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Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:32 pm
by bmyers3317
On their latest Mock Draft and via their twitter page. He says Avery Johnson wants someone who can contribute right away and says the Nets will address the power forward position in free agency.
Re: Draft Express has New Jersey taking W. Johnson
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:44 pm
by bmyers3317
Espn Has it now
Ford has spoken to more sources on Monday and has revised his mock draft to include Johnson at No. 3. His commentary on the switch from Favors to Johnson is attached to the bottom of this post.
"We've had Derrick Favors here for months. But after his workout for the Nets on Monday, Favors has fallen behind Johnson on their board, according to sources close to the situation. The Nets have needs at both the 3 and the 4 and feel they'll be able to land an elite big man, like Carlos Boozer or Amare Stoudemire, through free agency. Meanwhile, they believe Johnson can come in and immediately start at the 3 for them."
Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:04 pm
by God Squad
yeah i was reading this on other boards. Would you consider this good or bad news? I'm not very high on Wes Johnson. I would rather your team draft Favors. But I understand they want someone to help right away.
Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:09 pm
by NJ To BK
JUST POSTED THIS TWO HOURS AGO AND THIS STORY BREAKSSS WOWW WHOSS THE REALGMERR NOW??
This is what I posted at 12:24, God listens to me ya know?
I actually still pray for turner to drop.. Think about it favors is a gamble because of his "raw" potential and the really the fact that he hasnt proven anything in college, and cousins is a gamble because of his character problems and his lack of commitment to his body. I would rather draft Turner or a Wes Johnson and SIGN A PF such as an already polished David Lee or Carlos Boozer. Evan Turner is a proven talent with high character this kid is stud waiting to happen. Wes Johnson can also turn into something special with the right direction.
Starting Line Up
Harris
Joe Johnson or Rudy Gay
Wes Johnson or Turner
David Lee Or Carlos Boozer
Brook Lopez
Bench
Lee, Yi, Twill and fillers
Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:10 pm
by The J Rocka
I mean it makes the most sense. You guys got money to spend, go out and get Amare, Lee, or Boozer instead.
Lopez
Lee
W. Johnson
Lee
Harris
Or can upgrade at SG and make a run at Joe Johnson.
Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:11 pm
by Preludepunk27
It's a smoke screen because Minny desperately wants a wing player and Thorn is just seeing if he can still get the guy he wants while clearing cap room or gaining an asset.
I'm not high on Johnson, but I'm not opposed to him. I just don't think we'd actually draft him at #3.
Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:13 pm
by jzmagik
Preludepunk27 wrote:It's a smoke screen because Minny desperately wants a wing player and Thorn is just seeing if he can still get the guy he wants while clearing cap room or gaining an asset.
I'm not high on Johnson, but I'm not opposed to him. I just don't think we'd actually draft him at #3.
I thought it was a smokescreen as well. It's stupid to draft Wes Johnson unless we can get a border-line allstar in a trade from someone else who wants to move up.
I'm praying we get Derrick Favors
Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:18 pm
by vincecarter4pres
I think it's a smoke screen as well, but if it's true I will drop kick puppies till the sun comes out.
Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:29 pm
by HotShots
Thorn is trying to get Ricky Rubio. Minnesota really wants Wess. We put word out there we are going to take him and maybe Minnesota will make a deal. Swap picks plus rights to Rubio. So we still get Favors and Rubio.
Analysis: The Timberwolves will be sick to their stomachs if this scenario takes place. The two players they covet are Turner and Johnson. If the Sixers and Nets take them, the Wolves would be left to consider two bigs they aren't entirely comfortable with.
GM David Kahn ripped Favors after his workout in Minnesota, calling him out of shape and saying he wasn't ready to play in the league. And the Wolves haven't even had Cousins in for a workout because he doesn't want to play in Minnesota. Plus, the team has its own concerns about Cousins that probably would keep it from drafting him.
Other players available include Greg Monroe and Al-Farouq Aminu, but I don't see either going this high. This development may push the Wolves to try harder to trade up or out.
Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:43 pm
by HotShots
Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:46 pm
by funkatron101
Don't believe the hype. Johnson at #4 has been considered a reach for weeks. Kahn like Favors, that talk is a smokescreen. Prior to the workout he was praising Favors to no end. Ronzone also said that it's stupid to judge based on one workout. They have been scouting these guys all year and these workouts are just for the coaches to get a better look at them. Kahn also isn't giving up Rubio. IMO, if the Nets are trying to swindle the Wolves, it's not going to happen.
Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:53 pm
by AQuintus
HotShots wrote:Thorn is trying to get Ricky Rubio. Minnesota really wants Wess. We put word out there we are going to take him and maybe Minnesota will make a deal. Swap picks plus rights to Rubio. So we still get Favors and Rubio.
Analysis: The Timberwolves will be sick to their stomachs if this scenario takes place. The two players they covet are Turner and Johnson. If the Sixers and Nets take them, the Wolves would be left to consider two bigs they aren't entirely comfortable with.
GM David Kahn ripped Favors after his workout in Minnesota, calling him out of shape and saying he wasn't ready to play in the league. And the Wolves haven't even had Cousins in for a workout because he doesn't want to play in Minnesota. Plus, the team has its own concerns about Cousins that probably would keep it from drafting him.
Other players available include Greg Monroe and Al-Farouq Aminu, but I don't see either going this high. This development may push the Wolves to try harder to trade up or out.
I wouldn't put too much stock in Woj's article. He's a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) that seems to have some kind of personal vendetta against Kahns/Minnesota.
Based on insider information, it's been speculated for a while now that Favors is the guy Minnesota most wants from this draft. If he drops to 4, Minnesota will be laughing all the way to the bank. Don't expect for any trades to go down between NJ and Minny if NJ takes Wes Johnson (especially not any involving Rubio).
Edit:
Also, 2 more things. Rubio + 4 for 3 is an incredibly terrible deal for Minnesota. It would be by far the most expensive 1 pick trade up in NBA history. And 2, getting Johnson is no where near as big a priority as Woj is making it seem. Minnesota has the option of overpaying Gay (as mentioned), getting a wing with their other draft picks, or trading Jefferson or Love for a wing.
Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:03 pm
by Foye
Sorry guys but I will LMAO out if New Jersey takes WJ over Favors.
I'm not very high on WJ so that would likely be my best case scenario of the draft if NJ takes Johnson and we just decline to trade Favors for Johnson.

Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:04 pm
by Frank Lucas
It make sense that the Nets would look at Wes Johnson because they can land an ALL STAR Power Forward via free agency. They still can draft Johnson and work out a trade after the draft. I guess my point is they Nets would be smart to draft Wes Johnson over Favors. I've watched Favors a lot and his game is ok. I think he has bust writen all over him.
Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:17 pm
by richboy
Your not really reaching for the stars if you take WJ as high as 3. He has very little shot at ever being a top 5 SF. Really it might be difficult for him to crack the top 10. Cousins and Favors have much higher upsides. Cousins is better than WJ as a freshman.
Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:42 pm
by One Love
Favois > Johnson all day long... Not trying to troll but I like your core of Harris, Brook & Lee (I feel he is solid) therefore keep an eye on Jersey... Good luck at the draft...
Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:47 pm
by AQuintus
One Love wrote:Favois > Johnson all day long... Not trying to troll but I like your core of Harris, Brook & Lee (I feel he is solid) therefore keep an eye on Jersey... Good luck at the draft...
I think it really comes down to what the Nets expect to do in Free Agency.
Favors is > Johnson, but Amare + Johnson might be > Favors + Gay.
Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:14 pm
by MNRunLeft
Johnson will be a very good player if the talent around him is good. He may not be a #1 or #2 option but he can be an All Star in the mold of Marion and Prince who weren't superstars but were key parts to very good teams. If NJ wants to win right away he's probably the better pick because Favors will take some time to develop, though in 2 or 3 years he could turn into a true superstar.
Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:19 pm
by SpeedyG
Frank Lucas wrote:It make sense that the Nets would look at Wes Johnson because they can land an ALL STAR Power Forward via free agency. They still can draft Johnson and work out a trade after the draft. I guess my point is they Nets would be smart to draft Wes Johnson over Favors. I've watched Favors a lot and his game is ok. I think he has bust writen all over him.
Ah yes if only Free-agency came before the draft.
Re: Dx/espn have New Jersey taking W. Johnson
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:42 pm
by hoopsmaster546
The Nets will not take Johnson. I know he had an individual workout with the team, but this pick is between Favors and Cousins. There is no guarantee that we will sign Amare, Lee, or Boozer, because free agency is unpredictable. I think we should pick the best player available for us, needing a good power forward, because Yi has been terrible. The Nets will pick either Favors or Cousins on Thursday. I'm praying its Cousins. He will bring a toughness, power, and size to the team and will complement Lopez's game. He is the best player available after Wall and Turner.