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I feel obligated to do this to balance the irrationality and rationality of this board. I am the Ying to your Yang.... Yang to your Ying? Whatever.

Scenario #1

- New Jersey Nets land the #1 pick and draft:



6'4, 195 pounds, 19 years old, John Wall out of Kentucky: Wall has been referred to having the athleticism of Derrick Rose if not better, and have the best court vision seen in years out of college. Whether its giving a no-look pass from the 3pt line to his PF to cut to the basket, or finishing at the rim, he is in a class of his own. It's been said that Wall has a certain leadership quality about him, very charismatic and contagious personality.

- Nets draft Jarvis Varnado with the Dallas pick
- Nets draft Eric Bledsoe with their 2nd rounder (3rd string PG)

- After all its expirings the Nets are left with this:
Harris/Wall/Bledsoe
Lee
Mr.T
Yi/Varnado
Lopez/Humphries


- Nets sign Mike Miller: Out of FA's to fill out our bench I want this guy the most. An average-above average defender. This Forward is long, can play the 2, and is a dead-eye shooter from beyond the arc. He's also a great locker room presence, after all the Wizards fiasco he stepped up his play and just led by example.

- Nets sign Theo Ratliff: He will come cheap at the vet minimum, sign him for as little time as possible.

- Nets resign CDR: He showed us great flashes of heart early on, and can be very good when motivated, just what you need off the bench, if he comes cheap, I say resign him.

-Nets sign David Lee: Often associated as a stat stuffer, David Lee keeps proving is critics wrong. Once he was placed at the PF position in NY to see how he would coup with faster players, he did what he does best, average a double-double, and finished the season off with 20 pts and 11.7 rebs! He will come at a relatively cheap price for what he does, I expect a 12-13M per year offer to be thrown at him. At first I wanted Boozer, but he is too injury prone, look at the Jazz right now, had a great season with him and just before the playoffs he is back to a suit and watching from the bench.

- Nets Keep Devin Harris: The offers being thrown around this board for our all-star PG have been extremely weak to say the least. If he goes to any of the teams we've been talking about (Pacers, Miami, Raptors-with Bosh) it immediately makes them a threat in the East, and definitely makes them a playoff team. Ford + #10? Michael Beasley? Bellinelli + #12????? Cmon guys, that's a bit ridiculous from a non homer standpoint.

The great argument: "The Co-existing of Harris and Wall"
This board has been pretty much split on Harris and Wall playing together. In an earlier thread deviljets pointed out that they would have to play at least 15 minutes together for both Harris and Wall to get enough minutes so we can make full use of their talents. I'd like to point out that Wall's jumper isn't as bad as some of you may think, his jumper is a lot more reliable than Derrick Rose's jumper in his rookie year. Harris can be pretty deadly from beyond the arc when he's on point, of course that won't happen every night so lets just say during those 15 minutes our team becomes a full blown penetrating force. Both Harris and Wall are great athletes, and very good ball handlers, Wall has amazing court vision and Harris doesn't stay too far behind in that category either. They penetrate along with Mr.T (don't forget him!), who is also a more than able passer, and just rip the defense apart with either passes to Lopez and Lee or passing it in transition getting each other to the foul line.

LeBron, Wade, Bosh (yuck), Johnson (I hope not), and Amare aren't coming here.
We can have a playoff team and make some noise in the east, lure Carmelo with our team and Brooklyn.

Finished Product:

Harris/Wall/Bledsoe
Lee/Bell/CDR
Mr.T/Miller/CDR
D.Lee/Yi/Varnado
Lopez/Humphries/Ratliff

Scenario #2: Coming Soon

I don't hate it...
You do not bring the #1 overall pick in the NBA draft off the bench though, no matter what.

vincecarter4pres wrote:I don't hate it...
You do not bring the #1 overall pick in the NBA draft off the bench though, no matter what.

Just for the first half of the season. Eventually Harris becomes our 6th man.

I'm still not a fan of it most of these moves. It'd make us better than last year of course, but that still a 2nd round out for the next few years to tell you the truth. I don't want to fall into that rut that we did after our Finals seasons.

The other thing I'm not hugely fond of in that is our front court. Varnado isn't really the kind of guy I want to draft to tell you the truth. Yes he's solid defensively nobody in the front court who will get significant minutes stretches the Defense for Brook. I do like David Lee, but he doesn't sit with me when I think about him playing next to Brook 35 minutes a game. His mid-range is too shaky and his face up game is suspect. Yes he costs much less than a lot of other players available, but I want to build a team to win, not build a team to "Not be like this year." I'm fine drafting someone like Varnado or my boy Larry Sanders, but I'll blow my lid if don't get an talented, athletic big man to play next to Brook.

Honestly though this is my Draft though:

1: Wall (no brainer)
27: Kyle Singler (actually DOES what we wish Yi did)
Round 2: Devin Ebanks

Than we sign an athletic big man to play the 4 (I'm still on the fence on who that is), resign Battie another decent Vet defensive big man/work horse.

Honestly, I'm scared to use most of our Cap this offseason. I don't want to. The other other problem is I actually LIKE our young wing players so I'm afraid to bring anyone in who isn't legit because I'd rather keep playing our youngins.

I don't know I'm just really clueless in how I'd approach this offseason right now.

Preludepunk27 wrote:I'm still not a fan of it most of these moves. It'd make us better than last year of course, but that still a 2nd round out for the next few years to tell you the truth. I don't want to fall into that rut that we did after our Finals seasons.

The other thing I'm not hugely fond of in that is our front court. Varnado isn't really the kind of guy I want to draft to tell you the truth. Yes he's solid defensively nobody in the front court who will get significant minutes stretches the Defense for Brook. I do like David Lee, but he doesn't sit with me when I think about him playing next to Brook 35 minutes a game. His mid-range is too shaky and his face up game is suspect. Yes he costs much less than a lot of other players available, but I want to build a team to win, not build a team to "Not be like this year." I'm fine drafting someone like Varnado or my boy Larry Sanders, but I'll blow my lid if don't get an talented, athletic big man to play next to Brook.

Honestly though this is my Draft though:

1: Wall (no brainer)
27: Kyle Singler (actually DOES what we wish Yi did)
Round 2: Devin Ebanks

Than we sign an athletic big man to play the 4 (I'm still on the fence on who that is), resign Battie another decent Vet defensive big man/work horse.

Honestly, I'm scared to use most of our Cap this offseason. I don't want to. The other other problem is I actually LIKE our young wing players so I'm afraid to bring anyone in who isn't legit because I'd rather keep playing our youngins.

I don't know I'm just really clueless in how I'd approach this offseason right now.

It won´t be a 2nd round team if Carmelo joins in 2011. ´With the roster I demonstrated, our young wings will be getting most of the PT over the vets.

What other choice besides David Lee do we have? Carlos Boozer? You want to take a chance on that?

SOUP wrote:

Preludepunk27 wrote:I'm still not a fan of it most of these moves. It'd make us better than last year of course, but that still a 2nd round out for the next few years to tell you the truth. I don't want to fall into that rut that we did after our Finals seasons.

The other thing I'm not hugely fond of in that is our front court. Varnado isn't really the kind of guy I want to draft to tell you the truth. Yes he's solid defensively nobody in the front court who will get significant minutes stretches the Defense for Brook. I do like David Lee, but he doesn't sit with me when I think about him playing next to Brook 35 minutes a game. His mid-range is too shaky and his face up game is suspect. Yes he costs much less than a lot of other players available, but I want to build a team to win, not build a team to "Not be like this year." I'm fine drafting someone like Varnado or my boy Larry Sanders, but I'll blow my lid if don't get an talented, athletic big man to play next to Brook.

Honestly though this is my Draft though:

1: Wall (no brainer)
27: Kyle Singler (actually DOES what we wish Yi did)
Round 2: Devin Ebanks

Than we sign an athletic big man to play the 4 (I'm still on the fence on who that is), resign Battie another decent Vet defensive big man/work horse.

Honestly, I'm scared to use most of our Cap this offseason. I don't want to. The other other problem is I actually LIKE our young wing players so I'm afraid to bring anyone in who isn't legit because I'd rather keep playing our youngins.

I don't know I'm just really clueless in how I'd approach this offseason right now.

It won´t be a 2nd round team if Carmelo joins in 2011. ´With the roster I demonstrated, our young wings will be getting most of the PT.

What other choice besides David Lee do we have? Carlos Boozer? You want to take a chance on that?

With what money are we gonna use to get Melo. He'll get a max deal and I don't want to give up too much young talent in a S&T that screws us after a few seasons like what is happening to the Celtics now. After your suggestion of Lee, Bell, Miller, Ratliff, the possibility of CDR still being here, another 1st round pick the following summer, I can't see us having the money for a max deal that summer.

Fine, drop Raja Bell. Even WITH Raja Bell I think the numbers are possible to give him a max deal next summer. Btw, Ratliff is only signed for 1 season.

vincecarter4pres wrote:I don't hate it...
You do not bring the #1 overall pick in the NBA draft off the bench though, no matter what.

This.

Also, not a chance Bledsoe falls this far in the draft (he's going to go top 20). On that note, why use that pick a 3rd PG that would never, ever see the floor due to Harris and Wall?

In addition how viable is having cap space for Melo when you're proposing a multi-year deal for Bell, a contract for Miller and you're keeping Devin Harris?

deviljets7 wrote:

vincecarter4pres wrote:I don't hate it...
You do not bring the #1 overall pick in the NBA draft off the bench though, no matter what.

This.

Also, not a chance Bledsoe falls this far in the draft (he's going to go top 20). On that note, why use that pick a 3rd PG that would never, ever see the floor due to Harris and Wall?

In addition how viable is having cap space for Melo when you're proposing a multi-year deal for Bell, a contract for Miller and you're keeping Devin Harris?

Injuries happen, Bledsoe has a high chance of getting some time. I mainly want him though because he would be there during practice, giving Wall a familiar face, creating a more family environment.

Already said scratch Bell.

Oh and this guy says hi:

^^^
Just wanted to be clear that I don't have an issue with Bledsoe the player. If anything I think he is quite overqualified for what you're asking him to do here and IMO he's the 2nd best PG in this draft and will likely be gone by pick 20.

Also keep in mind that TWill has shown he can run the point in a pinch and be that backup/insurance there. I'm not saying you should pencil him in as the #2 PG, but he's more than qualified to be that #3 guy.

My head hurts!!!! please help

Whenever I hear Kyle Singler I throw up a little in my mouth. In fact I just threw up on the keyboard while typing his name..... Im on board with Larry Sanders with the Mavs pick.

^^^^^

To tell you the truth, I'm not high on him either, but he fills a need. I'd only see it happening if we moved Yi though. Either way again I'm not high on him but trust me he'll have a better NBA career than Ed Davis.

Its never ever a good idea to draft a franchise guy to have him play backup to another player, it just doesnt work.
Would Lopez be what he is today had he played backup to Boone all last season?
Would Rose be what he is today had he played backup to Hinrich?

Fact of the matter is even in the best case scenario, it works out for us and Wall somehow develops into the franchise player he'll probably be by playing backup to Harris, eventually we're still gonna have to trade one of them.
I honestly think that getting back OJ Mayo/Besasley/Igudalal or another good/talented wing player for Harris would be a great deal for us.

Of course you can throw just about all these ideas out the windows if we dont get pick #1.

Harris/Wall/Bledsoe
Lee/Bell/CDR
Mr.T/Miller/CDR
D.Lee/Yi/Varnado
Lopez/Humphries/Ratliff

^^^^^^This team will have a hard time winning 25-30 games.Unless we trade Harris and give Wall the keys from the door,then we might have a chance he pulls a D.Rose and gets us into a low seed in the playoffs.We need Wall or Turner to be our superstar,our go to guy in the 4th quarter when the pressures on,our guy who is gonna draw the double teams.If we draft either of those guys and they don't turn out to be that guy and we don't sign LBJ,Wade or JoeJohn then the Nets are gonna be in TROUBLE.Thats why i'm off the Rudy Gay bandwagon around here because he's not that guy I'd rather save the cap space and see what T.Will can do next season starting with CDR off the bench.I guess i would sign D.Lee because he's the cheapest upgrade out there that won't take away from Brook's development but he won't make much of a difference when it comes to wins.I'll take Miller also because he's a nice role player to have because of his shooting but i've never known him to be a defensive player.AGAIN we need a go to guy,we can't have a team filled with a bunch of role players.