ImageImageImageImageImage

Tyson Chandler

Moderators: Rich Rane, NyCeEvO

HotrodBeaubois
Veteran
Posts: 2,804
And1: 196
Joined: Jun 14, 2011
 

Tyson Chandler 

Post#1 » by HotrodBeaubois » Tue Aug 9, 2011 3:51 pm

Would you do a sign and trade Chandler for Lopez?
ecuhus1981
RealGM
Posts: 16,908
And1: 1,574
Joined: Jun 19, 2007
       

Re: Tyson Chandler 

Post#2 » by ecuhus1981 » Tue Aug 9, 2011 4:19 pm

No. We might try to sign him outright, though, to team with Brook.
Some people really have a way with words. Other people... not... have... way.
-- Steve Martin
User avatar
vincecarter4pres
RealGM
Posts: 51,064
And1: 3,840
Joined: May 30, 2005
Location: New Jeruz
Contact:
     

Re: Tyson Chandler 

Post#3 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Aug 9, 2011 4:29 pm

:rofl2:

Wowsers!
Image
Rich Rane wrote:I think we're all missing the point here. vc4pres needs to stop watching games.
User avatar
NyCeEvO
Forum Mod - Nets
Forum Mod - Nets
Posts: 22,057
And1: 6,082
Joined: Jul 14, 2010

Re: Tyson Chandler 

Post#4 » by NyCeEvO » Tue Aug 9, 2011 4:51 pm

Chandler is trying to get paid this year.
Lopez will get paid next offseason.

Chandler is 29.
Lopez is 23.

Deron would want to play with more offensive weapons, not less.
hassan_BADams
Banned User
Posts: 15
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 19, 2011

Re: Tyson Chandler 

Post#5 » by hassan_BADams » Tue Aug 9, 2011 5:18 pm

Just to expound upon why everyone is laughing like Travis Outlaw just airballed a dunk, Tyson Chandler will be an unrestricted free agent and the Nets will have room under the salary cap whenever the offseason begins. The Nets have no incentive to sign and trade for him.
User avatar
vincecarter4pres
RealGM
Posts: 51,064
And1: 3,840
Joined: May 30, 2005
Location: New Jeruz
Contact:
     

Re: Tyson Chandler 

Post#6 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Aug 9, 2011 6:02 pm

hassan_BADams wrote:Just to expound upon why everyone is laughing like Travis Outlaw just airballed a dunk, Tyson Chandler will be an unrestricted free agent and the Nets will have room under the salary cap whenever the offseason begins. The Nets have no incentive to sign and trade for him.

Boom dizzle.
Image
Rich Rane wrote:I think we're all missing the point here. vc4pres needs to stop watching games.
HotrodBeaubois
Veteran
Posts: 2,804
And1: 196
Joined: Jun 14, 2011
 

Re: Tyson Chandler 

Post#7 » by HotrodBeaubois » Tue Aug 9, 2011 6:11 pm

What about Chandler and 2012 1st Rd pick for Lopez and Outlaw?
User avatar
treiz
RealGM
Posts: 11,984
And1: 564
Joined: Aug 17, 2005
Location: London, England
       

Re: Tyson Chandler 

Post#8 » by treiz » Tue Aug 9, 2011 6:41 pm

HotrodBeaubois wrote:What about Chandler and 2012 1st Rd pick for Lopez and Outlaw?


Why would we do this we can sign him outright? This trade is basically a 1st round pick for Lopez and Outlaw
User avatar
vincecarter4pres
RealGM
Posts: 51,064
And1: 3,840
Joined: May 30, 2005
Location: New Jeruz
Contact:
     

Re: Tyson Chandler 

Post#9 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Aug 9, 2011 6:43 pm

HotrodBeaubois wrote:What about Chandler and 2012 1st Rd pick for Lopez and Outlaw?

I think something like this would depend on two very important details.

A) Will the new CBA give us a true amnesty to get rid of Outlaw?

If so, this is an easy and instant no.

B) What big in free agency can we definitely get and what would they cost?


More or less, this still looks like an easy no.

The bottom line is we have the cap to outright sign Chandler and then if we really wanted to trade Lopez we could, whether attached to Outlaw or not for huge additional value, whether for a guaranteed lotto pick or a top player or young prospect who will be on a rookie deal in 2012.
Image
Rich Rane wrote:I think we're all missing the point here. vc4pres needs to stop watching games.
HotrodBeaubois
Veteran
Posts: 2,804
And1: 196
Joined: Jun 14, 2011
 

Re: Tyson Chandler 

Post#10 » by HotrodBeaubois » Tue Aug 9, 2011 7:03 pm

Ok thanks for your input. Anyway I'm hoping the CBA allows the Mavs to re-sign Chandler and then next year when Kidd and Terry's $20,000,000 come off the books that Deron will want to come home to Dallas .
User avatar
KMartsCrew
Junior
Posts: 368
And1: 226
Joined: Jul 23, 2011
 

Re: Tyson Chandler 

Post#11 » by KMartsCrew » Tue Aug 9, 2011 7:18 pm

Mavs won't have the cap space to afford a max (let alone if they re-sign Chandler) and Deron would have little reason to go to Dallas anyway.
HotrodBeaubois
Veteran
Posts: 2,804
And1: 196
Joined: Jun 14, 2011
 

Re: Tyson Chandler 

Post#12 » by HotrodBeaubois » Tue Aug 9, 2011 7:32 pm

andresb wrote:Mavs won't have the cap space to afford a max (let alone if they re-sign Chandler) and Deron would have little reason to go to Dallas anyway.

Considering he's from The Colony (Dallas suburb) and has a home here. And could possibly win a few championships with Dirk and Chandler. I would think that would be reason enough.
User avatar
KMartsCrew
Junior
Posts: 368
And1: 226
Joined: Jul 23, 2011
 

Re: Tyson Chandler 

Post#13 » by KMartsCrew » Tue Aug 9, 2011 7:34 pm

He is from West Virginia, even tho he grew up in Texas.

And no, he would not have a chance to win a few titles in Dallas if he signed there in 2012, Dirk would be 35 come playoff time in his first season there. Sorry, no young superstar is gonna sign a long term deal there to play with those old guys.

And again, Mavs won't have the cap space to be able to offer a max.
HotrodBeaubois
Veteran
Posts: 2,804
And1: 196
Joined: Jun 14, 2011
 

Re: Tyson Chandler 

Post#14 » by HotrodBeaubois » Tue Aug 9, 2011 8:47 pm

andresb wrote:He is from West Virginia, even tho he grew up in Texas.

And no, he would not have a chance to win a few titles in Dallas if he signed there in 2012, Dirk would be 35 come playoff time in his first season there. Sorry, no young superstar is gonna sign a long term deal there to play with those old guys.

And again, Mavs won't have the cap space to be able to offer a max.


First people don't go around and say I'm from Virginia but I grew in Texas. They say I'm from Texas ( the place where I went to elementary, jr High and high school)

Do you really think Dirks play is going to drop off that much over the next 3 years? If so you are wrong and after 3 years Dirks $22,000,000 and Marions $9,000,000 comes off the cap . So they will have some money to retool with.

Maybe thats why Dallas hasn't signed Chandler yet. If the do not sign Chandler they will be at $45,000,000 for the 2012 summer it sure is a coincidence that the year That Kidd and Terry expire Deron will be a free-agent.

And who knows maybe he wants to come and be the Star of Dallas.
User avatar
vincecarter4pres
RealGM
Posts: 51,064
And1: 3,840
Joined: May 30, 2005
Location: New Jeruz
Contact:
     

Re: Tyson Chandler 

Post#15 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Aug 9, 2011 8:52 pm

HotrodBeaubois wrote:Do you really think Dirks play is going to drop off that much over the next 3 years?

Yes. He's getting old. No one beats father time. Not even Jordan.

If so you are wrong

Oh thanks. Good to know. Wasn't a loaded question either...

and after 3 years Dirks $22,000,000 and Marions $9,000,000 comes off the cap . So they will have some money to retool with.

That's great. So from now til then, they can't sign or trade for anyone else of long term worth or value in order to preserve that cap, so they have to go with a skeleton crew around Dirk and himself.

Then, other great players are going to have to happen to be UFA's and desire to move to Dallas to play with an almost empty roster except a 32 year old Deron Williams coming up on the end of his contract.
Image
Rich Rane wrote:I think we're all missing the point here. vc4pres needs to stop watching games.
User avatar
NyCeEvO
Forum Mod - Nets
Forum Mod - Nets
Posts: 22,057
And1: 6,082
Joined: Jul 14, 2010

Re: Tyson Chandler 

Post#16 » by NyCeEvO » Tue Aug 9, 2011 8:55 pm

HotrodBeaubois wrote:
andresb wrote:He is from West Virginia, even tho he grew up in Texas.

And no, he would not have a chance to win a few titles in Dallas if he signed there in 2012, Dirk would be 35 come playoff time in his first season there. Sorry, no young superstar is gonna sign a long term deal there to play with those old guys.

And again, Mavs won't have the cap space to be able to offer a max.


First people don't go around and say I'm from Virginia but I grew in Texas. They say I'm from Texas ( the place where I went to elementary, jr High and high school)
Have you ever heard of a player named Carmelo Anthony? Born in Brooklyn, raised in Baltimore.

Image

That is one of the billboards Melo has in NYC, this being on 34th Street. Um...so...yeah.
Do you really think Dirks play is going to drop off that much over the next 3 years? If so you are wrong and after 3 years Dirks $22,000,000 and Marions $9,000,000 comes off the cap . So they will have some money to retool with.

This isn't the NBA2K series. You can't just pull of deals and re-tool contenders. If it was that easy, the Lakers would do it right now. Don't put the cart before the horse. Be glad that you have a championship. A lot can happy in one year, let alone 3 more.
User avatar
KMartsCrew
Junior
Posts: 368
And1: 226
Joined: Jul 23, 2011
 

Re: Tyson Chandler 

Post#17 » by KMartsCrew » Tue Aug 9, 2011 8:58 pm

Again, this is irrelevant since they will not have enough cap room to sign someone who commands the max, but anyway Dirk at 35 is not going to be a difference maker nor is he going to attract stars at that age. You just don't sign a long term deal knowing the best players you'd be pairing with would have to be replaced in a year or two (and without knowing if the team will succesfully replace them come the time), it is just not something attractive. It's all pie in the sky. No one is gonna sign a 5 year-deal there without knowing they will be able to get the players to compete during the entire duration of said contract. A 35 year old Dirk doesn't qualify, sorry to tell you.
User avatar
NyCeEvO
Forum Mod - Nets
Forum Mod - Nets
Posts: 22,057
And1: 6,082
Joined: Jul 14, 2010

Re: Tyson Chandler 

Post#18 » by NyCeEvO » Tue Aug 9, 2011 9:05 pm

andresb wrote:Again, this is irrelevant since they will not have enough cap room to sign someone who commands the max, but anyway Dirk at 35 is not going to be a difference maker nor is he going to attract stars at that age. You just don't sign a long term deal knowing the best players you'd be pairing with would have to be replaced in a year or two (and without knowing if the team will succesfully replace them come the time), it is just not something attractive. It's all pie in the sky. No one is gonna sign a 5 year-deal there without knowing they will be able to get the players to compete during the entire duration of said contract. A 35 year old Dirk doesn't qualify, sorry to tell you.

It's ok...he's got homer vision. 8-)
HotrodBeaubois
Veteran
Posts: 2,804
And1: 196
Joined: Jun 14, 2011
 

Re: Tyson Chandler 

Post#19 » by HotrodBeaubois » Tue Aug 9, 2011 9:05 pm

Well enjoy Williams while you can . Because he will be gone next summer!!
HotrodBeaubois
Veteran
Posts: 2,804
And1: 196
Joined: Jun 14, 2011
 

Re: Tyson Chandler 

Post#20 » by HotrodBeaubois » Tue Aug 9, 2011 9:09 pm

How many of you thought Kidd would still be playing at this level at 38? So to say that Dirk won't be good in 3 years after the way he played in this years playoffs is just wrong!!

Return to Brooklyn Nets