anyone notice?

[DreamDeadly]

Anyone else noticing the nets are looking much better than they did earlier in the season, everyones starting to understand their roles. I dont know it might just be me, but a couple of weeks ago it was painful to watch nets games, now I'm starting to enjoy it once again. Hopefully everyone returns for next season with a healthy Lopez, and with some luck that top 3 pick

lets hope everyone with some additions return. now i jus read the lakers would be interested in signing gerald green. i dont understand why billy king didnt offer him like a contract for the rest of the year and a 2 year reasonable contract. oh wait i do understand its billy king who knows absolutely nothing. i swear if green goes to another team im gonna be pissed

[N Ireland Nets]

Anyone else noticing the nets are looking much better than they did earlier in the season, everyones starting to understand their roles. I dont know it might just be me, but a couple of weeks ago it was painful to watch nets games, now I'm starting to enjoy it once again. Hopefully everyone returns for next season with a healthy Lopez, and with some luck that top 3 pick

lets hope everyone with some additions return. now i jus read the lakers would be interested in signing gerald green. i dont understand why billy king didnt offer him like a contract for the rest of the year and a 2 year reasonable contract. oh wait i do understand its billy king who knows absolutely nothing. i swear if green goes to another team im gonna be pissed

Green is quoted as saying he wants to come back and the Nets want him back but he agreed to a end of season deal because he wants the Nets to maintain cap flexability. Due to the Nets having Greens bird rights, we can sign free agents then sign up Green.

Think of it as the Nets making a move to sign say KG with roughly $8million of cap room. We could sign KG then start to work on Green and Lopez's new deals.

[DBoys]

Green is quoted as saying he wants to come back and the Nets want him back but he agreed to a end of season deal because he wants the Nets to maintain cap flexability.

I suspect Green wanted to stay in NJ with a big raise but the real reason he didn't sign a longer deal was the Nets didn't want to offer one for more than the minimum, and he knows he should be able to get more this summer, if not from NJ then from some other team.

Due to the Nets having Greens bird rights, we can sign free agents then sign up Green.

There are no Bird rights on Green. He'll be a street free agent open to the highest bidder. He'll prefer NJ but it will be because he's finally had some NBA success there, and they will have to outbid other teams if they want to keep him.

[N Ireland Nets]

Green is quoted as saying he wants to come back and the Nets want him back but he agreed to a end of season deal because he wants the Nets to maintain cap flexability.

I suspect Green wanted to stay in NJ with a big raise but the real reason he didn't sign a longer deal was the Nets didn't want to offer one for more than the minimum, and he knows he should be able to get more this summer, if not from NJ then from some other team.

Due to the Nets having Greens bird rights, we can sign free agents then sign up Green.

There are no Bird rights on Green. He'll be a street free agent open to the highest bidder. He'll prefer NJ but it will be because he's finally had some NBA success there, and they will have to outbid other teams if they want to keep him.

I've read somewhere recently that the Nets have some form of Bird rights on Green this summer for sure

[jeff1624]

Green is quoted as saying he wants to come back and the Nets want him back but he agreed to a end of season deal because he wants the Nets to maintain cap flexability.

I suspect Green wanted to stay in NJ with a big raise but the real reason he didn't sign a longer deal was the Nets didn't want to offer one for more than the minimum, and he knows he should be able to get more this summer, if not from NJ then from some other team.

Due to the Nets having Greens bird rights, we can sign free agents then sign up Green.

There are no Bird rights on Green. He'll be a street free agent open to the highest bidder. He'll prefer NJ but it will be because he's finally had some NBA success there, and they will have to outbid other teams if they want to keep him.

I've read somewhere recently that the Nets have some form of Bird rights on Green this summer for sure

Isn't this the same situation as Lin and the Knicks? They own his bird-rights, why shouldn't we have Green's?

[DBoys]

Someone is mistaken or has thrown tricky language at you.

It takes 3 years to get full Bird Rights, and 2 years to get early Bird Rights. Green is only a one-year player.

Coon in his chats sometimes labels the one-year player as having "one year Bird rights" but it's a misnomer and simply confuses things. In the sense we understand Bird rights (the addition of significant added flexibility to sign your own free agent with a sizable raise even if you don't have cap room), there is no such thing as one-year Bird rights, and the NBA calls such a player "non-Bird" in its summaries.

[DBoys]

And by the way, NY does NOT have any Bird rights on Lin. He's a one-year player and "non-Bird." His Bird clock started over when NY claimed him on waivers in Dec 2011. If they want to keep him, they'll have to use MLE or BAE money to pay him more than the minimum.

[TheNetsFan]

"Non-Bird FA" is still a form of bird rights. A team can go over the cap to resign its Non-Bird FA without using an exception, but the raise they can give isn't much. I believe it's like 20%.

Where NY has an advantage with Lin is that because of his tenure in the league, Lin is restricted in how much he can earn under the Gilbert Arenas rule. His next two year's salary can't be more than the MLE, so the Knicks can't get out bid in that regard. In my opinion, neither Lin nor Green should be getting that much money.

[Shameer1016]

Anyone else noticing the nets are looking much better than they did earlier in the season, everyones starting to understand their roles. I dont know it might just be me, but a couple of weeks ago it was painful to watch nets games, now I'm starting to enjoy it once again. Hopefully everyone returns for next season with a healthy Lopez, and with some luck that top 3 pick

lets hope everyone with some additions return. now i jus read the lakers would be interested in signing gerald green. i dont understand why billy king didnt offer him like a contract for the rest of the year and a 2 year reasonable contract. oh wait i do understand its billy king who knows absolutely nothing. i swear if green goes to another team im gonna be pissed

Green is quoted as saying he wants to come back and the Nets want him back but he agreed to a end of season deal because he wants the Nets to maintain cap flexability. Due to the Nets having Greens bird rights, we can sign free agents then sign up Green.

Think of it as the Nets making a move to sign say KG with roughly $8million of cap room. We could sign KG then start to work on Green and Lopez's new deals.

Did he actually say this, or is this Nets fans trying to read between the lines again? Becuase I'm sure he didn't sign for next year to field offers as well. Loyalty? There is no such thing in Sport.

[DBoys]

"Non-Bird FA" is still a form of bird rights. A team can go over the cap to resign its Non-Bird FA without using an exception, but the raise they can give isn't much. I believe it's like 20%.

I'm quibbling about that designation.

"Bird" doesn't actually appear in the CBA, but it was a nickname to refer to the special rights for a team to sign its 3-continuous-years player. Then a lesser version of extra latitude was added for the 2-year player and called "early" Bird. One year form was non-Bird.

That's the way Coon does it in his FAQ and the NBA does it in their memos. It's true that there is a bit of latitude on that one-year player (20%), but traditionally that one-year player hasn't been called a Bird player. The references used have been Bird (3 or more years), early Bird (2), and non-Bird (1).

To begin to call one year "Bird" virtually renders meaningless the reference that one of your free agents has "Bird" rights ...because by that definition, they all do, in one form or another. It also seems contradictory to call a player "Bird" where the NBA uses the term "non-Bird" for that player, and it's certainly confusing to arbitrarily recast terminology where the rules and NBA's references are unchanged.

[NyCeEvO]

So basically, you came in here to rain on the party, argue over semantics and are just trying to justify why you're still right. You can stop quibbling.

The point is we can offer him a raise. The dude has come out and is quoted/recorded as saying how grateful he is to the Nets and that "he's not going anywhere".

[DBoys]

Don't be rude.

The point is that the idea postulated, that the Nets could use up their cap space first, and sign Green last with "Bird" rights, is pretty much a "no."

In that scenario, they can sign him by using some of their cap space. Or after the cap space is gone, they can use their MLE (2.575M) or the minimum.

I agree he'd stay in NJ if they offer him what he gets offered elsewhere.

[N Ireland Nets]

Don't be rude.

The point is that the idea postulated, that the Nets could use up their cap space first, and sign Green last with "Bird" rights, is pretty much a "no."

In that scenario, they can sign him by using some of their cap space. Or after the cap space is gone, they can use their MLE (2.575M) or the minimum.

I agree he'd stay in NJ if they offer him what he gets offered elsewhere.

No I understand where you're coming from. I just haven't a clue on the in's and out's of the CBA but had read that the Nets have some form of rights over Green.

I appreciate that you broke it down for me and it wasn't condescending. He will be a Nets next season though, he's quoted multiple times about being thankful for the opportunity with the Nets. Also I don't think he wouldve had the same impact with any other NBA due to just how dire our SF position play was. Therefore he got big minutes instantly as a D league call up so he was given a great platform to succeed with the Nets.

Looking forward to seeing Green in Brooklyn