Official Teletovic Thread

[nykballa2k4]

Hey, as you all know, fantasy basketball season is near and approaching. I remember hearing a lot of hype about new power forward Mirza Teletovic, but I actually know very little about his game.

His statistics, at a glance make him look like Tim Thomas.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mirza-Teletovic-185/stats/

Also got some tidbits from the following:

"As stated before, Teltovic is a high volume scorer, which was shown this summer when he was the second highest scorer in the Eurobasket Qualifying Tournament. Projected to start at power forward for the Nets, there are no worries about how Teletovic will contribute offensively. Teletovic has a variety of ways to score, like all natural scorers. Unlike last year when teams sagged off of Kris Humphries, opposing teams will have to respect Teletovic’s jump shot as far out to the three point line (shot 42% last season in Europe). And although he is not too skilled defensively or rebounding-wise, Teletovic’s offensive game overrides his weaknesses. Many NBA scouts claim it only takes one extraordinary ability to become a good player in this league, and for Teletovic, that ability is scoring."
Read more at http://www.rantsports.com/nba/2012/09/13/mirza-teletovic-brooklyn-nets-player-outlook-2012-2013/?6bkucVfdwptcOr6B.99

I figured I would make this thread because I am considering a perimeter big like him a huge fantasy asset. If he is good for 2 3's a game, and about 14 points 5 boards as a starter, he could be a nice reserve.

What do you guys project for him? Will he start or did Kris earn that?

Any added information on him would be helpful. Thank you.

[DarkXaero]

Seems to be a really talented offensive player. Not just as a one dimensional 3 point threat, but someone who has legit post moves, can finish inside (he's pretty athletic), and a good passer of the ball. Defense and rebounding are the question marks. Also, since he is a reserve, we don't know how many minutes he will get and whether he will be the #1 scoring option off the bench. (since Brooks, Blatche, and CJ Watson will come off the bench too)

[vincecarter4pres]

I don't want to keep replying ITT on your board, but people still don't get it.

Dude says I'm an antagonist and a troll because our opinions differ, insults the **** out of me and keeps disrespecting me.

I don't care about that, it's the internet and it's really not that ill, I just am big on irony and that **** was amazing lol.

Moocow doesn't get it either.

He agrees that all we did was add Joe Johnson to a 21 win team and says how it's absurd to think the Nets can be good or challenge the Knicks. He then replies to me all brand new instead of addressing what he has agreed with and talked of with other posters that I made obvious I was addressing and instead just goes in on the Nets haha. Like dude, you're having a little reading comprehension and bait and switch problem right bout now lol.

And you, I don't even know man, but you are an amazing troll at times and I'm not sure if you realize you're doing it or you're on a NetsForce level, just without his sarcastic humor.

Whatever man.


Anywho, on topic...

First I heard he's projected as the starter, but I could see it. I think he's going to have to earn that through training camp and preseason though and doubt they would bring a $12 million a year player off the bench this year before the trade deadline passes.

I've only seen limited game tape on him consisting of Youtube and one game I caught on stream.

His release is lightening quick though and the guy comes off screens like Ray Allen, it's quite scary for a big man.

He's got some dribble drive abilities and rumor is he had a post game once upon a time in a land far away, pun fully intended.

He's an interesting player and if he winds up a legit starter or a fringe All Star type, or God forbid a star, at about $3 million a year for 3 years, also meaning full Bird Rights to resign, man oh man.

We'll see though, he might be a Boki Nachbar like semi-bust.

[PetroNet]

I think he is going to be an extremely consistent, explosive scorer. someone they wont be able to keep out of the starting lineup as much as im sure they want to start humphries due to his salary.

the guy isnt ryan anderson. he can do alot more then spot up. he is like hamilton/miller/allen moving without the ball. his bbiq is through the roof when it comes to getting or creating open shots and space. he certainly can get in spots where he takes bad shots, but overall, he gets wherever he needs to be on the court. he can drive, he can post, he can shoot it short and long, and he plays with confidence and a mean streak.

he isnt klieze or nachbar. guy is an assassin. at somepoint, for someone, he is going to be a 22+ ppg guy. the league the way it is played now just plays to his strengths. i can see him doing real damage at the 5 in a small lineup

[Paradise]

I don't want to keep replying ITT on your board, but people still don't get it.

Dude says I'm an antagonist and a troll because our opinions differ, insults the **** out of me and keeps disrespecting me.

I don't care about that, it's the internet and it's really not that ill, I just am big on irony and that **** was amazing lol.

Moocow doesn't get it either.

He agrees that all we did was add Joe Johnson to a 21 win team and says how it's absurd to think the Nets can be good or challenge the Knicks. He then replies to me all brand new instead of addressing what he has agreed with and talked of with other posters that I made obvious I was addressing and instead just goes in on the Nets haha. Like dude, you're having a little reading comprehension and bait and switch problem right bout now lol.

And you, I don't even know man, but you are an amazing troll at times and I'm not sure if you realize you're doing it or you're on a NetsForce level, just without his sarcastic humor.

Whatever man.

ITT as in, ITGM?

Anywho, on topic...

First I heard he's projected as the starter, but I could see it. I think he's going to have to earn that through training camp and preseason though and doubt they would bring a $12 million a year player off the bench this year before the trade deadline passes.

I've only seen limited game tape on him consisting of Youtube and one game I caught on stream.

His release is lightening quick though and the guy comes off screens like Ray Allen, it's quite scary for a big man.

He's got some dribble drive abilities and rumor is he had a post game once upon a time in a land far away, pun fully intended.

He's an interesting player and if he winds up a legit starter or a fringe All Star type, or God forbid a star, at about $3 million a year for 3 years, also meaning full Bird Rights to resign, man oh man.

We'll see though, he might be a Boki Nachbar like semi-bust.

This.

If Mirz can play SF then that changes the swing of things but as of right now, offensively he will be great to watch but defensively, I have little faith in him. He just seems like a Kleiza/Nachbar player to me with Ryan Anderson like shooting range.

[PetroNet]

If Mirz can play SF then that changes the swing of things but as of right now, offensively he will be great to watch but defensively, I have little faith in him. He just seems like a Kleiza/Nachbar player to me with Ryan Anderson like shooting range.

why would you want him at the 3 when he excels at post defense but lacks quickness? he is very shifty/crafty on offense, but he isnt a speedy guy. putting him at the wing wouldnt make much sense, other then getting a cross matchup where he could abuse a smaller guy in the post.

he is a true 4. he has the size and the strength. and with his skill he is a mismatch on offense against most other 4's. calling him ryan anderson is nonsense. being white and shooting 3's as a PF doesn make you ryan anderson. he is a much better offensive player overall. his movement without the ball isnt something you can just teach. and he has a legit post game, but just the herky jerky stuff anderson does once in a while

i suggest you watch all of his games from the past 2 seasons, you can find all of them online, most in their entirety. i was cautiously optomistic until a poster here linked me to his games. i gaurantee once you see 100% of his sample, you will change your mind

[nykballa2k4]

If Mirz can play SF then that changes the swing of things but as of right now, offensively he will be great to watch but defensively, I have little faith in him. He just seems like a Kleiza/Nachbar player to me with Ryan Anderson like shooting range.

why would you want him at the 3 when he excels at post defense but lacks quickness? he is very shifty/crafty on offense, but he isnt a speedy guy. putting him at the wing wouldnt make much sense, other then getting a cross matchup where he could abuse a smaller guy in the post.

he is a true 4. he has the size and the strength. and with his skill he is a mismatch on offense against most other 4's. calling him ryan anderson is nonsense. being white and shooting 3's as a PF doesn make you ryan anderson. he is a much better offensive player overall. his movement without the ball isnt something you can just teach. and he has a legit post game, but just the herky jerky stuff anderson does once in a while

i suggest you watch all of his games from the past 2 seasons, you can find all of them online, most in their entirety. i was cautiously optomistic until a poster here linked me to his games. i gaurantee once you see 100% of his sample, you will change your mind

From what you guys are saying I am sort of envisioning Maurice Taylor with more range. You say post defense, but that is tough to gauge with his previous league play no?

@VC4Prez:
I do have a sarcastic streak, and as I mentioned, on the GB I get defensive minded, so I will relentlessly take the opposite opinion of the star-loving masses. My favorite "trolling" was when I brought up head to head stats of David Lee vs Blake Griffin. Seriously, their head to head matchups SO FAR Lee has beaten Blake, but that is a tangent.

I really would like to know some of the more "troll" comments you are mentioning. Mainly because I want to be able to see if those were jokes taken the wrong way, or if I need to adjust the tint on my glasses.

About the Knicks forum... yeah... it is tough to have a convo there because there are a ton of posters, 4 or more active dialogues etc. Rather than worry about what the nutjobs (all forums have them, some people probably consider me one, bless their hearts). Once you learn who they are, foes list, and you are good to go.

Back on topic oncemore though. In a fg%, ft%, 3PM, points, rebounds, steals assists blocks h2h, what are some values you'd hope/expect to see from Tele?

Do you know for sure that his range will project on NBA lines or will he be more like Kurt Thomas range?

[PetroNet]

Back on topic oncemore though. In a fg%, ft%, 3PM, points, rebounds, steals assists blocks h2h, what are some values you'd hope/expect to see from Tele?

its hard to predict his raw stats because we dont know how many minutes he will play to start. but id guess for the percentages 50/40/75 area once he gets consitent big minutes.

Do you know for sure that his range will project on NBA lines or will he be more like Kurt Thomas range?

his range is unlimited. id compare it dan majerle

[jeff1624]

I expect him to prove his worth throughout the season and supplant Humphries as our starting PF as soon as next season.

[nykballa2k4]

I expect him to prove his worth throughout the season and supplant Humphries as our starting PF as soon as next season.

Would you want to replace your primary source of rebounds like that though? I mean it is possible that your best lineup will be:
Humphires
Teletovic
Wallace
Johnson
Deron
??

[PetroNet]

I expect him to prove his worth throughout the season and supplant Humphries as our starting PF as soon as next season.

Would you want to replace your primary source of rebounds like that though? I mean it is possible that your best lineup will be:
Humphires
Teletovic
Wallace
Johnson
Deron
??

teletovic could average 9-10 rebounds per game if he got starters minutes on this team. i also see lopez returning to 8 rpg he had when he was last healthy. with wallace chipping in and a bench of hump/evans, i dont see rebounding being an issue at all.

and no lineup with lopez on the bench would be our best lineup. we are better with him on the floor, period. to say otherwise is an enormous troll job

[jeff1624]

I expect him to prove his worth throughout the season and supplant Humphries as our starting PF as soon as next season.

Would you want to replace your primary source of rebounds like that though? I mean it is possible that your best lineup will be:
Humphires
Teletovic
Wallace
Johnson
Deron
??

There's something every non-nets fan needs to understand. Humphries isn't on Lopez'. The fact that some people actually believe this astonishes me. So no, we're not a better team with Humphries starting at Center instead of Lopez.

As for the rebounding woes... I'm one of the few that doesn't think lopez is Bargnani 2.0 on the boards. While he'll never be a double digit rebounder, he can pull in 8-9 boards a game if he's completely healthy and isn't relied on to score/have the ball on every possession. We also have a better rebounding team with Wallace as the starting SF so the days of us being badly out rebounded (even without Humphries) are over.

[deepblueday]

imma lmao opening night when brook goes for 28 and tyson plays 25 foul plagued minutes

[nykballa2k4]

teletovic could average 9-10 rebounds per game if he got starters minutes on this team. i also see lopez returning to 8 rpg he had when he was last healthy. with wallace chipping in and a bench of hump/evans, i dont see rebounding being an issue at all.

and no lineup with lopez on the bench would be our best lineup. we are better with him on the floor, period. to say otherwise is an enormous troll job

Lopez at 8 rebounds per game would be nice for you guy. My point is if Lopez is averaging 22 ppg, and 6 rpg we both know Avery Johnson will get pissed off and make a change. I'm sure if Amare is averaging 16 ppg and 5 rpg, he might get benched too. I am not expecting Lopez to do anything to warrant being benched.

So Teletovic might be grabbing about 8 boards a game?

[jeff1624]

Avery would need to be out of his mind to bench lopez and start Humphries at the 5. That's like benching 'Melo and starting Novak because he's a better three point shooter. Doesn't make a lick of sense.

As for Teletovic, who knows how many boards he'll grab.

[PetroNet]

Lopez at 8 rebounds per game would be nice for you guy. My point is if Lopez is averaging 22 ppg, and 6 rpg we both know Avery Johnson will get pissed off and make a change. I'm sure if Amare is averaging 16 ppg and 5 rpg, he might get benched too. I am not expecting Lopez to do anything to warrant being benched.

why would you bench a center who is scoring 22ppg(who would probably be your leading scorer in that scenario)? that makes no sense. i also find it extremely unlikely if brook is healthy. as he has been an 8+ rpg player in his healthy seasons.

So Teletovic might be grabbing about 8 boards a game?

as a starter playing 30-35 minutes id be shocked if he didnt.

either way, as deepblue put it, we have plenty of rebounding on this team with lopez, hump, crash, evans, and teletovic along with 2 bigger gaurds. reboudning wont be an issue.

[N Ireland Nets]

I still believe Teletovic will be our starting PF in the not so distant future because he can defend and grab rebounds. Plus he's just a far superior basketball player compared to Hump.

[NyCeEvO]

I still believe Teletovic will be our starting PF in the not so distant future because he can defend and grab rebounds. Plus he's just a far superior basketball player compared to Hump.

I agree.

Btw, where have you been lol?

[Born_Ready]

I can't sit here and pretend that I know a lot about Teletovic, other than what I have seen on youtube and reading up on him. It's going take some time for me to make an adequate assessment with his limited NBA experience right now.

I do expect him to add a different dynamic that we haven't seen in sometime, maybe ever, with his ability to attack the basketball off the dribble, post-up, creating his won shot, etc,. The potential is there, it's just going to take a few games to see if he is indeed ready to make a smooth enough transition in a league full of superstars imho.

[jerseyjac]

Radmanovic + Stojakovic + Petrovic = Teletovic

a little something from each, at least thats my hope...