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OT- Grantland Article on the 'Kobe Assist'

Posted: Thu Dec 6, 2012 11:23 pm
by NyCeEvO
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/871 ... obe-assist

It's somewhat of a long read but I think it's definitely worth it.

It kinda touches on a little debate I had with Ronito with the importance of stats vs. video.

Often times, generic basketball stats don't capture the full essence or meaning of what actually goes on in the game and you can actually see during the video. As this article shows, through the use of more advanced stats, you can not only see why the best players are the "best" but you can also see how beneficial they are to the overall team.

Most superstar players get to the lane at will and not only get a lot of close buckets, but they also get a lot of free throws. This article even puts into perspective how even missing close shots can actually not be so bad after all. For example, it's better to miss a close shot than far jumper because it's statistically proven that the offensive team has a better chance of grabbing your missed layup than your long jumper, which then provides you a fresh new shot clock or an easy put back layup.

Yeah, so you know those star players who don't want to attack the basket cuz it's not "their game"? Yeah, they need to start attacking....cough oe ohnson cough cough.

Re: OT- Grantland Article on the 'Kobe Assist'

Posted: Thu Dec 6, 2012 11:29 pm
by Ronito
Have already read it. #Sabermetrics rule the day once again.

I recommend this piece for the people who want Josh Smith on this team: http://courtvisionanalytics.com/the-lon ... osh-smith/

Re: OT- Grantland Article on the 'Kobe Assist'

Posted: Thu Dec 6, 2012 11:44 pm
by NyCeEvO
^^Good stuff on that Josh Smith article.

If he could only stay in the paint...

Re: OT- Grantland Article on the 'Kobe Assist'

Posted: Fri Dec 7, 2012 1:46 am
by Paradise
To be fair, Joe is attacking but he misses way too much at the rim. He needs to go up stronger and get contact.

Re: OT- Grantland Article on the 'Kobe Assist'

Posted: Fri Dec 7, 2012 2:05 am
by NyCeEvO
Yeah, I think it's absolutely pitiful that a guy with his strength and talent level cant even get to the line 1/2 as much as Lopez, who is not even that aggressive. You never see that fire out of him that you see out of the rest of the starting 5 at times. I cant think of a top player in the league that shows less emotion and who has the same demeanor when he scores 3 points as when he scores 30points. Sometimes it just makes me wonder if he's in the NBA cuz he has a true passion for basketball or does he like other things more.

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Re: OT- Grantland Article on the 'Kobe Assist'

Posted: Fri Dec 7, 2012 2:42 am
by BlueDawn
Long shots = Long rebounds = More of a chance the other team has for a fast break.

Re: OT- Grantland Article on the 'Kobe Assist'

Posted: Fri Dec 7, 2012 3:21 am
by NyCeEvO
BlueDawn wrote:Long shots = Long rebounds = More of a chance the other team has for a fast break.

That's true but the analogy that close shots = higher chance for off.reb =higher chance at getting pts for your possession, is the more accurate equation that it's referring to.

Pair a good offensive rebounder with a guy that attacks the basket at will and you'll probably have more possessions than the opponent on most nights.

This is precisely why someone like Varejao would have a very big effect on almosy any team.
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Re: OT- Grantland Article on the 'Kobe Assist'

Posted: Fri Dec 7, 2012 5:09 am
by BlueDawn
I understand, I'm just agreeing...in my own words haha.