-draft-pick
well after reading this, i'm down to dump Lin to NO the first chance that we can get and he can take his sycophant fans with him.
its over. get him out of here.
Antti22 wrote:I think we are in awesome position and we should still wait until a few dominos fall. The money is drying up really quickly and after this whole musical chairs thing is finished there will be lots of talent availlable on reasnoble deals and some awesome salary dump deals. Not to mention that RFA sweepstakes hasnt even started yet.
Papi_swav wrote:Give me Darrel Arthur, he shot 45% on 3s and took 3 per game, he can be a stretch 4. Decent passer and defender as well.
Rich Rane wrote:I think we're all missing the point here. vc4pres needs to stop watching games.
Prokorov wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Sweetdownlow wrote:What do you think about this article?
https://www.thebirdwrites.com/2017/7/2/15910938/nba-trade-scenario-jeremy-lin-pelicans-nets-not-eric-bledsoe-holiday-moore-pondexter-draft-pick
well after reading this, i'm down to dump Lin to NO the first chance that we can get and he can take his sycophant fans with him.
its over. get him out of here.
if we can get their pick unprotected id do it.... chance it could be in the lottery....
Davis/Jrue are always injury risks and maybe cousins doesnt work out.
Prokorov wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Sweetdownlow wrote:What do you think about this article?
https://www.thebirdwrites.com/2017/7/2/15910938/nba-trade-scenario-jeremy-lin-pelicans-nets-not-eric-bledsoe-holiday-moore-pondexter-draft-pick
well after reading this, i'm down to dump Lin to NO the first chance that we can get and he can take his sycophant fans with him.
its over. get him out of here.
if we can get their pick unprotected id do it.... chance it could be in the lottery....
Davis/Jrue are always injury risks and maybe cousins doesnt work out.
Process wrote:Bucks looking to dump a salary, would anybody be interested in Monroe if we could get a young player/pick in return?
vincecarter4pres wrote:Papi_swav wrote:Give me Darrel Arthur, he shot 45% on 3s and took 3 per game, he can be a stretch 4. Decent passer and defender as well.
Yeah, all things equal with the pick and stuff, I take Arthur over Faried any day of the week, especially with our roster.
I've always liked Arthur and felt he's been underrated and goes way beyond his paltry stats. I don't think he can play huge minutes, that may have always been his downfall, but for us that's perfect, still allows RHJ to see plenty of time, no matter which one starts and they can play alongside each other deeper into games.
Arthur and a 1st for cap space would be a major coup for this off-season. The problem is it seems like Denver wants a team to take on both of those guys for a pick. Tbh, it's unreasonable, but not that unreasonable. Both are flawed but solid, average type rotation players. As it stands right now they have about $13 million in cap space. To sign Hill they probably need about $22 million minimum for a 2 year deal, or they're looking to give him similar to Millsap over 3 seasons, so they need about another $15 million.
I still don't see them being all that great next year, especially how stacked the West is. They may very well miss the playoffs again. If the pick is something like only top 2 protected this season, then maybe it goes up to top 5 or 6 protection, but eventually becoming unprotected, it's so-so value. If Marks somehow gets a 2nd 1st out of it, then it's gravy.
Denver's draft moves are just that much more confusing though. Move out of a spot to take a small forward or guard, at lower cap hit then the extra salary they traded for added to the mid-20's pick and then selected another power forward, as was the guy they got in the trade.
NetSymptom wrote:Prokorov wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
well after reading this, i'm down to dump Lin to NO the first chance that we can get and he can take his sycophant fans with him.
its over. get him out of here.
if we can get their pick unprotected id do it.... chance it could be in the lottery....
Davis/Jrue are always injury risks and maybe cousins doesnt work out.
Are they allowed to do that? Didn't they trade their first last year for Cousins?
Prokorov wrote:NetSymptom wrote:Prokorov wrote:
if we can get their pick unprotected id do it.... chance it could be in the lottery....
Davis/Jrue are always injury risks and maybe cousins doesnt work out.
Are they allowed to do that? Didn't they trade their first last year for Cousins?
im not sure. i think last year they couldnt trade it... but i think it resets after the draft
Prokorov wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:Prokorov wrote:The raptors owner came out and said he wold go into the luxury tax if needed.
Carroll isnt some huge albatross of a contract. 2 years 30 million for a useful 2 way guy?
We would get EITHER a first or one of there ok prospects (Poetl, Bruno, Noguiera). not both. probable a prospect or firsrt rounder and then a second rounder.
We arent dealing with Magic anymore. we wont be able to fleece masai. in fact he is probably looking to see if he can more carroll without giving up an asset at all. calling all the sucker GMs first
Woj himself said that a First Round pick probably wouldn't be enough for us.
Its not a huge contract but it is going to cost them a lot in luxury tax payments.
And there are few teams that are going to have cap space to take him for nothing. So yeah this is a fleece type situation.
Carroll is dead weight. Last season was the worst of his career. There has to be an incentive for us to take him.
Their owner stated he would pay tax for 1 year. Masai wont take anything but fair to great value.
were talking about a guy who dumped bargani and GOT a pick in return
Rockice_24 wrote:Prokorov wrote:Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Woj himself said that a First Round pick probably wouldn't be enough for us.
Its not a huge contract but it is going to cost them a lot in luxury tax payments.
And there are few teams that are going to have cap space to take him for nothing. So yeah this is a fleece type situation.
Carroll is dead weight. Last season was the worst of his career. There has to be an incentive for us to take him.
Their owner stated he would pay tax for 1 year. Masai wont take anything but fair to great value.
were talking about a guy who dumped bargani and GOT a pick in return
You also have to realize that the owner isn't going to kill his GM's leverage by saying they need to dump salary either so take that with a grain of salt.
