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Posted: **Wed May 2, 2012 6:23 pm**

hey guys,
quick question. Was the GW trade a good move for you guys or a very short-sighted move, made in haste after dwight flip flopped. Considering the players traded plus a lottery pick in a deep draft for a player who is going to opt out, did the nets not give up too much?

Especially if that pick was going to be used to get dwight from the magic in the offseason, or to even get a player in the draft? If williams leave, nets dont even have a lottery pick to show for it. If he stays, that pick could not have been better utilized?

thanks

Posted: **Wed May 2, 2012 6:24 pm**

it all comes down to the draft lottery

Posted: **Wed May 2, 2012 6:29 pm**

If he stays and we get a top 3 pick it was a good deal.

Posted: **Wed May 2, 2012 6:59 pm**

The deal was terrible no matter what happens with our pick.

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Posted: **Wed May 2, 2012 7:02 pm**

It was never a good deal.

Having bird rights for a non-max player doesn't mean much except the fact that the player is familiar with the franchise. But since Wallace has been traded a few times, changing teams is not something new to him and he doesn't really care about it.

We dumped Okur who was going to expire anyway and could have stretch provisioned Shawn and put an even better tank on.

Nothing in the last 20 games (when Wallace came to the Nets) was going to change his opinion of the team.

It was bad on all counts.

Posted: **Wed May 2, 2012 7:10 pm**

What Jeff and NyCe said.

Posted: **Wed May 2, 2012 8:10 pm**

It was a great deal. We got a top 10 pick for a player that we weren't going to re-sign anyway if he opted out. Overall, I look forward to what we can do with our team.

Kendall Marshall
Wes Matthews
Nicolas Batum
Lamarcus Aldridge
Meyers Leonard/Tyler Zeller

Nice core right there, along with some cap room to supplement them.

It was a great trade.

Posted: **Wed May 2, 2012 8:14 pm**

Jersey Generals wrote:It was a great deal. We got a top 10 pick for a player that we weren't going to re-sign anyway if he opted out. Overall, I look forward to what we can do with our team.

Kendall Marshall
Wes Matthews
Nicolas Batum
Lamarcus Aldridge
Meyers Leonard/Tyler Zeller

Nice core right there, along with some cap room to supplement them.

It was a great trade.

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Posted: **Wed May 2, 2012 9:50 pm**

Jersey Generals wrote:It was a great deal. We got a top 10 pick for a player that we weren't going to re-sign anyway if he opted out. Overall, I look forward to what we can do with our team.

Kendall Marshall
Wes Matthews
Nicolas Batum
Lamarcus Aldridge
Meyers Leonard/Tyler Zeller

Nice core right there, along with some cap room to supplement them.

It was a great trade.

All joking aside, I still say it was a crap and stupid trade BUT it does mean we have something we can use for a possible trade in the summer for Howard by extending Wallace and giving him a 3 year $29million deal.

I believe King traded for Wallace to give us assets for a trade in July or at the draft before Williams makes a deicision on where he is going. Or maybe I give King to much credit. It would make sense when you think about bringing in AK47 along with resigning Green.

So yes it was a bad trade, although it could end up with us giving up a mid to late first if we jump to the top 3 this year and also could lead to us landing Howard. So in a years time it could've worked out very well but we won't know for sure until July and even then it was a risky deal.

Posted: **Thu May 3, 2012 6:07 am**

N Ireland Nets wrote:All joking aside, I still say it was a crap and stupid trade BUT it does mean we have something we can use for a possible trade in the summer for Howard by extending Wallace and giving him a 3 year $29million deal.

I believe King traded for Wallace to give us assets for a trade in July or at the draft before Williams makes a deicision on where he is going. Or maybe I give King to much credit. It would make sense when you think about bringing in AK47 along with resigning Green.

So yes it was a bad trade, although it could end up with us giving up a mid to late first if we jump to the top 3 this year and also could lead to us landing Howard. So in a years time it could've worked out very well but we won't know for sure until July and even then it was a risky deal.

This. Smith allegedly values Crash highly and doesn't want any substitute. POR knew this, and milked us for him.

It could break very badly for us, since we're banking on ORL and Dwight Howard working together, which hasn't happened for about 18 months. Also, what incentive does Gerald Wallace have to play along here? Sure, he could get a bigger payday via S&T, but if this situation drags out, he could be letting other opportunities pass him by.

Ultimately, I think we have a better than 50% chance to unite Deron and Dwight in Brooklyn. IF it happens, it will be before Williams leaves for the Olympics (July 7th), and it will have to involve Wallace. In that light, whether or not we lose the pick to POR, it worked out well. But the trade could also result in us losing the pick, Deron, Gerald and any shot we had at Dwight. A GM would have to be crazy to take such a risk. Let's *hope* that Billy King is crazy like a fox. :pray:

Posted: **Thu May 3, 2012 10:44 am**

ecuhus1981 wrote:
N Ireland Nets wrote:All joking aside, I still say it was a crap and stupid trade BUT it does mean we have something we can use for a possible trade in the summer for Howard by extending Wallace and giving him a 3 year $29million deal.

I believe King traded for Wallace to give us assets for a trade in July or at the draft before Williams makes a deicision on where he is going. Or maybe I give King to much credit. It would make sense when you think about bringing in AK47 along with resigning Green.

So yes it was a bad trade, although it could end up with us giving up a mid to late first if we jump to the top 3 this year and also could lead to us landing Howard. So in a years time it could've worked out very well but we won't know for sure until July and even then it was a risky deal.

This. Smith allegedly values Crash highly and doesn't want any substitute. POR knew this, and milked us for him.

It could break very badly for us, since we're banking on ORL and Dwight Howard working together, which hasn't happened for about 18 months. Also, what incentive does Gerald Wallace have to play along here? Sure, he could get a bigger payday via S&T, but if this situation drags out, he could be letting other opportunities pass him by.

Ultimately, I think we have a better than 50% chance to unite Deron and Dwight in Brooklyn. IF it happens, it will be before Williams leaves for the Olympics (July 7th), and it will have to involve Wallace. In that light, whether or not we lose the pick to POR, it worked out well. But the trade could also result in us losing the pick, Deron, Gerald and any shot we had at Dwight. A GM would have to be crazy to take such a risk. Let's *hope* that Billy King is crazy like a fox.

I think we can extend Wallace at any time as its written in his current contract. So we could extend & trade him whenever we want plus he's not getting 3 years at $29million any other way.

Posted: **Thu May 3, 2012 2:09 pm**

I'd consider it a great deal once we land a top 3 pick in this draft.

Posted: **Thu May 3, 2012 7:27 pm**

Bad deal. It was a gamble, which can never be considered a "good deal"

Posted: **Sat May 5, 2012 9:39 pm**

If we draft Davis and keep Deron Williams and Wallace comes back for cheap. Then it was a great deal.

Otherwise it was terrible, obviously

Posted: **Sun May 6, 2012 6:29 pm**

If I were billy i would have pushed for top 4 protected then done the deal

Posted: **Sun May 6, 2012 7:39 pm**

NY_Kn1cks wrote:If I were billy i would have pushed for top 4 protected then done the deal

Posted: **Sat May 12, 2012 8:55 pm**

NY_Kn1cks wrote:If I were billy i would have pushed for top 4 protected then done the deal

It is impossible for the Nets to get the 4th pick, they can only move to top 3 or stay where they are.

Posted: **Sat May 12, 2012 9:19 pm**

yes, that is why he said IF i were billy I would have pushed to get top 4.

Posted: **Sat May 12, 2012 9:27 pm**

It's a good deal if he stays and the nets get a top three pick this season. Bad deal if he leaves and the nets lose the pick

Posted: **Sat May 12, 2012 10:06 pm**

Yeah, because a post hoc analysis isn't a fallacy at all.

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