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What it is Nets Fans? Been a Nets Fan since the Vince Carter (VC3!!!!!) days. I'm more of a basketball fan rather than a team itself but if you ask me who I go for year in and out I'll say the Nets.

So I was reading this article in a magazine the other day about the worst trades in the NBA and to no surprise Gerald Wallace who I can't stand was in it. I understand the that the team wanted to go to BROOKLYN with a bang but why this guy?!? He's always been an hustle player who lacked basic basketball skills that put up numbers on a team like the bobcats.. Someone had to put up numbers Amarite?? Gerald went to portland and he was exposed as just that and it didn't help that he had lost a step on his lateral quickness so they used him alot at the 4 with batum at the 3.

Understanding the upcoming move to Brooklyn I would have traded the pick as well. My question is why not trade the pick for a guy like this who by the looks of hit had some nice chemistry with Dwill in team USA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDwTRYDF_zs A guy that can hit the 3, play multiple positions, great playmaker and guard the other teams best player night in and out. Also a guy that can actually dunk and bring some excitement to the game!!!

Maybe even upgrade the 4 position with a guy like Millsap in Utah for that pick.. Hell even Ryan Anderson, Paul pierce, or wilson chandler would of been much better than this Bum! Excuse my grammar. Have a good day.

*Also wanted to ask what you think about the leagues interest in Gerald Wallace? Maybe we can trade both him and kardashian and sign Iguodala after this season. Roll with Teletubbie at the 4 in the meantime in between time.

I liked his game a lot when he was with Charlotte. Saying that he looks like a shell of what he was in Charlotte is in understatement. He was a very good finisher and capable of exploding for big statline nights. It doesn't seem that his athleticism has declined that much for his game to decline so much. Regardless, that trade was horrible from day one, and we should have used that pick to get someone like Batum, Gallo or Iggy, rather than this mess. Really though, we should have actually held on to that pick till draft night, and then shopped it for the best player possible. There's a good chance we would have ended up with James Harden, had we done that.

His offense has been pretty bad.. but as bad as his offense is I feel his defense and aggressiveness compliment the rest of the starting lineup perfectly. Even though he's gotten older and his athleticism has tapered off, he still plays incredibly hard every single night, don't know if you can say that for any other Net right now. He kinda reminds me of a SF version of Kenyon Martin, minus the attitude.

But yea, still wish he could make a few more shots here and there, then he would def. be worth the contract to me

That's a fairly good comparison. Its just the fact that he plays small forward and you need to have the other teams respect him as a shooter. If only he was a few inches taller he would of been a good Power Forward :/

Athleticism isn't really the issue, he shows a high vertical when it comes to blocks. He had a few vs the Bulls and his head was rim height.

He simply seems like he lost his offensive fundamentals and now it has led to no confidence which is what he's admitted on ESPN NY.


He wasn't bad in November or December really but he has really fell off since then and it's his own fault when you don't take care of your body and rush back from injuries you will make yourself worse.

Defense wise, he covers the PF position much better which probably could help his impact on the court but hey, why not continue to use a 3 on 5 offense? No great teams ever had 5 offensive players on their team lineup #PJ logic

hes 0/16 on his last 3 point field goal attempts, he hasn't hit a 3 since march 2nd lol

hes shooting 28% from the field in march. i dont understand do the nets not have a shooting coach or something? problem is not only is his jumpshot making him easy to defend, but hes gone alot of games badly missing layups because he has no confidence. I feel like for most players once u hit a few layups your jumpshot starts falling, but for him its the opposite - he needs a few jumpshots to go down then he can start making his inside buckets too.

halfHAVOC wrote:hes 0/16 on his last 3 point field goal attempts, he hasn't hit a 3 since march 2nd lol

hes shooting 28% from the field in march. i dont understand do the nets not have a shooting coach or something? problem is not only is his jumpshot making him easy to defend, but hes gone alot of games badly missing layups because he has no confidence. I feel like for most players once u hit a few layups your jumpshot starts falling, but for him its the opposite - he needs a few jumpshots to go down then he can start making his inside buckets too.

This is where coaching comes in. Someone needs to sit him down and tell him straight up to watch his old Charlotte highlights and his best games as a Net to really motivate him. An assistant needs to atleast try to work with him on his 3 point shooting before the game and make it a priority.

PJ keeps talking about "I'm not worried about Gerald, he just banged up" meanwhile Gerald will say "I need to make a f*cking shot F*CK!"....Which he did say to the media actually lol

Dude's confidence is shot, he's too prideful to sit if he's injured even if it's minor, his shots are looking like he's aiming it now rather than a full follow through.

This is the time when a player could use some guidance from teammates and coaching especially since he's the most outspoken one half the time.

Again, I find it a tad bit unfair how people would support JJ through his early season struggles, Deron through his early season struggles, Brook's post injury struggle but not Crash. I get the whole anger towards the trade as I and everyone else is and was but it's a bit ridiculous not to atleast give him that respect.

I got a feeling he'll have a bigger impact for us in the playoffs,Yes he's been terrible for most of the season but i'm hoping in a grind it out 7 game series he can be useful.As long as DWILL/JOE/BROOK do there jobs on offense,you need players like Gerald an Evans to do the dirty work.Just don't like them on the court together especially to start the game.PJ doesn't have the balls to bring either off the bench though.Would love to have Gerald take over the second unit with Blatche,Watson and Tele.Mix in Brooks or Stack if shots are falling.

Sucks not having a real coach for the playoffs!

Paradise wrote:Athleticism isn't really the issue, he shows a high vertical when it comes to blocks. He had a few vs the Bulls and his head was rim height.

He simply seems like he lost his offensive fundamentals and now it has led to no confidence which is what he's admitted on ESPN NY.


He wasn't bad in November or December really but he has really fell off since then and it's his own fault when you don't take care of your body and rush back from injuries you will make yourself worse.

Defense wise, he covers the PF position much better which probably could help his impact on the court but hey, why not continue to use a 3 on 5 offense? No great teams ever had 5 offensive players on their team lineup #PJ logic

i think everyone is really missing the boat on why he struggles. i dont think tis fundamentals... i think he is a square peg in a round hole. you are asking a guy who thrives on playing full court basketball, on play up tempo, on playing high energy to sit in the corner and shoot jumpers on catch and shoot plays on the slowest paced offense in the league with 3 super high usage iso players.

if you look back at the film for the 16 games last year where everyone loved wallace, we were up and down. the green/hump/wallace lineups really got up and down the floor. there was rarely every iso on offense, and when there was it was usually a quick shot of an iso. not 10 dribbles to back down.

now im not saying we should change our offense to cater to our 4th option, but its clear why he struggles. i think our best bet is to move him to the second units, start bogans, and try and go with a second unit that can run.... only issue is, outside of that we dont really have any bench players that can run either.

SteveNets15 wrote:I got a feeling he'll have a bigger impact for us in the playoffs,Yes he's been terrible for most of the season but i'm hoping in a grind it out 7 game series he can be useful.As long as DWILL/JOE/BROOK do there jobs on offense,you need players like Gerald an Evans to do the dirty work.Just don't like them on the court together especially to start the game.PJ doesn't have the balls to bring either off the bench though.Would love to have Gerald take over the second unit with Blatche,Watson and Tele.Mix in Brooks or Stack if shots are falling.

Sucks not having a real coach for the playoffs!

I hope Wallace has a tremendous impact in the playoffs. I want him to be so dominant that some team would actually be fooled into thinking that he's good and wants to trade for him this offseason.

Everybody "plays hard". But can he hit an open 3 which in this offense is needed for floor spacing, less turnovers. At times he doesn't take the open three, drives in and kicks out leading to rushed shots and shot clock violations...Not want you want from a playoff team.

He and Reggie Evans, although they can each do one thing well are extreme liabilities on offense and will result to a 2nd round disaster in the playoffs.

That is why we have so many double digit losses to the good teams in the NBA...Their rebound and defense are extremely overrated.

If D'Antoni coached this team he would have stuck with this lineup and eventually it would have been a high scoring one which would out any team besides.


PG D-will
SG Bogans
SF JJohnson
PF Teleovic
C Lopez

Wallace hit his first off the dribble jumper of the season last night in Phoenix (I'm pretty sure it was his first).

Three good games ... in a row. I even saw one live.

nycefnl wrote:Everybody "plays hard". But can he hit an open 3 which in this offense is needed for floor spacing, less turnovers. At times he doesn't take the open three, drives in and kicks out leading to rushed shots and shot clock violations...Not want you want from a playoff team.

if you think "everbody" plays hard you havent been watching many games. this team mails in more games then any team in the league

The worst trade in the nba in years. I really don't think he should even be playing much. Dwill and lopez are beat to **** carrying the offense.

There's nothing in the offense for him. He's an aggressive cutter, great leaper, and good at drawing fouls, just not good enough at getting from the perimeter to the basket with the ball in his hands. Get him moving towards the basket without the ball, different story. I say play him with Tele, use Tele for the spot up and Wallace for the ball screener. Wallace and Reggie doesn't hold the defense accountable. Reggie clogs the lane and the D sags off of Wallace.

I bet our best lineup is dwill/bogans/jj/teletovic/lopez

LOUiS-D wrote:There's nothing in the offense for him. He's an aggressive cutter, great leaper, and good at drawing fouls, just not good enough at getting from the perimeter to the basket with the ball in his hands. Get him moving towards the basket without the ball, different story. I say play him with Tele, use Tele for the spot up and Wallace for the ball screener. Wallace and Reggie doesn't hold the defense accountable. Reggie clogs the lane and the D sags off of Wallace.

I mean, I don't think the offense is super-ideal for him...but he's regressed so badly as a shooter. He was never anything to write home about, but he's been around 33% or so for the most part from 3, and he's been getting the best looks of his career since coming here. And he's not finishing well around the rim, and when he does get to the line, he's not converting at a decent rate.

His percentages are way down from where they've been for the last few years. I get how fit can make you look worse than you are, but at the same time, how many wide open 3s has he blown? How many LAYUPS has he blown? That goes so far beyond fit...that's just regression. That's just being a really mediocre basketball player. And a defensive player should be able to maintain his impact wherever he goes, and that just hasn't been there either. A lot of it is mental, in that I think he flat out doesn't give a crap and isn't trying out there. Watch him on defense. Most of the time when his man goes around a screen, Wallace will run right into the screen, and then blatantly flop to the point that there's no way the official will call the foul, and his man goes right to the hoop. That's his way of looking like he's playing hard, but really not doing anything, since anyone can run into a screen and get taken out of the play, and then just stand there without boxing anyone out (he's done this PLENTY throughout the season).

I expected so much more from him.

BTW, with that said, I'd really like to see Wallace get legit minutes at PF. When he's a PF, THAT'S when he consistently plays like the Wallace we expected. He actually hustles and gets into the passing lanes, he does a great job boxing out, and he just has this intensity about him. He constantly blows up opposing PnRs because of how quick he is. I think he brings that sort of energy at PF because he HAS to, or else he'll get eaten alive by the opposing big man. And it instantly becomes a more physical game, which I think gets Wallace amped up and ready to play.

He can't even handle passes lately. It's looking like a football player trying to play basketball