Agent 0, The Answer?

[Da big3]

We can use one of these guys, of the bench i can sign A.I with the $20 in my pocket, and gilbert can be a had cheap, wont effect salary cap, and this team really dosnt have that good of a chemistry, takers anyone?

[vincecarter4pres]

A.I. was actually the guy I was thinking of a few weeks ago, but at this point it tells me two things:

1. We're basically tanking. Whether that's with the hopes of our pick becoming a star, trading it for one or to trade in a Dwight package, we're almost in an semi-unintentional tank.

2. A.I. must really be a cancerous goon, because someone, especially a team like us that was in such dire need of a talent infusion would have added him waaaaaay back in the season on a small one year deal.

Especially given Billy's connection with him, unless they despise each other.


Arenas still being unsigned tells me one of two things about him:

1. His knees are toast. Just got nothing left at this level.

2. He is literally insane. Like clinically. Not just odd or even Artest manageable fun crazy, but Kirk Snyder or Lionel Aldridge crazy.

[JDRoma]

From what it looks like the Nets are definitely trying to tank. Which I think is the reason why we are trying to find hidden Gems in the Free agent and not signing anyone in our d-league or even good known player. (i.e. Emmet, and [the other swignman])

[nykballa2k4]

From what it looks like the Nets are definitely trying to tank. Which I think is the reason why we are trying to find hidden Gems in the Free agent and not signing anyone in our d-league or even good known player. (i.e. Emmet, and [the other swignman])

IMO tanking is pointless for this team. If a team with Deron and Lopez finishes bottom 5, there goes Dwights desire to play for the Nets. He wants to win. Prove to Dwight this team can win with some of its parts and he might want to play here.

There is no harm in getting AI. Chances are he won't even register too much of an impact. He will merely sell tickets and provide some good quotes

[Jersey Generals]

Wait, the Nets can't sign Allen Iverson. If I'm not mistaken, don't the Nets have practices on off days?

[therealbig3]

Call me naive/dumb/optimistic, but I still don't think the playoffs are a lost cause for us. We're 6.5 games back with 32 games to go? Not impossible. We just need to put a more consistent effort out there, and honestly, Lopez coming back should help us out immensely. I don't ever see us losing to teams like the Raptors and the Pistons if we have Lopez in the lineup. Him and Deron would be a potent offensive combination.

If we could run off a solid winning streak during a weak stretch of games, why not? And we have shown that we can beat good teams (Philadelphia, Chicago, NY in the middle of Linsanity)...and we've played other good teams really close (Atlanta, Indiana, Memphis, Minnesota).

[vincecarter4pres]

Wait, the Nets can't sign Allen Iverson. If I'm not mistaken, don't the Nets have practices on off days?

Call me naive/dumb/optimistic.

Call me late for dinner!

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[Shameer1016]

Iverson? We talking about Iverson? Not some regular player, but Iverson? . I honestly just want to see him back in the league, one of my favorite players of All-Time.

[nykballa2k4]

Call me naive/dumb/optimistic, but I still don't think the playoffs are a lost cause for us. We're 6.5 games back with 32 games to go? Not impossible. We just need to put a more consistent effort out there, and honestly, Lopez coming back should help us out immensely. I don't ever see us losing to teams like the Raptors and the Pistons if we have Lopez in the lineup. Him and Deron would be a potent offensive combination.

If we could run off a solid winning streak during a weak stretch of games, why not? And we have shown that we can beat good teams (Philadelphia, Chicago, NY in the middle of Linsanity)...and we've played other good teams really close (Atlanta, Indiana, Memphis, Minnesota).

Nets need to get to, or near to, 500. at 10 and 24 that is a TOUGH road ahead. 10 wins in a row and the Nets STILL are not IN the playoffs.

Having said that, I stand by what I said. Nets, if they want Dwight, HAVE TO play above 500 ball the rest of the way.

[NyCeEvO]

Nets need to get to, or near to, 500. at 10 and 24 that is a TOUGH road ahead. 10 wins in a row and the Nets STILL are not IN the playoffs.

Having said that, I stand by what I said. Nets, if they want Dwight, HAVE TO play above 500 ball the rest of the way.

I strongly disagree with the idea that in order for the Nets to be attractive we have to play up to a certain standard.

Superstars care other superstars, not team records.

I'm sure you've heard the report that D12 talked to D-Will before the Knicks game against Lin and told D-Will "to show him something" and he went out and did it. D12 wanted to see D-Will be a superstar and he performed like a superstar.

D12 requested a trade to the Nets despite us having a terrible record last year. He didn't care about the record. He cared about D-Will and that's all that matters.

It doesn't matter if the Nets make the playoffs or not, Dwight knows that D-Will is a stud and if he has to wait to play with, he'll wait.

[N Ireland Nets]

Nets need to get to, or near to, 500. at 10 and 24 that is a TOUGH road ahead. 10 wins in a row and the Nets STILL are not IN the playoffs.

Having said that, I stand by what I said. Nets, if they want Dwight, HAVE TO play above 500 ball the rest of the way.

I strongly disagree with the idea that in order for the Nets to be attractive we have to play up to a certain standard.

Superstars care other superstars, not team records.

I'm sure you've heard the report that D12 talked to D-Will before the Knicks game against Lin and told D-Will "to show him something" and he went out and did it. D12 wanted to see D-Will be a superstar and he performed like a superstar.

D12 requested a trade to the Nets despite us having a terrible record last year. He didn't care about the record. He cared about D-Will and that's all that matters.

It doesn't matter if the Nets make the playoffs or not, Dwight knows that D-Will is a stud and if he has to wait to play with, he'll wait.

If we dont trade for Howard and he stays with Orlando past the deadline Im deadly serious when I say we should tank like hell.

Sit deron or fabricate an injury to rest him while we tank. A top lottery pick would be perfect for us to build a team to match the heat. It's really difficult to do but our team is awful anyway, just give Deron the nod & wink about the whole deal and he'll be fine with it, he's already an all star so got nothing more to achieve this season apart from the Olympics.

A top pick will be gold dust for us because if all goes to plan we'll be nowhere near the lottery for years and this is a totally unusual situation where we could go from the bottom to the top in one off season. Why play out the season, if we dont have Howard, looking to win because we aren't making the playoffs so tank tank tank.

Oh btw did i say I think we should tank? lol

Time to give 48mins to...

[nykballa2k4]

I strongly disagree with the idea that in order for the Nets to be attractive we have to play up to a certain standard.

Superstars care other superstars, not team records.

I'm sure you've heard the report that D12 talked to D-Will before the Knicks game against Lin and told D-Will "to show him something" and he went out and did it. D12 wanted to see D-Will be a superstar and he performed like a superstar.

D12 requested a trade to the Nets despite us having a terrible record last year. He didn't care about the record. He cared about D-Will and that's all that matters.

It doesn't matter if the Nets make the playoffs or not, Dwight knows that D-Will is a stud and if he has to wait to play with, he'll wait.

If we dont trade for Howard and he stays with Orlando past the deadline Im deadly serious when I say we should tank like hell.

Sit deron or fabricate an injury to rest him while we tank. A top lottery pick would be perfect for us to build a team to match the heat. It's really difficult to do but our team is awful anyway, just give Deron the nod & wink about the whole deal and he'll be fine with it, he's already an all star so got nothing more to achieve this season apart from the Olympics.

A top pick will be gold dust for us because if all goes to plan we'll be nowhere near the lottery for years and this is a totally unusual situation where we could go from the bottom to the top in one off season. Why play out the season, if we dont have Howard, looking to win because we aren't making the playoffs so tank tank tank.

Oh btw did i say I think we should tank? lol

Time to give 48mins to...

Thing is, if I am Dwight, and Boston talks to me "Hey Dwight, you sign with us, we get KG, and Ray Allen to come back for cheap" As a guy who wants to win, I have a choice to make. Nets want to make a serious run for D12, they should at least make an effort to get a 2nd legitimate player at the deadline and try to contend.

Getting AI and making a deal for another big name guy makes the Nets an actual destination. You guys are right in that you can wait until later to make the team look like a contender, but if you do this sooner, you might make the choice easier for Dwight.

Example: When C's got KG, they had 1 star in Pierce, had to deal for a 2nd piece in Allen to entice KG to go along with the trade.

Dwight knows that Deron + Dwight does not necessarily equal rings. Even if you have Humpries or Lopez still on the team, its not going to compete with the Heat.

Despite what cap room means, there will be a sign and trade made. Lopez will likely be going over in the trade.

[Shameer1016]

I actually agree with what you said above. There's many holes to fill on a team with Howard and D-Willz, MANY MANY holes(giggidy). There no question that it will take time, but Howard and D-Willz would be a good start none the less.

[N Ireland Nets]

People have to remember that even if we trade the farm for Howard and end up with basically Williams, Hedo & Howard that our entire roster will be drastically different next season.

Your looking at only really Petro & Shawne Williams being on the roster from the current roster (apart from Williams).

The team will be completely turned over and changed. I think it's pretty much a cert that AK47 signs next season, hopefully for the mini exemption and leaves our MLE open to sign a good player to fit in.

We will definately have holes but look at the players who drifted to the Knicks and Clippers to try for rings. We will be a prime spot for vets to sign. I could see the likes of Grant Hill, Jason Kidd etc being very interested.

An option for the MLE, doubt he would take it but to be fair he's never been on a contender. Could the Nets make a run for Gerald Wallace?

I know he's on $10million but if he op's out whats to stop him taking a pay cut and making a run for a ring?

Again highly doubt it but there will be options in the summer, so long as we have Howard and Williams

[tugs]

just thought of NJ acquiring Larry Hughes. wasn't Hughes supposed to be traded for Bobby Simmons back then? he didn't perform well in Orlando because he did what he was asked to, be a full time PG. I think he'll be effective with you guys at the 2 or 3 spot.

[nykballa2k4]

People have to remember that even if we trade the farm for Howard and end up with basically Williams, Hedo & Howard that our entire roster will be drastically different next season.

Your looking at only really Petro & Shawne Williams being on the roster from the current roster (apart from Williams).

The team will be completely turned over and changed. I think it's pretty much a cert that AK47 signs next season, hopefully for the mini exemption and leaves our MLE open to sign a good player to fit in.

We will definately have holes but look at the players who drifted to the Knicks and Clippers to try for rings. We will be a prime spot for vets to sign. I could see the likes of Grant Hill, Jason Kidd etc being very interested.

An option for the MLE, doubt he would take it but to be fair he's never been on a contender. Could the Nets make a run for Gerald Wallace?

I know he's on $10million but if he op's out whats to stop him taking a pay cut and making a run for a ring?

Again highly doubt it but there will be options in the summer, so long as we have Howard and Williams

I don't see Grant Hill leaving the Suns to join the year 1 brooklyn Nets. Hill could possibly join Lakers, Clippers, Knicks, Spurs, possibly even Heat or C's despite their lack of gaps there.
With Hill, Crash and AK47, money has predicted their futures more times than not. AK was holding out for a good contract offer to come back to the US. None came therefore he stayed in Russia. He won't sign on for peanuts. If anything Nets may have to sign and trade for him so he can make his desired 8 mil or so (arbitrary above MLE number).

The point you make is that the team can look completely different after a trade. One HUGE negative is that Nets wasted their amnesty already on Outlaw. Yea, Outlaw had a bad contract, but for a billionaire amnestying one large deal a la Turk, is much more worthwhile than getting rid of a bad MLE signing.

It have not looked at the hypothetical salaries if a sign and trade of Lopez + lotto pick + late first + Brooks would look like but you figure cap at 58, Deron and Dwight combine for 37 mil, turk is over 12 mil that alone is 49 million plus cap holds. It will be tough fielding any sort of team with that little flexibility. In perspective, upon the Heat's formation the big 3 made a combined 48 mil(well actually that is what they make now via hoopshype)

Building around Dwight/Deron, given the constraint of Hedo, is going to be very very difficult

Remove Hedo from the equation and my opinion changes entirely, obviously. You can then keep on Morrow (4) James (1.3) Shawne (3.1) and Petro (3.5) Farmar (4.25) at around 16 mil (turning that 49 into 53) at least afterwards having more flexibility than you would with Turk

[vincecarter4pres]

Wow, not for nothing, I understand you're not a Nets fan, but with the exceptional amount of information available easily all over our board you're quite clueless.

[nykballa2k4]

Wow, not for nothing, I understand you're not a Nets fan, but with the exceptional amount of information available easily all over our board you're quite clueless.

I guess my point is that a difference maker will likely cost more than the Nets have factoring in just the 3 contracts they will likely have.

Having said all of that, the Nets are currently deep at the guard positions, if tanking, so giving AI a 10 day try out, where you know he is going to play his azz off, is only as valuable as the tickets he sells.