LA/NJ/ATL

crazykidd2k6 · Post #1 » by **crazykidd2k6** » Thu May 6, 2010 2:08 am

New Jersey Nets:
Outgoing:
Devin Harris
Yi Jianlian
Mav's 27 pick
Incoming:
Josh Smith

Los Angeles Lakers:
Outgoing:
Andrew Bynum
Incoming:
Devin Harris
Yi Jianlian
Mav's Pick

Atlanta Hawks
Outgoing:
Josh Smith
Incoming:
Andrew Bynum

Why for the Nets?
Having Both Brook and Josh Smith on the front will make the Nets' inside defense one of the best in the NBA.

Line up:
?Wall?/????/
Lee/CDR/
????/T-Will
Josh Smith/Humphries
Brook/????

Why for the Lakers?
They need a point guard badly. Devin Harris is a great is an amazing complimentary pointguard when you don't give him the responsibility to score. He will defend and have those consistent points. Also, I believe Yi can still be a good player I think he just needs a good coach to train him.

Line up:
Devin Harris/Fisher/Farmar
Kobe/Vujacic/Brown
Artest/Walton/Morrison
Odom/Yi/Powell
Gasol/Mbenga

Why for ATL:
They finally got a real center. They can finally move Horford to his natural position. Also get some post presence in their team.

Bibby/Jeff Teague
Johnson/Crawford/West
Williams/Evans
Horford/
Bynum/Pachulia/Collins/

Thoughts? Do you guys think its fair?

Jersey Generals · Post #2 » by **Jersey Generals** » Thu May 6, 2010 2:53 am

Ten thousand percent, yes, I would do it. I will drive Yi and Devin, and whatever prospect is drafted with the 27th wherever the hell they're going myself.

Though, I don't see the Lakers doing it, unless they could sign Haywood or something with the MLE.

demens · Post #3 » by **demens** » Thu May 6, 2010 2:55 am

I like it. For the Nets especially.

vincecarter4pres · Post #4 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Thu May 6, 2010 4:20 am

I don't really see LAL doing it, but I'm down from our end.

deviljets7 · Post #5 » by **deviljets7** » Thu May 6, 2010 5:26 am

Nets say yes and then duck the flying glass thrown in their direction (most likely from the Lakers).

crazykidd2k6 · Post #6 » by **crazykidd2k6** » Thu May 6, 2010 5:35 am

I can see the Lakers saying Yes for some reason just the fact they are also getting Yi. I see him doing really well in the Laker's system. All he really needs is confidence that he can do it once he gets that he will be a great player

vincecarter4pres · Post #7 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Thu May 6, 2010 5:57 am

A wise man once said, "All Yi needs is a brain transplant and he will be a great player.".

brook_11 · Post #8 » by **brook_11** » Thu May 6, 2010 3:55 pm

I would do it. But this trade only makes sense for us if we are getting John Wall. However, i dont see the LAL doing it, especially if they win the title. They will probably, then, look for a point guard via free agency.

Revolutionistt · Post #9 » by **Revolutionistt** » Thu May 6, 2010 6:38 pm

No way Lakers do this. They wouldnt even give up Bynum for Kidd why would they trade him for Harris and Yi?

demens · Post #10 » by **demens** » Thu May 6, 2010 8:06 pm

Revolutionistt wrote:No way Lakers do this. They wouldnt even give up Bynum for Kidd why would they trade him for Harris and Yi?

Because Harris > Kidd. Lakers have a stud PF/C signed on for the future, they have an old starting PG, need an upgrade. Not sure Devin, Yi plus pick would be enough, but that has nothing to do with Kidd.

Revolutionistt · Post #11 » by **Revolutionistt** » Fri May 7, 2010 11:35 am

demens wrote:
Because Harris > Kidd.

I saw that and stopped reading the rest of your post.

ChampionRed · Post #12 » by **ChampionRed** » Fri May 7, 2010 1:56 pm

No way Lakers do this. Plus Phil likes to have a PG who can shoot running the triangle...Harris can't shoot.

demens · Post #13 » by **demens** » Fri May 7, 2010 2:54 pm

Revolutionistt wrote:
demens wrote:
Because Harris > Kidd.

I saw that and stopped reading the rest of your post.

good for u :roll:

Revolutionistt · Post #14 » by **Revolutionistt** » Fri May 7, 2010 3:54 pm

demens wrote:
Revolutionistt wrote:
demens wrote:
Because Harris > Kidd.

I saw that and stopped reading the rest of your post.

good for u

Really are you even a Nets fan? Are you old enough to remember 2001-2007? Im being serious too. You ask ANYBODY who watches basketball theyll all tell you Kidd is superior to Harris. Theres no way you can tell me the Lakers would be more intrigued to move their young and highly productive center for Harris then they would for Kidd. No way.

Oh, AND Kobe was pushing for the Lakers to get Kidd and they still didnt do it. I cant imagine seeing Kobe telling the Lakers to "ship Bynums @$$ out" for Devin Harris and Yi.

SteveNets15 · Post #15 » by **SteveNets15** » Fri May 7, 2010 4:11 pm

Kidd > Harris.

Preludepunk27 · Post #16 » by **Preludepunk27** » Fri May 7, 2010 4:31 pm

Even if Jason Kidd couldn't shoot that well and he pouted a bunch the last season here...we would have won 20 games with him even at his age.

I love Devin, but lets face it...he doesn't elevate players around him.

Remember this too...if Jason Kidd was never traded to the Nets, we would have moved to Oklahoma City and there would still be a team in Seattle. I'm absolutely positive of that. He saved this franchise

demens · Post #17 » by **demens** » Fri May 7, 2010 8:10 pm

Revolutionistt wrote:
Really are you even a Nets fan? Are you old enough to remember 2001-2007? Im being serious too. You ask ANYBODY who watches basketball theyll all tell you Kidd is superior to Harris. Theres no way you can tell me the Lakers would be more intrigued to move their young and highly productive center for Harris then they would for Kidd. No way.

Oh, AND Kobe was pushing for the Lakers to get Kidd and they still didnt do it. I cant imagine seeing Kobe telling the Lakers to "ship Bynums @$$ out" for Devin Harris and Yi.

Stop being condescending and look at the calendar. If ANYBODY you ask tells you Kidd is still superior to Harris then they are as clueless as you are.

I've been a Net fan since 96 fyi.

Revolutionistt · Post #18 » by **Revolutionistt** » Fri May 7, 2010 8:39 pm

demens wrote:
Stop being condescending and look at the calendar. If ANYBODY you ask tells you Kidd is still superior to Harris then they are as clueless as you are.

I've been a Net fan since 96 fyi.

For one im not talking about today im talking about when the Nets were dangling Kidd for Bynum. And two, I still think there is a good amount of people that would rather have Kidd running the point over Harris. What has Harris done for the Nets since getting here that Kidd hasnt done? Other than the whole worst start in NBA history thing, I can come up with anything else. I like Harris and I think hes a good player, my whole point to this was that if the Lakers didnt give up Bynum for Kidd, they wouldnt give him up for Harris.

demens · Post #19 » by **demens** » Fri May 7, 2010 9:01 pm

Revolutionistt wrote:For one im not talking about today im talking about when the Nets were dangling Kidd for Bynum. And two, I still think there is a good amount of people that would rather have Kidd running the point over Harris. What has Harris done for the Nets since getting here that Kidd hasnt done? Other than the whole worst start in NBA history thing, I can come up with anything else. I like Harris and I think hes a good player, my whole point to this was that if the Lakers didnt give up Bynum for Kidd, they wouldnt give him up for Harris.

Mavs and Nets just dont compare. As for what time period you're talking about, the idea is current so i dont see how Kidd being a better player 2 years ago has anything to do with it.

The situations in both teams were totally different then they are now. For one, Bynum was looked at as someone who will be the dominant all-star big man to play along side of Kobe. While he is still very young and improving, his development hasn't exactly gone like the Lakers hoped for. If you look at his production its gone down across the board in everything aside from a measly 2 point per game scoring increase. Bynum 2 years ago had more value then Bynum today. In addition the Lakers have already added another dominant big man to play that role and gave him a 3 year $57 mil extension. Fisher is 35 years old! Lakers are set to be championship contenders for the next 3 seasons and i guarantee you, Fisher will not be the starting PG leading them. Thats not the situation they were in 2 years ago.

With all that, I still said i still made it clear that Devin, Yi and a pick might not be enough to get Bynum, but it is certainly a more realistic deal that the initial Kidd/Bynum proposal (even that was not a bad deal).

Revolutionistt · Post #20 » by **Revolutionistt** » Sat May 8, 2010 2:39 pm

demens wrote:
Mavs and Nets just dont compare. As for what time period you're talking about, the idea is current so i dont see how Kidd being a better player 2 years ago has anything to do with it.

The situations in both teams were totally different then they are now. For one, Bynum was looked at as someone who will be the dominant all-star big man to play along side of Kobe. While he is still very young and improving, his development hasn't exactly gone like the Lakers hoped for. If you look at his production its gone down across the board in everything aside from a measly 2 point per game scoring increase. Bynum 2 years ago had more value then Bynum today. In addition the Lakers have already added another dominant big man to play that role and gave him a 3 year $57 mil extension. Fisher is 35 years old! Lakers are set to be championship contenders for the next 3 seasons and i guarantee you, Fisher will not be the starting PG leading them. Thats not the situation they were in 2 years ago.

With all that, I still said i still made it clear that Devin, Yi and a pick might not be enough to get Bynum, but it is certainly a more realistic deal that the initial Kidd/Bynum proposal (even that was not a bad deal).

im not comparing the nets and mavs. this is my point:
2007 Kidd for Bynum and whatever else would have been included in the deal is much more appealing than
2010 Harris, Yi, 27th pick for Bynum
and I think majority of Nets fans will agree with that. if you were the lakers wouldnt you rather have a dominating pair of pf/c opposed to one with an ok pg?