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Dwight is sticking to his GUNS...won't resign extension

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:22 am
by JohnnyBlazeBK
ESPN just reported....The agent for Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard refuted reports that his client has decided he will sign an extension with the Los Angeles Lakers -- if traded to them.

"Dwight's position has remained unchanged since the end of this past season," said Dan Fegan of LaGardere Unlimited. "He fully intends to explore free agency at the end of next season, regardless of what team trades for him, including Brooklyn." He is really sticking to his guns. That must be the power of Brooklyn. I luv it....Amazing... da saga keeps going on....

Re: Dwight is sticking to his GUNS...won't resign extension

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:54 am
by EGarrett
Yeah. He is hell-bent on coming here. I'm not sure why but I don't mind. :D

Re: Dwight is sticking to his GUNS...won't resign extension

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:04 am
by Basileus777
That's not saying anything really. Dwight is going to do what Deron did and not sign an early extension even if he's staying because it gives him the most money to wait.

Re: Dwight is sticking to his GUNS...won't resign extension

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:59 am
by Sharcm1
Yep. He isn't committing now. that is what he is saying. Doesn't mean that if he got traded to the lakers that he wouldn't re-sign at the end of the season with them. he just won't give them a commitment now. But I don't think the lakers want him to sign an extension now I think they just want his word that he will re-sign.

Re: Dwight is sticking to his GUNS...won't resign extension

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:13 pm
by Ballah
He's not signing an extension because the (Please Use More Appropriate Word) CBA makes it bad for players to do so, it has nothing to do with coming to Brooklyn. Hell, he even included you on the teams he wouldn't sign an extension for list.

Re: Dwight is sticking to his GUNS...won't resign extension

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:20 pm
by Rich Rane
Ballah wrote:He's not signing an extension because the (Please Use More Appropriate Word) CBA makes it bad for players to do so, it has nothing to do with coming to Brooklyn. Hell, he even included you on the teams he wouldn't sign an extension for list.


Posters here that don't care about this part...I'm going to guess 0. I don't think the Nets required an extension for a trade anyway.

Re: Dwight is sticking to his GUNS...won't resign extension

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:34 pm
by Ballah
There is nothing to care about, this is as non news as it gets. Might as well write an article about how hes not flushing millions down the toilet as we speak.

Re: Dwight is sticking to his GUNS...won't resign extension

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:37 pm
by N Ireland Nets
Ballah wrote:There is nothing to care about, this is as non news as it gets. Might as well write an article about how hes not flushing millions down the toilet as we speak.



Still trying to work out why your commenting on this thread

Re: Dwight is sticking to his GUNS...won't resign extension

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:08 pm
by Ballah
Why are you?

Re: Dwight is sticking to his GUNS...won't resign extension

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:27 pm
by tim2nyy
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Re: Dwight is sticking to his GUNS...won't resign extension

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:02 pm
by NyCeEvO
Ballah wrote:Why are you?

Oh look everyone, it's another outsider coming on to the Nets board to set us straight and tell us why something will/will not happen.

This is news no matter what anyone says.

It is significant that both Bynum and Howard's agents came out to set the record straight regarding both players involved in the matter.

Bynum does not have a list of places that he'd like to go to nor has his agent been approached about whether Bynum would accept an extension for a team he would be traded to.

D12 takes it a step further citing that he will not be signing an extension no matter which team he goes to.

Now, why is this significant for either player?

Two examples from this offseason can show why:

Deron Williams
Despite our optimism, D-Will was close to going to DAL. If it had not been for several seemingly reckless, but (in the end) worthwhile re-signings of Lopez and Wallace and a trade for JJ, D-Will would have been a Maverick.

Despite D-Will saying that he had the utmost confidence in BK's ability to acquire talent, he forced King to show it and prove it all the way to the last minute.

I for one actually believe Deron when he said that he really didn't care about a 5th year from the Nets, because that would mean he would be largely thinking about protecting financially protecting himself in the event of a career-ending injury and he said that he did not want to think like that. He kept re-iterating that his decision was a basketball decision.

I honestly believe that LBJ's decision ushered us into a new era of mentality of the NBA superstar.

They want to win at all costs even if it means losing out on money.

LBJ, Wade, and Bosh all sacrificed money to play together. In the history of the NBA, very few players sacrificed any (even if a little) money when making their decisions to play someplace.

Now, D-Will was on the verge of sacrificing money for the sake of putting himself in a position where he felt like he could win now and in the future.

These superstars are now playing out the life of their contracts and are prioritizing winning over money.

D12 almost canned Fegan because Fegan was trying to make sure that Dwight made his own decision when his contract was finished, but because Dwight let outsiders influence his decision making, he opted in and all hell has broken loose for all parties involved.

He's got a second chance to make a decision at the end of this season and you can basically guarantee that unless Dwight isn't really healthy when he hits free agency, he will make a basketball decision and go to where he thinks he can win.

2) Steve Nash
Who were the main suitors for Nash's services this offseason?

We all thought it was TOR and PHX because they had the cap space, as well as NYK if Nash wanted the full MLE to play on a team that was better than TOR/PHX.

Little did we know that the Lakers, a taxpaying team better than all aforementioned teams, would put in the winning bid by actually giving the Suns something that no one else thought to offer: draft picks for rebuilding.

While I know that there's a very high chance those draft picks won't pan out to any superstar player, at least the Suns received SOMETHING for Steve Nash.

In this case, Nash got to play for a team he wanted to play for and the Suns got something that they valued in return.

Even though the CBA will limit tax teams from S&T'ing for players, what this means is that if you want another teams star player, cap space isn't the only way to acquire them.

We've already seen both Cleveland and Toronto do this when they lost their star players, Denver and Utah did this prior to FA beginning for Melo and D-Will, PHX has done it, and the question is whether ORL will do it as well.

If you have a sense that your star is going to leave anyway, why not get something valuable in return and make another team worry about re-signing the player?

It may sound homerish because I'm a Nets fan but it makes the most sense for ORL to wait until January to consider trading Dwight and it's not just because that's when the Nets can re-join.

In January, teams will be most desperate to make a splash and ramp up for the postseason. Right now, teams are worried that Dwight can't even walk, so the asking price is low. If ORL waits until January, Dwight can build his value up again, Bynum can show whether he can maintain being healthy for more than a season, Lopez can prove that he's healthy enough to play, MarShon can show whether he is actually improving, etc.

Why trade for Cleveland's pick now when Cleveland could acquire Bynum and make other trades that would improve their record and make the pick that ORL thought would be lottery-bound worthless. Wait until January and make sure that Cleveland sucks and that they will be in the lottery before trading for the pick.

Make sure HOU's draft picks aren't just summer league stars but are actually showing promise when they hit the court.

All in all, this is news for both the Magic and other teams.

1) Don't underestimate NBA stars desire to win. It seems like more and more will sacrifice money in order to put themselves in a position to win. (e.g. D-Will)

2) Cap space is important, but so are draft picks and young players. Teams that have stars but who want to get rid of them can take deals for them and teams who don't have the cap space but have other assets can drive up the bidding price for such stars. (e.g. PHX & Nash)

Re: Dwight is sticking to his GUNS...won't resign extension

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:19 pm
by enetric
I am just hoping Bynum doesnt extend for LA this summer either. I like the idea of LA not being able to trade him with a guaranteed contract.

If we roll into 1/15 people can yap about Brook's contract all they want. The security of having 3 years 48 mil remaining over the uncertainty of trying to convince Bynum into 5 for 98 mil? Thats a no brainer. To me with Bynum, that's damned if you do damned if you dont...and this is for the NBA's most injury prone player.

Re: Dwight is sticking to his GUNS...won't resign extension

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:06 pm
by N Ireland Nets
enetric wrote:I am just hoping Bynum doesnt extend for LA this summer either. I like the idea of LA not being able to trade him with a guaranteed contract.

If we roll into 1/15 people can yap about Brook's contract all they want. The security of having 3 years 48 mil remaining over the uncertainty of trying to convince Bynum into 5 for 98 mil? Thats a no brainer. To me with Bynum, that's damned if you do damned if you dont...and this is for the NBA's most injury prone player.


It really does boil down to this. If Bynum does extend, the Lakers will eventually find a deal acceptable for the Magic with some third team in the league involved.

Without that extension he's a major risk for any team that isn't a potential contender. I'm just hoping his agent stays strong and keeps him on the straight an narrow because he would be on the same boat of having to opt out before re-signing with the Lakers for the most money.

If I was Andrew Bynum, why would I risk being traded at all?

I've got a great shot at a ring for the next 2 or 3 years while living the life in LA. Why would you throw that away to go and play on a lesser team with no chance of being anywhere near a title?

I still say this goes all the way to the trade deadline

Re: Dwight is sticking to his GUNS...won't resign extension

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:18 pm
by NyCeEvO
I don't think Bynum really cares about winning to be honest.

He's done interviews where he has literally said "I don't care where I play".

The guy just seems to be all about himself. The one thing I think that could keep him from wanting to go to another team is being able to stay in LA. I know he likes the LA weather and lifestyle so that is a plus but the guy just has a 'don't care' attitude, I wouldn't be surprised if he actually wanted to go to Orlando so that he can just get his buckets, put up stats on a bad roster and making allstar appearances.

Re: Dwight is sticking to his GUNS...won't resign extension

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:00 pm
by Shaheen
Why would Bynum extend?
Can't he get a 5 year 98 million dollar deal in the off season?

Neither of these players are not going to extend. It doesn't make any sense to.
At least with Lopez you know you have him long term. And if the Lakers or Nets trade for Dwight they pretty much know he will resign.
Because he wants to be there.

Overall, there is no way this doesn't extend till the deadline.

The notion that the Magic have to trade him before the season is wrong because Dwight is injured. He's gonna have to sit out until like December anyway. And even when he is ready to come back he can just fake it till the deadline.

IMO Magic will wait till the deadline for the best possible offer and deal him. No way they trade him in the summer anymore. They would have done it already. And no way they let him walk. I just don't see that happening.

Re: Dwight is sticking to his GUNS...won't resign extension

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:03 pm
by Shaheen
NyCeEvO wrote:I don't think Bynum really cares about winning to be honest.

He's done interviews where he has literally said "I don't care where I play".

The guy just seems to be all about himself. The one thing I think that could keep him from wanting to go to another team is being able to stay in LA. I know he likes the LA weather and lifestyle so that is a plus but the guy just has a 'don't care' attitude, I wouldn't be surprised if he actually wanted to go to Orlando so that he can just get his buckets, put up stats on a bad roster and making allstar appearances.


I don't think Bynum cares about winning. I do think he cares about where he plays.

This is the immature kids who has spent the last 7 years as a millionaire in LA. IMO he does not want to play in a city like Cleveland or Orlando.

He is gonna want to stay in LA or go to Dallas. A big market where he can have fun. No way he is going to want to stay in Orlando. The extra year of his contract is not that big of a deal because of his age. He can sign a four year contract and still be under 30 before he gets his next one.

Re: Dwight is sticking to his GUNS...won't resign extension

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:55 am
by Ronito
Bynum doesn't want to leave L.A., he knows where all the handicapped parking spots are.

Re: Dwight is sticking to his GUNS...won't resign extension

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:12 am
by enetric
Wow! That was good. Bazinga!

Re: Dwight is sticking to his GUNS...won't resign extension

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:20 am
by AnaheimRoyale
And to think, people were wondering why Ratner (the bad guy) insisted on moving to NY...

Re: Dwight is sticking to his GUNS...won't resign extension

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:28 am
by enetric
No one ever got a worse deal that Ratner. Through seasons where seats were half empty he ran payroll right at the cap not way under it as some media falsely lead us to believe. In fact we went into most seasons slightly over and trimmed at the deadline.

Sure at the time of team purchase he was pushed into not matching on Kmart by investors. But that trade led to Vince Carter so no one should have complained. And yes we did sell a couple of picks. But, Kidd got a max contract, RJ and VC were both re-upped. Rod Thorn backed off SAR due to doctor reports and Rod knew when it was time to rebuild. It wasnt a fire sale the way it is portrayed.

Ratner deserves applause for what he did for this franchise. Not hate.