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Hopefully you know what I mean.

With all the permutations would you prefer they hold off and get him
As a FA. Knowing that crazy things can happen and the temperamental star can change his minanything any moment.

Or do you say forget that. No farting around give up all of our assets and get the Deron/Dwight era started now. No questions asked. Absorbed Hedo and all.

I would need to talk with Fegan and really get a great vibe from him to hold off, or to even attempt hard ball with Orlando.

King will pull the trigger on any deal as it ensures his job security for years


Every time I see wojanowski in my timeline I'm hoping it's goin down. But man can they do Some sexy stuff if it's done via FA

Of course I'd be thrilled, id be ecstatic at pairing two top 10 players on the Nets on the two most important positions on the court.

BUT obviously the best case for us is signing him as a free agent and would make us instantly one of the favourites with a very good line up and picks available. But if you can get Howard you get him, I do think they way Howard is acting that Orlando could get low balled now. I'd look to try to get Howard in a trade without Hedo now because we do have some leverage with Howard wanting to join us and also the threat of us have the cap to aign him as a FA.

I still am sure Billy King would still offer our roster up to get Howard with Williams and that includes Brooks & loads of picks. I dont have faith that King can get Howard for anything less than selling our souls by giving up every single asset

Yea but he hasn't exactly written off LAL. Do we still need to beat their offer.

Losing the assets would suck, but if somehow they didn't have to take On Hedo they should have $8M-$12M after Dwight/deron

I agree with Ireland.

Would rather he comes here by FA and we keep Brook, Brooks and add a small forward with some of our assets and keep some smaller assets and expiring contracts for future flexibility.

That said, of course I would be elated if we got him at all.


If I'm Billy at this point though, my one big condition is I'm not taking any bad salary back at all.

No Hedo. No Duhon. No Q Rick. No J Rich.

And they're taking Petro as part of the salary filler.


If I am taking Hedo, I want Ryan Anderson coming back, or I want to keep picks.


Also, I'm not giving up Brooks.

Basically they get Brook Lopez, a plethora of picks, Petro and expirings for Dwight.


It might seem unrealistic, but Orlando ownership really backed themselves into a corner here.

Otis was ready to land them a huge package and they panicked and pulled out.

I know we hear all this complete bull **** that Dwight will go here and there, but it's Carmelo or Lebron James all over again.

He gets every single last thing he wants if he gets Brooklyn outside the warm weather.

He wants to come here. He's using other teams to get leverage and to divert attention away from the selfish reality of his demands, which quite honestly I'm fine with even if I wasn't a Nets fan.
The guy is a top 5 player in the world and has paid his dues, he's about to be an unrestricted free agent, he has every right in the world to walk and unlike a Lebron or Bosh he went right to ownership and told them he is as good as gone, this is where I'm going, get yourselves a good package for me and get yourselves a good 2012 pick through sucking.

He has done nothing wrong.

In fact, the only other place I could see him thinking about is Boston if they trade Rondo for a stud wing on smaller salary and he and Deron can go there and get full max starting salary together and even that is a Plastic Man stretch.


Dallas is not an option, the pay cuts they would have to take would be absurd and as great as Dirk has been he's fading fast and the rest of the roster would be barren.

I think you take Q-Rich and Duhon, but not Hedo.

All of the words in VC's last post were stolen from my brain. I have nothing else to add

Its going to be interesting how this ends. If these star player do have "a list", things but not swing the Nets ways, especially if the Nets are thinking like VC4P above.

Shameer1016 wrote:Its going to be interesting how this ends. If these star player do have "a list", things but not swing the Nets ways, especially if the Nets are thinking like VC4P above.

Huh?

I assume "but" was supposed to be "will".

Why if the Nets are thinking my way will things not swing our way?

And BTW, in any Boston scenario, Pierce has to be traded this deadline for expirings and KG and Ray are basically as good as gone in the offseason, so don't think I meant they get to go there and join forces with the NBA's HOF AARP Club, cause that isn't happening.

I don't really want to see brooks or even lopez go (if that's what it comes down to), but its dwight howard we're talking about here.

vincecarter4pres wrote:

Shameer1016 wrote:Its going to be interesting how this ends. If these star player do have "a list", things but not swing the Nets ways, especially if the Nets are thinking like VC4P above.

Huh?

I assume "but" was supposed to be "will".

Why if the Nets are thinking my way will things not swing our way?

And BTW, in any Boston scenario, Pierce has to be traded this deadline for expirings and KG and Ray are basically as good as gone in the offseason, so don't think I meant they get to go there and join forces with the NBA's HOF AARP Club, cause that isn't happening.

I'm not saying he's going to the Celtics nor did I say anything, I just said it will be interesting to see what happens .

I was just mentioning the Celtics as in general cause I didn't say anything about Pierce when talking of them earlier.

But why wouldn't things swing our way in our case?

vincecarter4pres wrote:I was just mentioning the Celtics as in general cause I didn't say anything about Pierce when talking of them earlier.

But why wouldn't things swing our way in our case?

NEVER does, and this situation is so cloudy imo. That's why I said its INTERESTING to see HOW it ends lol

This whole "getting him as a free agent without giving up any assets" fantasy is not something anyone actually believes is going to happen right? The options are not trade for him or get him as a free agent, they are trade for him or someone else will.

You guys do not have that option just as conversely the Mavs do not have the option of trading for him. If Dwight and D-Will hit free agency, they can choose between resurrecting a graveyard of a franchise with the Nets or going to organizations which are backed by a winning reputation and creative in making major moves. Right now, you guys are the Sacramento Kings of the East, and I do not care how much you think moving to Brooklyn is going to change your image, because you will always be under the shadow of the Knicks. And in no way am I a Knicks fan.

DirkIsNBA wrote:You guys do not have that option just as conversely the Mavs do not have the option of trading for him. If Dwight and D-Will hit free agency, they can choose between resurrecting a graveyard of a franchise with the Nets or going to organizations which are backed by a winning reputation and creative in making major moves. Right now, you guys are the Sacramento Kings of the East, and I do not care how much you think moving to Brooklyn is going to change your image, because you will always be under the shadow of the Knicks. And in no way am I a Knicks fan.

Ugh, this whole scenario has been dissected and discussed ad nauseam, ok, we get it, you guys have a slim possibility of pairing them up with Dirk...but it's WAY easier to team up in NJ, and we'd be a better team than the Mavs would be.

DirkIsNBA wrote:You guys do not have that option just as conversely the Mavs do not have the option of trading for him. If Dwight and D-Will hit free agency, they can choose between resurrecting a graveyard of a franchise with the Nets or going to organizations which are backed by a winning reputation and creative in making major moves. Right now, you guys are the Sacramento Kings of the East, and I do not care how much you think moving to Brooklyn is going to change your image, because you will always be under the shadow of the Knicks. And in no way am I a Knicks fan.

Wait, what? Why don't we have the option for trading for Dwight?

Ballah wrote:This whole "getting him as a free agent without giving up any assets" fantasy is not something anyone actually believes is going to happen right? The options are not trade for him or get him as a free agent, they are trade for him or someone else will.

Like who? The only other real contender for a trade is the Lakers, and their offer is worse than ours. And who's going to sacrifice assets for a half-year rental?

Dwight leaving as a free agent is a definite possibility.

DarkXaero wrote:

DirkIsNBA wrote:You guys do not have that option just as conversely the Mavs do not have the option of trading for him. If Dwight and D-Will hit free agency, they can choose between resurrecting a graveyard of a franchise with the Nets or going to organizations which are backed by a winning reputation and creative in making major moves. Right now, you guys are the Sacramento Kings of the East, and I do not care how much you think moving to Brooklyn is going to change your image, because you will always be under the shadow of the Knicks. And in no way am I a Knicks fan.

Wait, what? Why don't we have the option for trading for Dwight?

I think he's saying we don't have the option to sign Dwight and Deron as free agents, because they'd rather go to the Mavs...you know, the same thing that's been reiterated by the other Mavs homer on the board, no matter how far fetched it is.

I don't understand, why don't we just ban these Mavs fans on this forum? It's not like they're here to do any meaningful discussion. They just come in here to trash our team, and tell us how Dwight & Deron to the Mavs is inevitable. That's pretty much trolling.

vincecarter4pres wrote:I agree with Ireland.

Would rather he comes here by FA and we keep Brook, Brooks and add a small forward with some of our assets and keep some smaller assets and expiring contracts for future flexibility.

That said, of course I would be elated if we got him at all.


If I'm Billy at this point though, my one big condition is I'm not taking any bad salary back at all.

No Hedo. No Duhon. No Q Rick. No J Rich.
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lol, Q-Rich has played decent when called on and makes $2.5mil. The only players the nets have that make less than him are rookies, Sheldon Williams and Stevenson. So dont act like Q-Rich in a trade would stop it.