The Marshon Brooks Thread

[Lamak]

Marshon Brooks - Selected with the 25th pick by the Celtics and traded to us for the the 27th overall pick (JaJuan Johnson) and a future 2nd round pick.



This guy is gonna has such high potential to be a great player and scorer. I was very high on him and happy we drafted him. All videos and information on him shall go in here.

Post Draft Interview
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6DCfodY_Bw[/youtube]

52 Points vs Notre Dame
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34V-s1byysU[/youtube]

[vincecarter4pres]

We'll see. Really wanted Jordan Hamilton and would have also rather had Tyler Honeycutt.

[Lamak]

I would have liked Hamilton but I think Brooks can become the SG we need to take pressure off Brook in the post and take the defense off Deron with his ability to drive and create his own shot. I'm also happy we got him because Chicago, New York, and Boston fans were all high on him.

[N Ireland Nets]

I was happy enough with the trade but the more I read about him the more i think Brooks and D Will as our starting guards of the future with Morrow of the bench could be a great fit.

The things ive been reading about him are that he completely destroyed everyone he came up against in the work outs. For instance in the 2vs2 drills at Indiana he ripped Singleton apart who was regarded as the best defender in the draft. Basically Brooks can create his own shot very well and offensively will bring it. Im looking forward to seeing how Avery improves his defence, I mean he has the physical body to be a good defender being 6'5" tall and with like a 7ft wingspan.

All in all I think this could end being an absolute steal or just a solid scorer for our 2nd unit so basically a win win for a late 1st round pick. Can't wait to see the kid in action but who knows we might not see him till Brooklyn :p

[SpeedyG]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mq-JMf1szk[/youtube]

Mama, there goes that man!

[Lamak]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mq-JMf1szk[/youtube]

Mama, there goes that man!

That cross at 28 seconds is sexy.

[N Ireland Nets]

We'll see. Really wanted Jordan Hamilton and would have also rather had Tyler Honeycutt.

I respectfully disagree, I didn't see the point in brining in Hamilton because for me he really isn't that different from Damion James and the same can be said for Honeycutt. Obviously Hamilton is a better player than Honeycutt but I don't really see either as an upgrade on James who I think will be a good player.

Looking at our draft I think we must be looking to bring in AK47 or another fa signing because we needed upgrades on the wing and the free agent options at SF are better in my eyes than the SG's.

We needed offense badly on the team and with Brooks we get that now, just the way it seems to me.

[N Ireland Nets]

Heres a video of a workout for the pacers he did, obviously not a great angle but decent to have a look at:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51H6Li1Nb3o[/youtube]

[vincecarter4pres]

James is a power forward convert.

Hamilton is a pure small forward through and through, he's a water jump shooter, good off the ball, but he can handle it and create his own shot and is a solid slasher as well.

Hamilton has all the makings of a Granger type player, I would say that or prime Rashard Lewis is his ceiling, some Josh Howard mixed in there.

Brooks is a ball stopping chucker who's team built an offense around him so he could pad his stats, one of the fastest paced offenses in the country no less.

He is a blackhole who is going to have to work extremely hard to dramatically change his style of ball 180 to fit in with Deron and Brook, hell just the NBA in general.

He was efficient, but still a chucker. Listen, Jordan Crawford was a very efficient college player on a bad team that was much better then Brooks and he was horrid in the NBA.

His athleticism is highly overrated and he's a poor defender even if he has the tools.

Speedy says a Jamal Crawford type at 25 was great value and a great player to have.

Yes it's great value, no its' not a great player to have.

Are people forgetting the first 9 years of Crawford's career?!

Jamal's style doesn't support winning.

Even on Atlanta the dude's job is to chuck and he still kills any offensive flow if his jump shot isn't falling at a ridiculous rate.

Brooks team was 15 and 17.

Brooks senior year was like Tyreke Evans NBA rookie year.

Big shiny sexy stats on paper, terrible impact in real life.

If Hamilton and Honeycutt were gone I would have liked the pick, but I absolutely loathe it with those two still out there.

His ceiling is probably Kendall Gill, doubt he's that type of defender or team player though.

People keep saying oh, Nick Young, like that's a freaking good thing!

Nick Young sucks fat monkey nuts! He isn't a good player!

****ing ****!

Make me eat my words, please!

[vincecarter4pres]

Heres a video of a workout for the pacers he did, obviously not a great angle but decent to have a look at:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51H6Li1Nb3o[/youtube]

I have seen Marshon play in full games more then enough, I don't need to watch empty gym youtube clips at bad angles and workout videos of him shooting with his slow awkward style of handle and approach to know what he looks like.

I don't hate him as a player, I've said he was an interesting prospect to an extent in the past, but I hate his current style and doubt he can change it enough to be a really good player.

At this late a pick I wouldn't be bitching so much if we didn't pass up on both Jordan Hamilton and Tyler Honeycutt.

[SpeedyG]

VC, you're on ignore until you stop raining on everyone's parade on Marshon =D

[vincecarter4pres]

I'm sorry, I'm pretty annoyed though. I'll stop, there's really nothing else I can say except to keep beating a dead horse after those two posts.

That is my view on him. I also really loved both Hamilton and Honeycutt.

[SpeedyG]

It's cool man. HOnestly, I haven't seen him much so I'm really basing off my opinion on him from youtube clips and such.

You think you're pissed? You should have seen me when the Jaguars traded up in 2008 to select Derrick Harvey.

[vincecarter4pres]

I'll say this much and it's obvious. The kid is a really talented scorer, from all over the court.

[Lamak]

Haha. VC you been going on Brooks. I understand you're doubts though, but I know for sure he's an upgrade to SG spot and he has high potential. Sure he does move kinda slow but his game reminds me of OJ Mayo/John Salmons/Jamal Crawford with a Kobe swag . Here's hoping he stops his blackhole habits and becomes a productive player on our team.

[vincecarter4pres]

Listen, more then anything I want to look like a complete idiot here.

Or at least look a little silly and he does what I said and takes his big time abilities and changes his actual approach and style and becomes a really solid player.

Yeah I'm going in.

It's probably unfair. He hasn't played a lick of NBA ball yet and won't even have a summer league to play in.

It's really unfair specifically in regard to me roasting him, cause I wouldn't be going off on him so much if Hamilton and Honeycutt weren't still on the board.

[crazykidd2k6]

At first I didn't like him but after watching a bunch of his highlights videos, I'm starting to change my mind. He is a very smart and confident player. He knows the right spacing and good angles to create of the dribble. Which is why he dribbles slow to fast. He also has an extraordinary pull up which will help him a lot in the NBA. I think he'll be a good scorer in the NBA level. I do think he needs to be a bit more of an aggressive dribbler. i think that can be fix once he sees the change of bigger skill level.

I still think this is more of a reason to move morrow to a bench though and get fundamental slashers as a starter.

[Lamak]

So what if he averages 16ppg/4rpg/2apg/1spg? Would that make you eat crow?

[vincecarter4pres]

As long as he does it in the flow of the offense and has a positive impact.

That's the thing with this kid, I think he'll put up some decent numbers, probably even double digit scoring as early as next season, I just don't think he'll have much of a positive impact and I think he's going to be a ball stopper in a few years when he's got more confidence and respect as a vet and he's no longer the rookie who has to sit back and play the wall.

A lot of awful to mediocre players put up nice numbers.

Numbers aren't the end all be all.

[crazykidd2k6]

^^^ 100% agree with you I see him putting up numbers but it looks like he puts offense out of sync with his really slow style.