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From GSW
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:44 pm
by gswhoop
Just an observation but as far as scoring and getting to the bucket Monta would be the closest you can get to wall. He may not have as great of a court vision as wall but they match up pretty well and Monta has been a proven 25+/5/5 kinda guy. Any thought if you guys would consider your pick and fillers?
Re: From GSW
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:47 pm
by Preludepunk27
I don't like Harris and Monta in the same backcourt to tell you the truth, but you have a point.
With that said, it's not worth #3.
I'm also curious as to how Monta would play in something other than a Don Nelson offense.
I'd rather explore other options before entertaining something like this, but our package would have to be something like Devin/Yi/Fillers...not #3.
Re: From GSW
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:48 pm
by Jersey Generals
For Ellis? No. But you can surely have the number 3 for Curry.
Re: From GSW
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:50 pm
by Preludepunk27
Devin/#3 For Curry/#6?
May sound kinda nutty, but this I think gives us the room for 2 max deals...too bad it doesn't work in the trade checker lol.
I'm gonna work out a 3 team deal with GSW/Ind/NJN or GSW/Mem/NJN where we end up with Curry and 2 lotto picks lol. I'm so awesome today.
Re: From GSW
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:28 pm
by vincecarter4pres
Ellis isn't worth anywhere close to the #3 and I never want him on my team anyway.
His style isn't conducive to winning unless he is a big minute 6xth man.
Re: From GSW
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:37 pm
by crazykidd2k6
I want Stephen Curry
Re: From GSW
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:31 pm
by demens
I was one of Stephs biggest fans coming out of college but i dont want him on the Nets. Undersized for SG and questionable for a PG. I'll stick with Harris. Also Harris and Ellis is a no go, no discussion. Trading 1 for the other is also a no go, again, out of the 3 Harris is actually the best PG so that speaks for itself. We're not getting Wall so please get over the idea that Harris is tradable.
Now, i am very intrigued by doing business with GS.
The point would be to swap picks. I think its no secret GS want and NEED Cousins bad. I'd be very happy picking Aminu with the 6th pick or Wes Johnson in the worst case scenario.
The main guys i'd be interested in GS are
1) Randolph. He would require we give up a nice peace as well...ehhh any interest in Yi on that end maybe?
2) Morrow. By himself clearly not enough for us to pull off the swap.
To lesser extent i like Azabuke, CJ Watson and Brandon Wright.
So how about this:
#3, CDR for #6 Morrow, Azabuke, Watson. (all exipre in a year so no cap implications)
This deal does a bunch of things for NJ.
1)We fill out the roster with quality back-ups
2)It add 3 great/very good shooters to the team
3)It allows us to get a quality PF FA as planned (*if keeping the 3rd pick the Nets MUST abandon this plan)
4)We draft Aminu who i like more then anyone other then Wall or Turner.
Devin/CJ Watson (quality back-up)
Lee/Morrow (quality shooter)
Azibuke (defender/shooter/temp)/Aminu (future SF)
Lee(or Boozer)/Humph
Lopez/Yi
+2 draft picks.
Re: From GSW
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:44 pm
by vincecarter4pres
Hell no to that pick swap trade with GSW. Randolph is skinny, injury prone and in my opinion will never be much of a player.
Curry is a very good point guard BTW, probably already better then Harris.
Re: From GSW
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:45 pm
by vincecarter4pres
BTW, Morrow is a RFA, he is not under contract.
Re: From GSW
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:40 pm
by gswhoop
I believe that I speak for most of the GSW fans that curry is untouchable unless it's a deal involving an allstar. We value Ellis just a little above Harris but Curry's upside is too high and we need him to be the cornerstone of the franchise.
I do like the trade involving #3, CDR for #6 Morrow, Azabuke, Watson.
Morrow and Buike can be legit starters in the right system but have never really gotten any opportunity with Monta and Curry on the floor 35+ minutes a game.
Watson is a solid backup and has proven he can score.
But I'm surprised that there is no real interest in Monta as scoring is definitely something that you guys need.
Re: From GSW
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:46 pm
by vincecarter4pres
justin06 wrote:I do like the trade involving #3, CDR for #6 Morrow, Azabuke, Watson.
Morrow and Buike can be legit starters in the right system but have never really gotten any opportunity with Monta and Curry on the floor 35+ minutes a game.
Watson is a solid backup and has proven he can score.
I'm sure you like this trade, it's horrid for NJ and there isn't a snowball chance in hell our FO would consider it.
Sorry for being a little harsh, I know you didn't come up with the idea, but it's really terrible.
BTW, its a mooot point anyway, Buike and Morrow can't be traded, one has a player option the other is a restricted free agent, so the idea is D.O.A.
Re: From GSW
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:48 pm
by demens
justin06 wrote:But I'm surprised that there is no real interest in Monta as scoring is definitely something that you guys need.
We do need scoring but not from that position. Harris is good enough scorer at the PG and Lee is a defensive minded player that is very needed on a winning team. We need scoring at the SF position most of all.
Is Morrow a RFA btw?
2 sites have him under contract 1 does not.
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/golden_state.htmhttp://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9181http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... rriors.jsp
Re: From GSW
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:56 pm
by gswhoop
Yes, morrow is a RFA, right now warriors plan on matching him up to the mid level.
Re: From GSW
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:59 pm
by vincecarter4pres
Always trust Sham, Sham da man.
Re: From GSW
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:10 am
by demens
i like that site. It looks amateurish but it has more info then the others. Team salaries and what contract each player signed. Have not seen a site that has that info for everyone before.
Re: From GSW
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:44 am
by gswhoop
vincecarter4pres wrote:Hell no to that pick swap trade with GSW. Randolph is skinny, injury prone and in my opinion will never be much of a player.
Curry is a very good point guard BTW, probably already better then Harris.
True AR may be injury prone due to his high wire play but once he settles down you'll be eating your words. Everyone was on his jock before the injury and i know right now is his lowest stock.
Just fyi here's his last stat when he played you guys
A. Randolph 20:23min 4-7fg 0-0 3-3ft +15 5 9rb 4ast 0 1st 3blk 0 3blks 11pts
Re: From GSW
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 1:33 am
by Jersey Generals
demens wrote:i like that site. It looks amateurish but it has more info then the others. Team salaries and what contract each player signed. Have not seen a site that has that info for everyone before.
If you think its amateurish, go complain to Sham. He's the mod in the Bulls forum.
Re: From GSW
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 1:47 am
by SpeedyG
justin06 wrote:Just an observation but as far as scoring and getting to the bucket Monta would be the closest you can get to wall. He may not have as great of a court vision as wall but they match up pretty well and Monta has been a proven 25+/5/5 kinda guy. Any thought if you guys would consider your pick and fillers?
That kind of defeats the purpose. Part of what I like in Wall is that, yes, he has the ability to blow by anyone in front of him. But it's that court vision and the ability (and willingness to make the right pass) is what will make him special if he lives up to his potential.
We already have one scoring PG with tunnel-vision...we don't need another.
Re: From GSW
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 2:21 am
by demens
Jersey Generals wrote:demens wrote:i like that site. It looks amateurish but it has more info then the others. Team salaries and what contract each player signed. Have not seen a site that has that info for everyone before.
If you think its amateurish, go complain to Sham. He's the mod in the Bulls forum.
Just the design. I like the content, nothing to complain about.
Re: From GSW
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 2:51 am
by GswSucks4Ever
Ellis, Stephen Curry, Anthony Morrow are all GREAT pieces to surround Lebron James with