How The Nets Get Dwight Howard During The Summer

DWILLoftheGODZ · Post #1 » by **DWILLoftheGODZ** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:17 pm

The Dwightmare never dies. I think we can still find a way to get Dwight Howard this offseason. Here is the Math that lands the Nets the big fish they covet.

Currently as it stands, the Nets have $85.5 mil commited in salary next year.

Johnson $21,466,718
D Will $18,466,130
Lopez $14,693,906
Hump $12,000,000
Wallace $10,105,855
Teletovic $3,229,050
Evans $1,695,635
Brooks $1,210,080
Toko $788,872
Taylor $788,872

Getting rid of JJ
The First hurdle they would need to overcome is getting rid of Joe Johnson. During the trade deadline Boston expressed interest in trading Paul Pierce for him. Nets find a 3rd team to make salaries match

Nets: Pierce, 2nd round pick Boston, 6.1 mil TE
Celts: Johnson
Blazers: Fab Melo

Pierces contract is only guaranteed at $5 mil so the nets can waive him and clear $16,466,718 from their salary obligation for next year. That takes next year salary down to $69.09 mil

Getting rid of Hump
The next step invloves getting rid of Hump. Hump is scheduled to make $12 mil next year. The Cavs are known to be renting their cap space for next year for a contract like Humps that doesnt go into the summer of Lebron.

Nets: Casspi, Speights, Miles, 4.08 TE
Cavs: Hump, Toko, Nets 1st rounder

Casspi and Miles have no guaranteed contract and Speights is likely to opt out of his contract. This clears another $12 mil off of our cap bringing next year down to $57.09 mil

Getting rid of Crash

Getting rid of is impossible via trade he need to be stretched. The Nets stretch his $10.1 mil down to $2.02 mil and save $8.08 mil. This takes next years salary down to $49 mil

Getting rid of Tele and Brooks

This is an easy trade.

Nets: Rip Hamilton, 1st round pick, 2 2nd round pick
Bulls: Tele, Brooks

The Bulls want a stretch 4 and a SG. Check and Check. Hamilton's $5 mil contract is completely non guaranteed. The Nets are down to $44 mil for next year.

Getting rid of Evans , Watson and Taylor

Another easy trade. Most teams would take these contracts

Nets: 2nd round pick, 3.6 mil TE
Spurs: Evans, Watson, Taylor

This brings the Nets down to $42 mil in Salary and enough $ to sign Dwight without losing DWill or Lopez. The Lakers would probably prefer to do a sign and trade so they dont let Dwight walk for nothing. I believe the Nets would be able to keep their TEs to help fill in the roster around them. Im painting with very broad strokes here but the simple math works.

PetroNet · Post #2 » by **PetroNet** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:21 pm

DWILLoftheGODZ wrote:
Getting rid of JJ
The First hurdle they would need to overcome is getting rid of Joe Johnson. During the trade deadline Boston expressed interest in trading Paul Pierce for him. Nets find a 3rd team to make salaries match

stopped reading here. 0 chance of happening. boston isnt trading pierce as an expiring to take on long horrible money. its the same boat as it was with us and humphries. this year hump was giant negative in trades, now he will be a big positive. same with pierce... a solid veteran on a large expiring with a buyout. they can do alot better then JJ on an awful contract.

Also, you ignore cap holds in your post.

PetroNet · Post #3 » by **PetroNet** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:23 pm

also... if your plan works and we clear the roster down to dwill and lopez.... what if the lakers dont trade him to us. then we are stuck with the same 22 win roster we had, only with an older injured dwill.

and thats ignoring that those trade are all super unrealsitic

DWILLoftheGODZ · Post #4 » by **DWILLoftheGODZ** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:24 pm

What does this leave the Nets

C- Lopez
PF- Dwight, Blatche (Bi Annual Exception)
SF - Bogdanovic (MLE)
SG - Bogans (Vet Min)
PG - D Will

We would use the TEs we recieved above to flesh out the bench

DWILLoftheGODZ · Post #5 » by **DWILLoftheGODZ** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:25 pm

PetroNet wrote:
DWILLoftheGODZ wrote:
Getting rid of JJ
The First hurdle they would need to overcome is getting rid of Joe Johnson. During the trade deadline Boston expressed interest in trading Paul Pierce for him. Nets find a 3rd team to make salaries match

stopped reading here. 0 chance of happening. boston isnt trading pierce as an expiring to take on long horrible money. its the same boat as it was with us and humphries. this year hump was giant negative in trades, now he will be a big positive. same with pierce... a solid veteran on a large expiring with a buyout. they can do alot better then JJ on an awful contract.

Also, you ignore cap holds in your post.

According to reports, Boston contacted the Nets about JJs availiblity. If KG and Pierce retire then this makes alot of sense for Boston

Post #6 » by **NyCeEvO** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:26 pm

BOS was not interested in taking back JJ for Pierce.

The reported offer was PP for Hump, Brooks, a Eurostash, and 2 future firsts.

DWILLoftheGODZ · Post #7 » by **DWILLoftheGODZ** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:27 pm

PetroNet wrote:also... if your plan works and we clear the roster down to dwill and lopez.... what if the lakers dont trade him to us. then we are stuck with the same 22 win roster we had, only with an older injured dwill.

and thats ignoring that those trade are all super unrealsitic

What makes them unrealistic exactly?

This is what Miami did when the formed the big 3.

DWILLoftheGODZ · Post #8 » by **DWILLoftheGODZ** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:28 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:BOS was not interested in taking back JJ for Pierce.

The reported offer was PP for Hump, Brooks, a Eurostash, and 2 future firsts.

Your wrong. They called and asked for one of our top 3 players. Dwill, Lopez or JJ.

PetroNet · Post #9 » by **PetroNet** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:31 pm

DWILLoftheGODZ wrote:
PetroNet wrote:
DWILLoftheGODZ wrote:
Getting rid of JJ
The First hurdle they would need to overcome is getting rid of Joe Johnson. During the trade deadline Boston expressed interest in trading Paul Pierce for him. Nets find a 3rd team to make salaries match

stopped reading here. 0 chance of happening. boston isnt trading pierce as an expiring to take on long horrible money. its the same boat as it was with us and humphries. this year hump was giant negative in trades, now he will be a big positive. same with pierce... a solid veteran on a large expiring with a buyout. they can do alot better then JJ on an awful contract.

Also, you ignore cap holds in your post.

According to reports, Boston contacted the Nets about JJs availiblity. If KG and Pierce retire then this makes alot of sense for Boston

and the hawks wanted marshon in the joe johnson deal... didnt help much when we offered crap for josh smith. (which i believe you said we were in the driver seat on before they decided nothing was better then getting humphries).

if pierce and KG retire(which would both be shockers) the celtics would be idiotic to start a rebuild with joe johnson, a guy turning 32 with a long bad contract who doesnt help you win now or in the future for them

Post #10 » by **NyCeEvO** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:37 pm

DWILLoftheGODZ wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:BOS was not interested in taking back JJ for Pierce.

The reported offer was PP for Hump, Brooks, a Eurostash, and 2 future firsts.

Your wrong. They called and asked for one of our top 3 players. Dwill, Lopez or JJ.

No they didn't. I heard that rumor too but it was BS.

And don't say I'm wrong if you're not willing to put in the research to make sure I'm wrong. These were the true details of what BOS called about:

Fred Kerber @FredKerber

Source sed #Celtics called #BrooklynNets re PPierce & asked 4 lots: MBrooks, MTeletovic, KHumphries & two future 1st rounders

Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports reports that the Brooklyn Nets and Boston Celtics have discussed a trade that would send Boston Celtics forward Paul Pierce to the Brooklyn Nets, with the Nets offering Kris Humphries, MarShon Brooks, and a first-round draft pick. The Celtics apparently want a "more substantial" package, requesting forward Mirza Teletovic and potentially another pick, but the Nets balked at paying that price.

via http://thebrooklyngame.com/brooklyn-net ... ul-pierce/

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Latest Y! Sports NBA Trade Deadline Buzz: Boston, Brooklyn discuss Paul Pierce. http://tinyurl.com/aqr2xrv

The Boston Celtics and Brooklyn Nets have discussed a trade for Celtics star Paul Pierce, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

The Nets' willingness to a deal centered on forward Kris Humphries, guard MarShon Brooks and a first-round draft pick, but the Celtics want a more substantial package to consider moving Pierce, league sources said.

"The Celtics still highly value Pierce and it wouldn't make sense to trade him for that kind of a package if they're keeping Kevin Garnett," one league source said.

Boston has shown interest in forward Mirza Teletovic and securing another possible first-round pick, but the Nets have shown no inclination to pay that steep of a price for Pierce.

via http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--nba-t ... nM-;_ylv=3

DWILLoftheGODZ · Post #11 » by **DWILLoftheGODZ** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:38 pm

PetroNet wrote:

and the hawks wanted marshon in the joe johnson deal... didnt help much when we offered crap for josh smith. (which i believe you said we were in the driver seat on before they decided nothing was better then getting humphries).

if pierce and KG retire(which would both be shockers) the celtics would be idiotic to start a rebuild with joe johnson, a guy turning 32 with a long bad contract who doesnt help you win now or in the future for them

We were in the drivers seat. Atlanta pulled an Orlando. BK overvalued our 1st round draft picks. I would easily give up 2 1st rounders that are likely to be in the mid to late 20s to get Smith.

Maybe part of BKs reasoning is that he plans on one last run at Dwight. If we wait until draft night, then we can trade consecutive picks. We would draft this years pick for whichever team we are trading with and then send them next years pick.

If Pierce and KG retire the Celtics arent REBUILDING, they will RELOAD. Their fan base doesnt have the patience to rebuild.

PetroNet · Post #12 » by **PetroNet** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:42 pm

DWILLoftheGODZ wrote:
PetroNet wrote:also... if your plan works and we clear the roster down to dwill and lopez.... what if the lakers dont trade him to us. then we are stuck with the same 22 win roster we had, only with an older injured dwill.

and thats ignoring that those trade are all super unrealsitic

What makes them unrealistic exactly?

- the joe johnson trade is not realistic for the reasons i already outlined. this would be the worst trade in celtics history. and im not even using hyperbole there. it would legit be the worst trade their franchise has made. trading a large expiring with a buyout for a 32 year old owed like 60 million, in a situation where they would be rebuilding. and the blazers are going to help facilitate this to get fab melo?

- the cavs have enough money to offer a max contract or 2 large contract this summer along with the pick assets to bring back a great player in a trade. they will certainly be in the running for millsap or possibly smith and have a nice core to attract lebron if he opts out. why change all of that and take on humps expiring contract? they have plenty of picks and cap space. the last thing they need is expirings and mid first rounders

- the spurs are NOT trading for 2 point gaurds when they have Parker, De colo, neal, and mills all under contract next season. no need to carry 6 point gaurds just to get a second rounder.

- The bulls are going to give up 3 picks for marshon brooks, who apperantly no one has any interest in, and teletovic? why in the world would they do that? to get a stretch 4? teams heavily over the cap and pushing the tax line dont give up picks and take on salary to get marginal pieces to their success. especially ungauranteed 2nd round picks which help them in tax situations

PetroNet · Post #13 » by **PetroNet** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:44 pm

DWILLoftheGODZ wrote:If Pierce and KG retire the Celtics arent REBUILDING, they will RELOAD. Their fan base doesnt have the patience to rebuild.

i guess you missed the 90's?

MrDollarBills · Post #14 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:02 pm

We are not getting Dwight Howard, OR getting rid of Johnson's horrible contract.

cs hauser · Post #15 » by **cs hauser** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:05 pm

PetroNet wrote:
DWILLoftheGODZ wrote:If Pierce and KG retire the Celtics arent REBUILDING, they will RELOAD. Their fan base doesnt have the patience to rebuild.

i guess you missed the 90's?

Baasd on the content of this thread, it's safe to assume DWILLoftheGODZ wasn't even alive in the '90s.

Hello Brooklyn · Post #16 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:13 pm

We are NEVER getting rid of Joe Johnson's contract.

Or Gerald Wallace's for that matter.

Dwight destroyed his chances to come here, when he waived his ETO. No one to blame but himself.

And I think it worked out for the best.

HelloBrooklyn · Post #17 » by **HelloBrooklyn** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:26 pm

Considering that Stephen A. Smith's source is true that Dwight still believes that he is still going to BK, can he still do a sign and trade to force his way in Brooklyn? For example, he can tell the Lakers that he will not resign with them this off-season and the only way they will get value for him is if he was sign and traded to Brooklyn or else he signs with the Mavs or ATL.

Pen Island · Post #18 » by **Pen Island** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:35 pm

HelloBrooklyn wrote:Considering that Stephen A. Smith's source is true that Dwight still believes that he is still going to BK, can he still do a sign and trade to force his way in Brooklyn? For example, he can tell the Lakers that he will not resign with them this off-season and the only way they will get value for him is if he was sign and traded to Brooklyn or else he signs with the Mavs or ATL.

We are too far over the cap. Gutting this team for Dwight is not going to happen.

HelloBrooklyn · Post #19 » by **HelloBrooklyn** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:44 am

Pen Island wrote:
HelloBrooklyn wrote:Considering that Stephen A. Smith's source is true that Dwight still believes that he is still going to BK, can he still do a sign and trade to force his way in Brooklyn? For example, he can tell the Lakers that he will not resign with them this off-season and the only way they will get value for him is if he was sign and traded to Brooklyn or else he signs with the Mavs or ATL.

We are too far over the cap. Gutting this team for Dwight is not going to happen.

I'm not saying I want it to happen I was just thinking of realistic ideas that can happen like maybe Crash and Brook for Dwight and filler

NjNeTs1029 · Post #20 » by **NjNeTs1029** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:10 am

We're not getting rid of Joe Johnson. And nobody is going to take Wallace's dumbass contract.