Current state of nets salary cap...

[PetroNet]

Sorry for the post on this, but im heavily confused with everything going on. id like to think i have a decent grasp on the cba, but all these moves have my head spinning.

assume we DONT trade for howard, what is our current cap situation and how much could we spend on free agency and what order of operations is needed on moves we agreed to(trade fo JJ, MLE on mirza, S and T for evans...)

if we DONT renounce humphries, what can we spend on free agents?

[gelek]

It's something of a mistery for me. I am happy that you got Deron cause that will make our Games that much more competitive and fun but I'm having a hard time figuring out how you will fill out your roster.

Currently as is:

Deron 17.2
Crash 9
JoeJ 19.5
Brooks 1.1
Evans 1.5
Tele 5
Lopez CH 7.6
Humphries CH 12
4 capholds 1.9

which is right at the hard cap. One thing of note is how the CBA is worded. Can you go up to the apron and then cross it with the FullMLE? IF so you'd potentially have 2-3 Million more to play around but that's it.

So either Humphries and Lopez sign together for 19.6 and you fill out your roster with 4 rookies on min deals (also meaning that you can't probably sign 15 guys) or you renounce one of them which severly impacts your teams strenght.

Also in an eventual D12 move, you couldn't take on salary which makes it harder if Orlando stands firm in sheding Hedo's salary.

All in all it's a great day for you guys, but if I were you I'd pray that none of your star players get hurt since you're not going to be able to add on any more salary through vet min signings and the likes until 2013...

[N Ireland Nets]

Im not sure how it works but over on NetsDaily people in the "know" keep saying the Nets can do this by the timing of the deals to go through.

I think they mean for instance, Green or our free agents sign first, the use bird rights, then use MLE etc then vet min type deals.

Thats insanely watered down and not right but its apparently to do with the timing of the deals and when people sign. King and Marks are getting big credit from NBA people for how they are managing their cap.

[paulpressey25]

Currently as is:

Deron 17.2
Crash 9
JoeJ 19.5
Brooks 1.1
Evans 1.5
Tele 5
Lopez CH 7.6
Humphries CH 12
4 capholds 1.9

Thanks for doing this. If I read this right, the Nets are at approx. $50mm plus your cap holds on Lopez and Humprhies. Given that you won't renounce Lopez, you are right at $58 million then before your MLE signing and Humphries cap hold.

So basically if you want Ersan Ilysova, you must sign and trade Humphries for him is what I'm seeing above.

[drejeronfire]

Currently as is:

Deron 17.2
Crash 9
JoeJ 19.5
Brooks 1.1
Evans 1.5
Tele 5
Lopez CH 7.6
Humphries CH 12
4 capholds 1.9

Thanks for doing this. If I read this right, the Nets are at approx. $50mm plus your cap holds on Lopez and Humprhies. Given that you won't renounce Lopez, you are right at $58 million then before your MLE signing and Humphries cap hold.

So basically if you want Ersan Ilysova, you must sign and trade Humphries for him is what I'm seeing above.

I haven't crunched the number but that's what all the reports seem to be indicating...

[WiscoKing13]

So basically the only way you guys are getting Howard is if lopez wants to go to ORL, right?

[Ronito]

Im not sure how it works but over on NetsDaily people in the "know" keep saying the Nets can do this by the timing of the deals to go through.

I think they mean for instance, Green or our free agents sign first, the use bird rights, then use MLE etc then vet min type deals.

Thats insanely watered down and not right but its apparently to do with the timing of the deals and when people sign. King and Marks are getting big credit from NBA people for how they are managing their cap.

It's true. Signing Tele for the MLE needed to come first and it happened. Not sure what's next.

So basically the only way you guys are getting Howard is if lopez wants to go to ORL, right?

I doubt that's an obstacle. He loves Orlando as well.

[NyCeEvO]

So basically the only way you guys are getting Howard is if lopez wants to go to ORL, right?

LOL....you act like this is a problem.

[WiscoKing13]

So basically the only way you guys are getting Howard is if lopez wants to go to ORL, right?

LOL....you act like this is a problem lol.

when one team has bynum and one team has lopez, the team with lopez normally would lose.

[drejeronfire]

So basically the only way you guys are getting Howard is if lopez wants to go to ORL, right?

LOL....you act like this is a problem lol.

when one team has bynum and one team has lopez, the team with lopez normally would lose.

If Lopez got to play alongside Pau Gasol (arguably the best passing big in the league and a Top 6 big man in the league) and Kobe Bryant (enough said) I'm sure his numbers would be inflated as well...

The Bynum hype is hysterical. The guy wouldn't pass to a wide open teammate if his life depended on it.

[gelek]

Currently as is:

Deron 17.2
Crash 9
JoeJ 19.5
Brooks 1.1
Evans 1.5
Tele 5
Lopez CH 7.6
Humphries CH 12
4 capholds 1.9

Thanks for doing this. If I read this right, the Nets are at approx. $50mm plus your cap holds on Lopez and Humprhies. Given that you won't renounce Lopez, you are right at $58 million then before your MLE signing and Humphries cap hold.

So basically if you want Ersan Ilysova, you must sign and trade Humphries for him is what I'm seeing above.

Your welcome. But I don't think you understood my point though . Once you use the FullMLE (which you apparently are using for Tele) then your hardcapped at 74M (or 4M over the LuxTax if the SC goes up). So the way it is right now you're at about 62 with Lopez caphold. But once your hardcapped you have to fit Lopez full Contract under the apron. So say he gets 10M (will probably be more but for arguments sake) per year, so now youre at 65M. You're still missing a couple players though. So now you can't sign Ersan to anything that starts above 9M but that would then also mean using just 12 players where 4 of them are vetmin rookies. Basically you're whole rotation is 8 players (of which one is a sophomore, one is injury prone, one is a rookie from europe one just came back from an injury ridden season and one has to prove that he's not just a contractyear player) plus 4 unproven rookies.

I'm not sold on this approach but maybe I'm missing something? Oh and before I forget, obviously all TPE's that are still unused have to be waived at this point.

[Ronito]

So basically the only way you guys are getting Howard is if lopez wants to go to ORL, right?

LOL....you act like this is a problem lol.

when one team has bynum and one team has lopez, the team with lopez normally would lose.

And when the deal is hinging on Dwight signing long-term, and he doesn't want to go with one of the two?

[drejeronfire]

My calculation has the Nets at $70.3 million:

Deron Williams*: 17,391,300
Gerald Wallace*: 8,988,764
MarShon Brooks: 1,160,040
Mirza Teletovic*: 5,000,000
Reggie Evans*: 1,550,387
Joe Johnson: 18,038,573
Kris Humphries**: 12,000,000
Brook Lopez**: 6,153,966

*Estimate
**Cap Hold

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Forgot to include Nets remaining TPE's, Bi-Annual Exception, etc.

[ecuhus1981]

So basically the only way you guys are getting Howard is if lopez wants to go to ORL, right?

LOL....you act like this is a problem lol.

when one team has bynum and one team has lopez, the team with lopez normally would lose.

This is an over-simplified argument to a complex issue. Toe to toe on the basketball court, Bynum > Lopez. Not as much as some suggest, but Andrew is the better player. It's about more than that though, and here are the highlights:

1) DWIGHT HOWARD HAS BEEN QUOTED SAYING HE WILL NOT RE-SIGN WITH THE LAKERS, OR ANY TEAM OTHER THAN THE NETS.

1a) Bynum is an unrestricted FA in 2013, and ORL is believed to be demanding a pre-arranged extension before any Dwight/Andrew trade. Bynum might loathe LA enough to agree to it, but it seems he's licking his chops at the opportunity to test free agency.

2) ORL is demanding that any team that trades for Howard take on a long-term contract, either Turkoglu or Jason Richardson. Brooklyn has obliged, while LAL, swimming in the luxury, is staunchly opposed. The Lakers even want to shoehorn Metta World Peace into the deal, and I don't see ORL biting.

3) In addition to Lopez, NJN is offering a double-double machine (Humphries), a young SG prospect (Brooks), and 3 future 1sts. LAL has not mentioned any picks in their outgoing package, only Devin Ebanks. Besides, they owe their 2013 1st to CLE, so they could only give '15 and '17.

In summation,

Lopez + Humphries + Brooks + 3 1sts for Howard/Hedo

is WAAAAAAY better for the Magic than

Bynum + Peace + Ebanks for Howard

Even IF the Lakers were willing to send two 1sts and take on Hedo, I think our package is superior.

[N Ireland Nets]

Currently as is:

Deron 17.2
Crash 9
JoeJ 19.5
Brooks 1.1
Evans 1.5
Tele 5
Lopez CH 7.6
Humphries CH 12
4 capholds 1.9

Thanks for doing this. If I read this right, the Nets are at approx. $50mm plus your cap holds on Lopez and Humprhies. Given that you won't renounce Lopez, you are right at $58 million then before your MLE signing and Humphries cap hold.

So basically if you want Ersan Ilysova, you must sign and trade Humphries for him is what I'm seeing above.

Your welcome. But I don't think you understood my point though . Once you use the FullMLE (which you apparently are using for Tele) then your hardcapped at 74M (or 4M over the LuxTax if the SC goes up). So the way it is right now you're at about 62 with Lopez caphold. But once your hardcapped you have to fit Lopez full Contract under the apron. So say he gets 10M (will probably be more but for arguments sake) per year, so now youre at 65M. You're still missing a couple players though. So now you can't sign Ersan to anything that starts above 9M but that would then also mean using just 12 players where 4 of them are vetmin rookies. Basically you're whole rotation is 8 players (of which one is a sophomore, one is injury prone, one is a rookie from europe one just came back from an injury ridden season and one has to prove that he's not just a contractyear player) plus 4 unproven rookies.

I'm not sold on this approach but maybe I'm missing something? Oh and before I forget, obviously all TPE's that are still unused have to be waived at this point.

I agree and its confusing but there is no way King would sign Teletovic to the full MLE if he thought it meant it was impossible to get Howard.

The Nets caps guys believe they can do it and are still pushing for a trade, we're probably missing some info that would make us all understand because right now nobody outside the organisation understands fully whats going on

[paulpressey25]

So now you can't sign Ersan to anything that starts above 9M

I think the bigger point I've learned is that after the last 24 hours of moves, the Nets don't have the cap room to offer Ilysova anything unless the Bucks for some reason wanted to do a sign and trade.

But you guys don't have any decent assets to sign and trade since I can't see us wanting Humphries at this point, unless somehow you wanted to throw in Brooks or a first and I don't see you doing that.

[drejeronfire]

I wouldn't say the Nets have nothing to offer. Humphries and Ilyasova are essentially equivalent level impact players.

Depending on the team one is more useful than the other

Now the Bucks have spent some time developing Ersan so I would be surprised if they S&T him for Humphries unless they knew he would sign with a third team as a FA otherwise.

[drejeronfire]

Will clean it up fix it up, etc. later...

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[enetric]

So basically the only way you guys are getting Howard is if lopez wants to go to ORL, right?

LOL....you act like this is a problem lol.

when one team has bynum and one team has lopez, the team with lopez normally would lose.

And as soon as Dwight adds you to his list of teams he is willing to extend with...you have every right to talk your over inflated yak about Bynum who didnt fall over this year from his 10th injury on his 85 year old knees.

But until then...this is still a league where superstars tend to get what they want. But you would know all about superstars who cry like a bitch to get what they want right? You have the biggest bitch of the all. The Kobiatch.

[enetric]

I wouldn't say the Nets have nothing to offer. Humphries and Ilyasova are essentially equivalent level impact players.

Depending on the team one is more useful than the other

Now the Bucks have spent some time developing Ersan so I would be surprised if they S&T him for Humphries unless they knew he would sign with a third team as a FA otherwise.

Ilysova is better...period.