Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season

[DarkXaero]

Listen, I can dig what you're saying about separating concepts/ideas, etc. and I'm not even in total disagreement with you on some aspects of this one, but you move the goalposts so much on stuff like this all the time it's often hard not to figuratively roll one's eyes at the devolvement of the conversation through a series of your posts.

It’s not hard to follow. Jrue is an established borderline NBA all-star. Caris is still making a name for himself in the NBA so of course the Pels will want a lot for him.

The problem for us is Jrue has only a year left on his deal, and then all the teams that miss out on Giannis, will start throwing ridiculous amounts of money at him.

Now that will put us in a tough situation. To get Jrue, we will have had to trade LeVert plus another player. Once he hits free agency, we will have to give him a 4 year max or it will mean we lost LeVert for just 1 year of Jrue.

Holiday is already 30. Do you really want to pay Jrue Holiday $30+ million when he’s 33 and 34? He’s already undersized for a SG.

LeVert is younger, costs half the price, he’s bigger, and just all around better than Jrue in every way.

You had me til this.

How much longer will Jrue be better than Caris? That is a question which only a psychic can predict, but is worthy to debate anyway. But as of now, Jrue is better than Caris by a fair margin and fits this roster a lot better with a healthy KD and Kyrie and even Dinwiddie.

But if I was a betting man I’d think the Pels would actually prefer something like Dinwiddie, Prince and a 1st and/or Claxton or Rodi for him, instead of the same with Caris, because of Ingram.

Why do you think they would prefer Dinwiddie over Levert because of Ingram? For a team like New Orleans that has a difficult time attracting free agents, I think they would prefer to have a guy locked up long term over an expiring contract that they can lose for nothing. Levert and Ingram aren't ideal fits together but I think they would work out fine.

Also at the line you bolded from him

[Prokorov]

It’s not hard to follow. Jrue is an established borderline NBA all-star. Caris is still making a name for himself in the NBA so of course the Pels will want a lot for him.

The problem for us is Jrue has only a year left on his deal, and then all the teams that miss out on Giannis, will start throwing ridiculous amounts of money at him.

Now that will put us in a tough situation. To get Jrue, we will have had to trade LeVert plus another player. Once he hits free agency, we will have to give him a 4 year max or it will mean we lost LeVert for just 1 year of Jrue.

Holiday is already 30. Do you really want to pay Jrue Holiday $30+ million when he’s 33 and 34? He’s already undersized for a SG.

LeVert is younger, costs half the price, he’s bigger, and just all around better than Jrue in every way.

You had me til this.

How much longer will Jrue be better than Caris? That is a question which only a psychic can predict, but is worthy to debate anyway. But as of now, Jrue is better than Caris by a fair margin and fits this roster a lot better with a healthy KD and Kyrie and even Dinwiddie.

But if I was a betting man I’d think the Pels would actually prefer something like Dinwiddie, Prince and a 1st and/or Claxton or Rodi for him, instead of the same with Caris, because of Ingram.

Why do you think they would prefer Dinwiddie over Levert because of Ingram? For a team like New Orleans that has a difficult time attracting free agents, I think they would prefer to have a guy locked up long term over an expiring contract that they can lose for nothing. Levert and Ingram aren't ideal fits together but I think they would work out fine.

Also at the line you bolded from him

Dinwiddie helps them more to try and make the playoffs. which they may want to do for experience and money reasons.

Levert is a poor fit. injury risk. redudnant with their best players. i think for levert a 3 team deal makes more sense

[DarkXaero]

You had me til this.

How much longer will Jrue be better than Caris? That is a question which only a psychic can predict, but is worthy to debate anyway. But as of now, Jrue is better than Caris by a fair margin and fits this roster a lot better with a healthy KD and Kyrie and even Dinwiddie.

But if I was a betting man I’d think the Pels would actually prefer something like Dinwiddie, Prince and a 1st and/or Claxton or Rodi for him, instead of the same with Caris, because of Ingram.

Why do you think they would prefer Dinwiddie over Levert because of Ingram? For a team like New Orleans that has a difficult time attracting free agents, I think they would prefer to have a guy locked up long term over an expiring contract that they can lose for nothing. Levert and Ingram aren't ideal fits together but I think they would work out fine.

Also at the line you bolded from him

Dinwiddie helps them more to try and make the playoffs. which they may want to do for experience and money reasons.

Levert is a poor fit. injury risk. redudnant with their best players. i think for levert a 3 team deal makes more sense

I don't think making the playoffs is the move for them. I think the move for them is to develop their young core. I don't think Levert is a poor fit, he can replace Lonzo as the PG for them or play alongside Lonzo. If Ingram wasn't a really good catch & shoot guy this season, I would agree, but he has turned into one somehow. Injury risk is always there with Levert, it is what it is.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Holiday hasn't even made the All Star team in 7 years.

Are you really going to knock Jrue for not making the all-star team in the west? in a conference where even Damian Lillard was often left off the team? Where Curry/Harden/Westbrook/Paul/Kobe (voted in) where regular locks? How many all-star games have dinwiddie or levert made again?

Also what do you mean his contract is expiring next season? He has an option for 2022 for 27 million.

Its a lock he opts out for 1 more large deal, taking extra years and total dollars over average annual value

I'm not paying that much for a non-All Star when we can get a role player who does most of what he does for much less.

Please enlighten me to these role players who are going to give you 20/7 while making the all-defensive team?

I'm not convinced Holiday would make the All Star team in the East either. He's not that good.

Were not being asked to unload a bunch of assets for Levert or Dinwiddie. Were not being asked to pay either of those guys 26 million.

We don't need 20/7 from Holiday, when we can get similar production from Dinwddie/Levert and not have to pay them a ton of money.

Defense can be found elsewhere.

[Prokorov]

Why do you think they would prefer Dinwiddie over Levert because of Ingram? For a team like New Orleans that has a difficult time attracting free agents, I think they would prefer to have a guy locked up long term over an expiring contract that they can lose for nothing. Levert and Ingram aren't ideal fits together but I think they would work out fine.

Also at the line you bolded from him

Dinwiddie helps them more to try and make the playoffs. which they may want to do for experience and money reasons.

Levert is a poor fit. injury risk. redudnant with their best players. i think for levert a 3 team deal makes more sense

I don't think making the playoffs is the move for them. I think the move for them is to develop their young core. I don't think Levert is a poor fit, he can replace Lonzo as the PG for them or play alongside Lonzo. If Ingram wasn't a really good catch & shoot guy this season, I would agree, but he has turned into one somehow. Injury risk is always there with Levert, it is what it is.

Lonzo is younger than levert and better on both ends. i cant see why they would sit lonzo for him. and next to him doesnt work for the same reason levert didnt work next to kyrie, russell, or dinwiddie very well.

Really, Levert is the exact type they dont want.... mid level contract, injury risk, good enough to beat out young guys but not good enough to lead you to wins. he is too in between for them

[Prokorov]

I'm not convinced Holiday would make the All Star team in the East either. He's not that good.

How exactly is he "not good"? he gives you 20/7/5 with All-NBA defense. He is basically a bigger younger lowry and lowry was an allstar. Lowry the better range shooter, jrue better at the rim. both all world defenders. Jrue can guard 1 through 4.

Last time in the east he was an all-star, with worse numbers and not as developed. He certainly is as good as the guards that made it recently.

Were not being asked to unload a bunch of assets for Levert or Dinwiddie. Were not being asked to pay either of those guys 26 million.

The salary is irrelevant. outgoing salary would be matched and its short money. And we dont really have "assets". Levert, Allen, our picks are all low level assets. the hope would be enough of them and Jrue pushing to come here would get it done.

We don't need 20/7 from Holiday, when we can get similar production from Dinwddie/Levert and not have to pay them a ton of money.

you wont get 20/7 from either guy. especially doing it as a second or third option like Jrue has proven to do. and certainly not with elite defense

Defense can be found elsewhere.

a 2-way player who plays all-nba defense is the toughest thing to find in the league. the number of guys who score 20 and make All-NBA defense is a VERY short list.

[vincecarter4pres]

It’s not hard to follow. Jrue is an established borderline NBA all-star. Caris is still making a name for himself in the NBA so of course the Pels will want a lot for him.

The problem for us is Jrue has only a year left on his deal, and then all the teams that miss out on Giannis, will start throwing ridiculous amounts of money at him.

Now that will put us in a tough situation. To get Jrue, we will have had to trade LeVert plus another player. Once he hits free agency, we will have to give him a 4 year max or it will mean we lost LeVert for just 1 year of Jrue.

Holiday is already 30. Do you really want to pay Jrue Holiday $30+ million when he’s 33 and 34? He’s already undersized for a SG.

LeVert is younger, costs half the price, he’s bigger, and just all around better than Jrue in every way.

You had me til this.

How much longer will Jrue be better than Caris? That is a question which only a psychic can predict, but is worthy to debate anyway. But as of now, Jrue is better than Caris by a fair margin and fits this roster a lot better with a healthy KD and Kyrie and even Dinwiddie.

But if I was a betting man I’d think the Pels would actually prefer something like Dinwiddie, Prince and a 1st and/or Claxton or Rodi for him, instead of the same with Caris, because of Ingram.

Why do you think they would prefer Dinwiddie over Levert because of Ingram? For a team like New Orleans that has a difficult time attracting free agents, I think they would prefer to have a guy locked up long term over an expiring contract that they can lose for nothing. Levert and Ingram aren't ideal fits together but I think they would work out fine.

Also at the line you bolded from him

I think Dinwiddie fits their roster better, is the better player then LeVert and more durable and is only a year older. It is true though that they could just lose him straight up and might have to almost max him to keep him, so chances are you're right and they do prefer LeVert.

[DarkXaero]

Dinwiddie helps them more to try and make the playoffs. which they may want to do for experience and money reasons.

Levert is a poor fit. injury risk. redudnant with their best players. i think for levert a 3 team deal makes more sense

I don't think making the playoffs is the move for them. I think the move for them is to develop their young core. I don't think Levert is a poor fit, he can replace Lonzo as the PG for them or play alongside Lonzo. If Ingram wasn't a really good catch & shoot guy this season, I would agree, but he has turned into one somehow. Injury risk is always there with Levert, it is what it is.

Lonzo is younger than levert and better on both ends. i cant see why they would sit lonzo for him. and next to him doesnt work for the same reason levert didnt work next to kyrie, russell, or dinwiddie very well.

Really, Levert is the exact type they dont want.... mid level contract, injury risk, good enough to beat out young guys but not good enough to lead you to wins. he is too in between for them

Dude I know you don't rate Levert, but Lonzo is absolutely not better than Levert offensively. Lonzo also has far bigger problems to fix in terms of his game, Levert is a lot more developed.

[DarkXaero]

You had me til this.

How much longer will Jrue be better than Caris? That is a question which only a psychic can predict, but is worthy to debate anyway. But as of now, Jrue is better than Caris by a fair margin and fits this roster a lot better with a healthy KD and Kyrie and even Dinwiddie.

But if I was a betting man I’d think the Pels would actually prefer something like Dinwiddie, Prince and a 1st and/or Claxton or Rodi for him, instead of the same with Caris, because of Ingram.

Why do you think they would prefer Dinwiddie over Levert because of Ingram? For a team like New Orleans that has a difficult time attracting free agents, I think they would prefer to have a guy locked up long term over an expiring contract that they can lose for nothing. Levert and Ingram aren't ideal fits together but I think they would work out fine.

Also at the line you bolded from him

I think Dinwiddie fits their roster better, is the better player then LeVert and more durable and is only a year older. It is true though that they could just lose him straight up and might have to almost max him to keep him, so chances are you're right and they do prefer LeVert.

Fair enough but I think the contract situation changes teams' preferences between those two players a lot.

[vincecarter4pres]

I'm not convinced Holiday would make the All Star team in the East either. He's not that good.

How exactly is he "not good"? he gives you 20/7/5 with All-NBA defense. He is basically a bigger younger lowry and lowry was an allstar. Lowry the better range shooter, jrue better at the rim. both all world defenders. Jrue can guard 1 through 4.

Last time in the east he was an all-star, with worse numbers and not as developed. He certainly is as good as the guards that made it recently.

Just wanted to touch on some of this stuff cause I was going to quote him too. I don't think I'm as high on Jrue as you, but I am very high on him. I don't think he's worth nearly what you do value wise either, but I think he can be had for at worst, one of LeVert or Dinwiddie, a 1st and salary filler. But more so what I wanted to say was, who cares if he was an All Star, as long as his play was All Star level? Even if he's like a 16/6/4 guy here on 32mpg, as long as his D was still top notch, as long as he was just as athletic as this year, made the right decisions, etc., who would care about titles like All Star? I'm saying this mainly to Hello Brooklyn, or rhetorically.

We don't need 20/7 from Holiday, when we can get similar production from Dinwddie/Levert and not have to pay them a ton of money.

you wont get 20/7 from either guy. especially doing it as a second or third option like Jrue has proven to do. and certainly not with elite defense

You might get it from Dinwiddie on offense. Dinwiddie is being underrated here, he was a 20/7 guy this year as basically a 2nd option. But you're not getting the D from him, or LeVert. And LeVert might continue to grow, but if he doesn't wildly improve as a shooter, it's going to be hard for him to ever maintain any real efficiency and he's not going to be able to play on ball like he does now in most instances. If he's not the 6xth man, or it's not a rest game for Kyrie or KD, he doesn't fit great all game on this roster. And it's still likely he won't be durable himself.

That said, you better be dead set on Jrue being your main acquisition for the next 2 or 3 seasons once you deal one or both of LeVert or Dinwiddie, cause you're not going to be able to re-deal Holiday in a couple years even if his play is still high level, there is an optical expiration date in relation to value for guys like him at his age if we're talking 2 or 3 seasons down the line.

So is it worth it to say we're mainly out of the sweepstakes for the next big name in the future to get Jrue?

Defense can be found elsewhere.

a 2-way player who plays all-nba defense is the toughest thing to find in the league. the number of guys who score 20 and make All-NBA defense is a VERY short list.

Have to add to this, you can't play 6 on 5. So like yeah, you can find a wing defender, but maybe he can't shoot for ****, or he can't take more than 1 dribble without turning it over, or he's a complete basketball moron on the offensive end. And what happens when you want the Dinwiddie or LeVert on offense, but the Jrue, prime Avery Bradley/Tony Allen on D? Having a guy like Jrue who is both cannot be written off as common, or just a slight luxury, it's a big time advantage. There are a lot of guys who 3, there are a lot who can D, there are some who can do both, but there are very few any time of the game, any situation 2 way studs like Andre Iguodala, Jrue Holiday and Kerry Kittles.

[Prokorov]

Dude I know you don't rate Levert, but Lonzo is absolutely not better than Levert offensively. Lonzo also has far bigger problems to fix in terms of his game, Levert is a lot more developed.

Ball is better offensively. Better shooter, better ball handler, better passer, and has the "IT" factor. always in the right spots always makes the right players. his role isnt to score. and levert is 4 years old, so he should be ahead developmentally (although i think he is actually behind)

The only thing levert does better is take more shots. Not that lonzo is some great offensive player. but he is a glue guy for sure. different roles. Lonzo is better at his. if levert was PG of the Pelicans he would have to defer to 2 or 3 guys like lonzo. thats not his game

[Prokorov]

Why do you think they would prefer Dinwiddie over Levert because of Ingram? For a team like New Orleans that has a difficult time attracting free agents, I think they would prefer to have a guy locked up long term over an expiring contract that they can lose for nothing. Levert and Ingram aren't ideal fits together but I think they would work out fine.

Also at the line you bolded from him

I think Dinwiddie fits their roster better, is the better player then LeVert and more durable and is only a year older. It is true though that they could just lose him straight up and might have to almost max him to keep him, so chances are you're right and they do prefer LeVert.

Fair enough but I think the contract situation changes teams' preferences between those two players a lot.

I think that dinwiddies deal is better for them. those in between contracts like leverts with years on them can hinder flexibility. Dinwiddie could be retained for similar money or dealt as an expiring.

leverts deal is great if you are an over the cap team. not an under the cap team

[vincecarter4pres]

I don't think making the playoffs is the move for them. I think the move for them is to develop their young core. I don't think Levert is a poor fit, he can replace Lonzo as the PG for them or play alongside Lonzo. If Ingram wasn't a really good catch & shoot guy this season, I would agree, but he has turned into one somehow. Injury risk is always there with Levert, it is what it is.

Lonzo is younger than levert and better on both ends. i cant see why they would sit lonzo for him. and next to him doesnt work for the same reason levert didnt work next to kyrie, russell, or dinwiddie very well.

Really, Levert is the exact type they dont want.... mid level contract, injury risk, good enough to beat out young guys but not good enough to lead you to wins. he is too in between for them

Dude I know you don't rate Levert, but Lonzo is absolutely not better than Levert offensively. Lonzo also has far bigger problems to fix in terms of his game, Levert is a lot more developed.

Yup. Sure there is the age difference and the such and Lonzo looked a little better then his usual self the first maybe 30 games this year, but LeVert is further along as a player, and right now most obviously better. Not necessarily immensely better, but he is better and it's obvious. To me LeVert has the higher ceiling too and is likely to hit it next year and the year after and maintain it for 3 or 4 seasons beyond.

[Nycnyc7188]

I'm not convinced Holiday would make the All Star team in the East either. He's not that good.

How exactly is he "not good"? he gives you 20/7/5 with All-NBA defense. He is basically a bigger younger lowry and lowry was an allstar. Lowry the better range shooter, jrue better at the rim. both all world defenders. Jrue can guard 1 through 4.

Last time in the east he was an all-star, with worse numbers and not as developed. He certainly is as good as the guards that made it recently.

Were not being asked to unload a bunch of assets for Levert or Dinwiddie. Were not being asked to pay either of those guys 26 million.

The salary is irrelevant. outgoing salary would be matched and its short money. And we dont really have "assets". Levert, Allen, our picks are all low level assets. the hope would be enough of them and Jrue pushing to come here would get it done.

We don't need 20/7 from Holiday, when we can get similar production from Dinwddie/Levert and not have to pay them a ton of money.

you wont get 20/7 from either guy. especially doing it as a second or third option like Jrue has proven to do. and certainly not with elite defense

Defense can be found elsewhere.

a 2-way player who plays all-nba defense is the toughest thing to find in the league. the number of guys who score 20 and make All-NBA defense is a VERY short list.

Let it go, holiday is mediocre

[vincecarter4pres]

I think Dinwiddie fits their roster better, is the better player then LeVert and more durable and is only a year older. It is true though that they could just lose him straight up and might have to almost max him to keep him, so chances are you're right and they do prefer LeVert.

Fair enough but I think the contract situation changes teams' preferences between those two players a lot.

I think that dinwiddies deal is better for them. those in between contracts like leverts with years on them can hinder flexibility. Dinwiddie could be retained for similar money or dealt as an expiring.

leverts deal is great if you are an over the cap team. not an under the cap team

I feel like LeVert's value to us and more importantly a team we're looking to acquire a big name player from, is in finding that 3rd team that values LeVert as a 2a/2b centerpiece.

A team like the Hawks in the summer of '05 when they S&T'd multiple 1st rounders for Joe Johnson. Joe Johnson was the much better shooter at the time, but there are a lot of similarities. A very inefficient young player who showed some big time glimpses of advanced play, who was being used in the wrong role entirely on his team due to the rest of the roster, but who needed high usage and to be towards the top of his team's food chain to be effective. Atlanta recognized this and fell in love with him. Phoenix knew it, but knew they couldn't allow him that freedom, usage and promote him that high, there were just much better players and a different system in place ahead of him and around him.

It's not a perfect analogy, but it has merit. LeVert is not going to work on every team. Not every team is going to be in love with him to hand him a permanent lead role. But there are teams out there who will, or who want to totally change direction and him combined with a guy like Allen, or multiple picks will convince them. There are GM's out there who right now are thinking, "Put him on my roster, with my coach, along with our young big guy and our incoming high lotto pick and he'll be great. He'll be a medium efficiency 20/7/5 guy who will make players around him better."

[Hello Brooklyn]

Dude I know you don't rate Levert, but Lonzo is absolutely not better than Levert offensively. Lonzo also has far bigger problems to fix in terms of his game, Levert is a lot more developed.

Ball is better offensively. Better shooter, better ball handler, better passer, and has the "IT" factor. always in the right spots always makes the right players. his role isnt to score. and levert is 4 years old, so he should be ahead developmentally (although i think he is actually behind)

The only thing levert does better is take more shots. Not that lonzo is some great offensive player. but he is a glue guy for sure. different roles. Lonzo is better at his. if levert was PG of the Pelicans he would have to defer to 2 or 3 guys like lonzo. thats not his game

This is completely delusional.

Lonzo Ball is horrid offensively. He doesn't take more shots because he is passive offensively.

He is not a better shooter.

He shooting percentages are awful and he was basically healthy this year. 40% from the field and 56% from the FT line!!!!

And him and Levert shot basically the same from 3.

How can a guard shoot sub 60% from the FT line?

[Prokorov]

Fair enough but I think the contract situation changes teams' preferences between those two players a lot.

I think that dinwiddies deal is better for them. those in between contracts like leverts with years on them can hinder flexibility. Dinwiddie could be retained for similar money or dealt as an expiring.

leverts deal is great if you are an over the cap team. not an under the cap team

I feel like LeVert's value to us and more importantly a team we're looking to acquire a big name player from, is in finding that 3rd team that values LeVert as a 2a/2b centerpiece.

A team like the Hawks in the summer of '05 when they S&T'd multiple 1st rounders for Joe Johnson. Joe Johnson was the much better shooter at the time, but there are a lot of similarities. A very inefficient young player who showed some big time glimpses of advanced play, who was being used in the wrong role entirely on his team due to the rest of the roster, but who needed high usage and to be towards the top of his team's food chain to be effective. Atlanta recognized this and fell in love with him. Phoenix knew it, but knew they couldn't allow him that freedom, usage and promote him that high, there were just much better players and a different system in place ahead of him and around him.

It's not a perfect analogy, but it has merit. LeVert is not going to work on every team. Not every team is going to be in love with him to hand him a permanent lead role. But there are teams out there who will, or who want to totally change direction and him combined with a guy like Allen, or multiple picks will convince them. There are GM's out there who right now are thinking, "Put him on my roster, with my coach, along with our young big guy and our incoming high lotto pick and he'll be great. He'll be a medium efficiency 20/7/5 guy who will make players around him better."

Yea. i think the injury and being 25+ makes it less likely for a non-playoff team. i think that third team is a playoff/top 4 seed that lost a key piece or fell short and wants to swap out a piece not working for levert. like i could see the spurs or nuggets or someone like that being a fit. or even the raptors if they lose a piece or two

[vincecarter4pres]

I think that dinwiddies deal is better for them. those in between contracts like leverts with years on them can hinder flexibility. Dinwiddie could be retained for similar money or dealt as an expiring.

leverts deal is great if you are an over the cap team. not an under the cap team

I feel like LeVert's value to us and more importantly a team we're looking to acquire a big name player from, is in finding that 3rd team that values LeVert as a 2a/2b centerpiece.

A team like the Hawks in the summer of '05 when they S&T'd multiple 1st rounders for Joe Johnson. Joe Johnson was the much better shooter at the time, but there are a lot of similarities. A very inefficient young player who showed some big time glimpses of advanced play, who was being used in the wrong role entirely on his team due to the rest of the roster, but who needed high usage and to be towards the top of his team's food chain to be effective. Atlanta recognized this and fell in love with him. Phoenix knew it, but knew they couldn't allow him that freedom, usage and promote him that high, there were just much better players and a different system in place ahead of him and around him.

It's not a perfect analogy, but it has merit. LeVert is not going to work on every team. Not every team is going to be in love with him to hand him a permanent lead role. But there are teams out there who will, or who want to totally change direction and him combined with a guy like Allen, or multiple picks will convince them. There are GM's out there who right now are thinking, "Put him on my roster, with my coach, along with our young big guy and our incoming high lotto pick and he'll be great. He'll be a medium efficiency 20/7/5 guy who will make players around him better."

Yea. i think the injury and being 25+ makes it less likely for a non-playoff team. i think that third team is a playoff/top 4 seed that lost a key piece or fell short and wants to swap out a piece not working for levert. like i could see the spurs or nuggets or someone like that being a fit. or even the raptors if they lose a piece or two

For Murray, amirite?

[vincecarter4pres]

How bout a few outside the box ones?

Brooklyn sends:
Caris LeVert

Charlotte sends:
PJ Washington
Malik Monk


Brooklyn sends:
Caris LeVert

Chicago sends:
Lauri Markkanen
Wendell Carter Jr


Brooklyn sends:
19th overall pick
Musa

OKC sends:
Darius Bazley

[TheNetsFan]

How bout a few outside the box ones?

Brooklyn sends:
Caris LeVert

Charlotte sends:
PJ Washington
Malik Monk


Brooklyn sends:
Caris LeVert

Chicago sends:
Lauri Markkanen
Wendell Carter Jr


Brooklyn sends:
19th overall pick
Musa

OKC sends:
Darius Bazley

Do any of those moves give us a better shot at a 2021 championship? Nope