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Lets say there are rumblings that the Nets are going not getting Dwight. Lakers or Mavericks have something in the works and getting him is no longer possible. Hypothetical "beat to the punch" deals could be:

Boston: Deron + Petro/Williams for Rondo, JO, Avery, draft pick(s)
Lakers: Deron for Gasol, Side pot of Petro, Shawne for TPE and picks
Mavericks: Deron for Terry, Roddy, picks(s)
Atlanta: Deron and Humph for Horford, Teague, Hinrich (flipped to lakers for TPE and pick)
Rockets: Deron for Lowry, Scola and draft pick(s)

I mean, there are likely a ton of good deals that could be made where the Nets get more of a sure thing. Just looking at this list (feel free to add your own suggestions) ATL would be a great partner.

Lopez and the nets latter pick could possibly be enough to get Bogut, next season wind up with
Bogut
Horford
Kidd-Gilchrist
Brooks
Teague

keep Morrow and add depth as need be.

Under a doomsday scenario I think I prefer the Boston deal.

The problem is though, the only way the Nets even think of trading Deron is if Dwight is traded to LAL. Even in that case I honestly don't know that they would deal him unless he told the FO, I'm going to leave for Dallas now.

The LAL deal is a big fat no.

I don't see Atlanta doing that deal at all.

The Rockets deal is decent.

I hope it never comes to this. I don't even want to start considering other scenarios.

macgyver893 wrote:I hope it never comes to this. I don't even want to start considering other scenarios.

Understandable. I am always a pessimist though. Even though I am a Knicks fan, I still have the urge to problem solve when it comes to teams. The real doomsday for the Nets though is to be a 1.5 superstar team that is a perennial 5-7 seed. The goal for any team is to win a ring.

to VC4Prez:
The Boston deal makes the most sense in a vacuum, but helping the C's win some more rings as a division rival could be detrimental to the franchise.

Atlanta SHOULD jump on this deal because Deron is an all-star, Lopez is about healthy at this point, so Hawks actually have a full team and a legitimate center rather than the f/c Horford.

With Deron, the Hawks have the ability to either try and recruit Dwight via free agency or compete now with what they have.

Might do the Rockets deal. But I don't think the Nets are going to trade him, there's just over two weeks and if Deron wants out he probably would have asked by now.

Ronito wrote:But I don't think the Nets are going to trade him, there's just over two weeks and if Deron wants out he probably would have asked by now.

Exactly.

Plus, if D-Will wanted out, he would've told us a while ago. He really likes the organization and I'm sure that he (like CP3 with NOH) would want us to get something solid in return. Waiting until now to say that he wants out wouldn't be good for either side.

If we do trade him and those scenarios came up. I'd go for Boston first then Atlanta second. Rondo could do wonders for Brooks and Lopez.

And with Horford coming we can switch him to PF and he and Lopez can compliment each other. Wouldn't want Hinrich though, unless he's an expiring would be looking to somehow not include him

i really would rather not play this game...
but if this does come to that, why does anybody give up top assets for d.will?
i feel like we would get low balled much harder then any of those scenarios suggest.

realistically, i think we would see a lot more offers like the dallas deal then the houston deal.

Deron seems like the type of guy if he was pissed about where he was currently at he would express his feelings and all he continues to do is say positive things.If he does leave i wish him the best but ill kind of hate the fact that he really led this team on into thinking he was going to stay

NETS EPIC OFFSEASON REBUILD:

Sign and Trade Deron for:

Jimmer Fredette, re-signed Jason Thompson ($5 years $35 million), Francisco Garcia, Travis Outlaw, Kings 1st Round Pick (which will be used to draft Fab Melo).

Draft Tyler Zeller with Nets first round pick. Draft Terrence Jones with Rockets pick.

Sign and Trade Lopez to New Orleans for Al-farouq Aminu, Xavier Henry, and a second round pick.

Trade Morrow and Petro for Andris Biedrins.

Sign Kirk Hinrich to a 3 year $15 million deal.

Projected lineup:

PG: Jordan Farmar / Kirk Hinrich
SG: Jimmer Fredette / Francisco Garcia / Marshon Brooks / Xavier Henry
SF: Travis Outlaw / Al-Farouq Aminu / Terrence Jones / Shawne Williams
PF: Jason Thompson / Tyler Zeller / Jordan Williams
C: Fab Melo / Andris Biedrins

twinsanity wrote:NETS EPIC OFFSEASON REBUILD:

Sign and Trade Deron for:

Jimmer Fredette, re-signed Jason Thompson ($5 years $35 million), Francisco Garcia, Travis Outlaw, Kings 1st Round Pick (which will be used to draft Fab Melo).

Draft Tyler Zeller with Nets first round pick. Draft Terrence Jones with Rockets pick.

Sign and Trade Lopez to New Orleans for Al-farouq Aminu, Xavier Henry, and a second round pick.

Trade Morrow and Petro for Andris Biedrins.

Sign Kirk Hinrich to a 3 year $15 million deal.

Projected lineup:

PG: Jordan Farmar / Kirk Hinrich
SG: Jimmer Fredette / Francisco Garcia / Marshon Brooks / Xavier Henry
SF: Travis Outlaw / Al-Farouq Aminu / Terrence Jones / Shawne Williams
PF: Jason Thompson / Tyler Zeller / Jordan Williams
C: Fab Melo / Andris Biedrins

I can tell that this is a joke just from the simple fact that Travis Outlaw not only returns back to us in that deal, but he's our starting SF lol.

twinsanity wrote:NETS EPIC OFFSEASON REBUILD:

Sign and Trade Deron for:

Jimmer Fredette, re-signed Jason Thompson ($5 years $35 million), Francisco Garcia, Travis Outlaw, Kings 1st Round Pick (which will be used to draft Fab Melo).

Draft Tyler Zeller with Nets first round pick. Draft Terrence Jones with Rockets pick.

Sign and Trade Lopez to New Orleans for Al-farouq Aminu, Xavier Henry, and a second round pick.

Trade Morrow and Petro for Andris Biedrins.

Sign Kirk Hinrich to a 3 year $15 million deal.

Projected lineup:

PG: Jordan Farmar / Kirk Hinrich
SG: Jimmer Fredette / Francisco Garcia / Marshon Brooks / Xavier Henry
SF: Travis Outlaw / Al-Farouq Aminu / Terrence Jones / Shawne Williams
PF: Jason Thompson / Tyler Zeller / Jordan Williams
C: Fab Melo / Andris Biedrins

This might be the worst team in the history of the league. You weren't serious about signing Jason Thompson for 7M a year, were you? I pray none of this for the sake of Nets fans.....

I doubt he was serious. Jason Thompson will easily cost $9 mill per.

It's always important to have backup-plans. But the alternatives mentioned here show what kind of a gamble it is to try to aquire to superstars for a new stadium. I mean it was well known that there is a new arena and a move coming so building a team organically that is then ready to be topped up with a major aquisition (as the Bulls did in 2010) would have made more sense imho.

The future is not bleak if D12 and Deron end up somewhere else, but you guys are probably looking at at least another year of lottery bball, not the best way to open up an arena in a town where there is one of the most established franchises here.

And yeah, props for Deron to no bitch and moan about wanting to leave, but at the same time you should also put it in perspective. The guy has been traded (without his knowledge) to the Nets and has been in Jersey for less than a year knowing that he can leave in 2012 if he so desires. The most prudent and most sensible thing to do if you want to be somehwere else is to look if the situation works out and then move. LeBron, Bosh, D12 etc. didn't leave after a season but after many years and because of lacking perspectives (and big market blabla). I mean asking for a trade after being only one year on a team? Last I heard that's Cousins niveau.


Oh and slightly OT but I think the appeal to play for the Nets is a bit overestimated. Players that want to play in NY usually want to do that for the Knicks. Even if you look business, in an established market you usually go with the dominant brand that is well positioned (think about it that way, the Knicks sucked for almost 10 years while the Nets went to the finals twice and had J-Kidd and Vince Carter, still I'm pretty sure that more people have heard of the Knicks around the globe and in the US than from the Nets).
I did however think that the Brooklyn Nets pitch would have been perfect for LeBron and his desire to create his own brand and could also see it working for D12.

I'm being dead serious. If allowed to play alongside a true leader such as Jordan Farmar I don't see why Travis Outlaw couldn't be a 16 ppg 5 rpg defensive stalwart.

In fact if you take out the fluke game where he only scored 3 pts in games Outlaw started alongside Farmar Outlaw averaged:

18.5 ppg 5 rpg 1.5 spg on 45% shooting last year. Not bad numbers.

Fire Mchale wrote:

twinsanity wrote:NETS EPIC OFFSEASON REBUILD:

Sign and Trade Deron for:

Jimmer Fredette, re-signed Jason Thompson ($5 years $35 million), Francisco Garcia, Travis Outlaw, Kings 1st Round Pick (which will be used to draft Fab Melo).

Draft Tyler Zeller with Nets first round pick. Draft Terrence Jones with Rockets pick.

Sign and Trade Lopez to New Orleans for Al-farouq Aminu, Xavier Henry, and a second round pick.

Trade Morrow and Petro for Andris Biedrins.

Sign Kirk Hinrich to a 3 year $15 million deal.

Projected lineup:

PG: Jordan Farmar / Kirk Hinrich
SG: Jimmer Fredette / Francisco Garcia / Marshon Brooks / Xavier Henry
SF: Travis Outlaw / Al-Farouq Aminu / Terrence Jones / Shawne Williams
PF: Jason Thompson / Tyler Zeller / Jordan Williams
C: Fab Melo / Andris Biedrins

This might be the worst team in the history of the league. You weren't serious about signing Jason Thompson for 7M a year, were you? I pray none of this for the sake of Nets fans.....

Team full of role players. cool. Missing the green font though

If allowed to play their games Farmar and Fredette would be reminiscent of Thomas and Dumars. Too much to handle for the other team.

Also while it will take him roughly 2 years Fab Melo has GREAT ONE written all over him. You can't teach height.

twinsanity wrote:If allowed to play their games Farmar and Fredette would be reminiscent of Thomas and Dumars. Too much to handle for the other team.

Also while it will take him roughly 2 years Fab Melo has GREAT ONE written all over him. You can't teach height.

In seriousness, I see good things ahead for Fab Melo.

I will be perfectly blunt here. Dwight ends up somewhere else...Deron is gone to where he wants to go and we get nothing. Maybe a pick for doing an S&T to get him the extra year. But beyond that...nothing. We went all in on this. King's job is on the line...period. Its Dwight/Deron or nothing and no compensation of merit. SO unless you have a trade scenario that get you something you want from Dallas...just strap yourself in and wait to see how this all unfolds. Praying might not be a bad idea.

S&T won't even get us anything unless he's going to a team that doesn't have the cap space to sign him. S&T's no longer allow an extra year or higher raise percentages.