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Claud · Post #1621 » by **Claud** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:49 pm

Next week going to be lit. Goku will master Ultra instinct vs full power Jiren

MrDollarBills · Post #1622 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:06 pm

Claud wrote:Next week going to be lit. Goku will master Ultra instinct vs full power Jiren

Yeah next episode looks insane. I loved how they paced this last episode, to give off a real sense of hopelessness as Jiren just beat the tar out of them. As soon as Goku got quiet I knew it was time for Ultra Instinct.

Watch on YouTube

@ Jiren. dude nearly threw up from that

Post #1623 » by **CalamityX12** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:54 pm

Hasn't Jiren noticed that every time Goku gets lit up he finds the next power up.... fool should've eliminate him from the start.

Silver hair, that was foreshadow since last year IIRC. Nice way to not spoil but spoil it Tory... lol

Here's to a good fight and to the writers making Jiren absolute pathetic in the next episode and a half.... dilly dilly!

Post #1624 » by **CalamityX12** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:13 pm

Jersey Generals wrote:
Spoiler:
Yeah, the rationale made less than zero sense. It just simply goes against everything he was in the first three movies that no rational person can sit there and say that this is a natural progression of a story. I’m all for people changing, and you very well could have made him depressed by having him run away because his students died, and I would have understood that: he failed just like his masters before him had failed. But the way they did it and the reason he did it for? Terrible.

I would have loved scheming Kylo. It would have made him different, better, more dangerous even than Darth Vader by having him scheme against Snoke. Instead, he’s just blandly evil. As for the romance between Rey and Kylo, yeah, I think they were leaving that open and gauging the interest of it to see where it goes in Episode 9. However, I think ultimately they will shy away from it, which leaves them to a problem: are they going to have Rey kill him? Because if not and he is redeemed, they are literally redoing Return of the Jedi. This entire trilogy is a mess when you think about it.

“Come to me, Kylo, we need to complete your training.” Five hours later: Oh, okay, I guess his training is complete. I think Rian either has no sense of time or didn’t give a **** about the Force Awakens, either one.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:
Luke’s character is what made me most angry, as well. I can live with a bad movie. If Luke’s character wasn’t so poorly done, I would have been fine with the movie. The other stuff are just window dressing, but Luke? How **** his character was as a person? That ruined it for me. And I’m not alone in that thought as even Mark Hamill expressed dismay just like you said. I think ultimately you’re going to see a midquel movie between Return of the Jedi and the Force Awakens about Luke that has him doing something heroic and grandiose in order to make him a hero again.

The worst part is they didn’t need to do that. Just have him already be dead, killed when he confronted Snoke, just the galaxy doesn’t know that yet. That would make sense about why he is in hiding: he can’t go anywhere so the First Order doesn’t get wind that he is indeed dead. The whole concept of Luke doesn’t make sense, why leave the map with Lor San if he didn’t want to be found?

Spoiler:

Spoiler:
Yup, Snoke was simply lazy storytelling. Or, rather, lack of interest in storytelling as Rian Johnson literally admitted he didn’t know what to do with Snoke. Terrible. If this is Rian Johnson’s skill as a writer, I’m not sure why he was hired in the first place.

The betrayal was fine. Literally, no problems with that. The problem was they built him up with no answers and now the storyline is closed. If he was going to be a nobody, then the Force Awakens shouldn’t have made him seem important. There are literally no foreshadowing of Kylo plotting against him in the Force Awakens, so Snoke’s ignominious defeat seems quick and easy without tension. Bad writing. What would have made it better is by telling the audience that Snoke is this ancient evil that can’t die only for Kylo to figure out how to kill him, now that would have made it worth it.

**** writing all over the place. And I went back to watch it twice so make sure I was right. Yup. Awful on the second watch, too.

The Ugly to come soon.[/quote]

Spoiler:

MrDollarBills · Post #1625 » by **MrDollarBills** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:36 am

CalamityX12 wrote:Hasn't Jiren noticed that every time Goku gets lit up he finds the next power up.... fool should've eliminate him from the start.

Silver hair, that was foreshadow since last year IIRC. Nice way to not spoil but spoil it Tory... lol

Here's to a good fight and to the writers making Jiren absolute pathetic in the next episode and a half.... dilly dilly!

From that preview it looks like Jiren is still bringing it to Goku :lol:

Post #1626 » by **CalamityX12** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:49 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:Hasn't Jiren noticed that every time Goku gets lit up he finds the next power up.... fool should've eliminate him from the start.

Silver hair, that was foreshadow since last year IIRC. Nice way to not spoil but spoil it Tory... lol

Here's to a good fight and to the writers making Jiren absolute pathetic in the next episode and a half.... dilly dilly!

From that preview it looks like Jiren is still bringing it to Goku

its all a matter of writers writing a below than expected turn.... lol

damn really wished Jiren had Ultra Instinct too... something we don't see in Goku battles, having similar powers other than SSJ. So I thought it would be a cool match to see both Goku and Jiren having the same power up in an unrelated to saiyan way.

Cheers to DBS!

Jersey Generals · Post #1627 » by **Jersey Generals** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:52 am

CalamityX12 wrote:The Ugly
Spoiler:
The handling of Finn and Poe were botched IMO. In a classic scenario where two "lead" characters are seperated to different paths, it allows the movie to progress while focusing on each character and growing with that character. Rey they handled it, good or bad(not much bad, more like not much to complain or be disappointed other than parentage) but Finn was done a diservice. It was a failure on RJ to take his character and expand it and bring it to a new level. Show us the training expertise from the First Order, show us a change in character, is he more fearful, fearless? Where is his focus? No, they stuck him to a "must find rey errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" character thus demoting him to a sidekick. Major botch IMO. Am I too interpret his change of demeanor in the casion planet mission? well ok, but that whole side story was a joke. RJ gave a poor excuse of too many characters to expand and focus on blah... well maybe cut off the damn slow speed chase, the casino planet in its entirety or idk, less stable boy footage for your new super dupper bout to **** flop more than the last jedi soon to be sw trilogy you apparently were promoting here.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:
The story was bad... a hot mess and proof that you shouldn't have two different writers/directors/whatever the **** u want to call them in a trilogy. I'm surpried they didn't have a story laid out in some form to stick to. Something that looks like fluidity or cohesionness... we get hot mess, we get garbage. People, like me, waited for this moment with open hearts and expectations(high sure but could never anticipated this feel of disappointment) and we got a piece that shatted on our faces by the end.

I'll tell you why....Disney wanted that Star Wars cash. JJ asked for an extra year before they released the Force Awakens to hammer out the story more, but they gave him six months, which is why it came out in December, rather than May like usual. Disney rushed it and now, they are literally going to drive it into the ground with Solo, which looks just awful.

Spoiler:
A lot of end of the trigoly type feel me in that movie. I mean, what I do look forward to? What the hell is 9 suppose to cover? lol.... Are we going to bring Luke back with suitable air time thus diminishing an epic leave(luv his sunset to the force scene but s/b in 9 n not 8), there's no leia(can't control). I hear the popular theory is to set forward into the future.... Not sure I like it but i wouldn't call a year or 2 too much into the future.

#5 so true, this is the Marvel effect. This movie had no adventure, no story, it was Marvel. My worst fear coming to fruitition. I like my movies to have some serious elements to it or else there's no investment or interest of what happens next. You know when they say something serious, a predictable joke enues(hated thor 3 for it, funny ass movie but made it into a joke)

Spoiler:

Spoiler:
I rather they just re do 8 than make a 9.It's a joke, how they passed this off blows my mind. They clearly had an agenda cuz this movie was poor. Good Sci Fi flick, bad Star Wars entry IMO.

This is me, but I felt( I didn't at the time but as weeks passed) they made the male roles too much of a joke and punched in the female supreme roles on us. No offense to any woman reading its not my intent but I definitely didn't see anything that gave a male a equal view of positive. All the jokes, dumb moments, corny feel came on the males where as the women apparently know everything and are the beings of the universe. This doesn't pertain to Rey/Ren leads but on the other characters. It's like every big speech or moment, from the new cast, came from the women's side where the jokes and mistakes or blahhh were dropped by the males. It irks me but no wonder Kennedy of Disney loved it in my selfish view.

in the end,

**** you Johsnon and **** OFF DISNEY!!!

DILLY DILLY!

This is not on the acting, I did like the acting.

This was the first Star Wars movie where I've ever walked out and was like "we have to sit through another one of these ****?" And I saw Attack of the Clones in theater! (Attack of the Clones was a worse film and movie, but it didn't leave me with the same sense of apathy that the Last Jedi did.

Jersey Generals · Post #1628 » by **Jersey Generals** » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:06 am

Rereading the Yu Yu Hakusho manga for the first time in about ten years, I still don't understand why Onji thought Ura Urashima was suitable to fight against Kurama specifically. The dude was a genius (literally probably the second or third smartest person in the entire manga) and did so much research to craft those weapons, but he didn't know anything about Kurama? Then what would make Kurama different to make him "specifically" suitable to fight Ura? The whole thing doesn't make sense, one of the rare faults of Yu Yu.

therealbig3 · Post #1629 » by **therealbig3** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:54 am

We know Frieza isn't eliminated yet, so Goku just has to hold Jiren off for a couple minutes at this point, not even overpower him.

MrDollarBills · Post #1630 » by **MrDollarBills** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:55 pm

Yep. Freeza's trolling will payoff big time for Universe 7. Jiren has forgotten all about him and can't afford to give Goku an inch or its over.

I hope that this isn't the last we see of Jiren though. him just ending up getting erased would be messed up. universe 7 should just wish for all of the erased universes to be resurrected within their own universe.

Post #1631 » by **CalamityX12** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:13 am

Jersey Generals wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:The Ugly
Spoiler:
The handling of Finn and Poe were botched IMO. In a classic scenario where two "lead" characters are seperated to different paths, it allows the movie to progress while focusing on each character and growing with that character. Rey they handled it, good or bad(not much bad, more like not much to complain or be disappointed other than parentage) but Finn was done a diservice. It was a failure on RJ to take his character and expand it and bring it to a new level. Show us the training expertise from the First Order, show us a change in character, is he more fearful, fearless? Where is his focus? No, they stuck him to a "must find rey errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" character thus demoting him to a sidekick. Major botch IMO. Am I too interpret his change of demeanor in the casion planet mission? well ok, but that whole side story was a joke. RJ gave a poor excuse of too many characters to expand and focus on blah... well maybe cut off the damn slow speed chase, the casino planet in its entirety or idk, less stable boy footage for your new super dupper bout to **** flop more than the last jedi soon to be sw trilogy you apparently were promoting here.

Spoiler:
Finn was useless. Literally just there. They should have made the infiltration of Snoke's ship mean something. The fight with Phasma, who is a nobody as well, should have meant something. Instead, Finn just felt like he was along for the ride, who just happened to be able to make some random chick fall in love with him in the span of 18 hours. Yes. 18. ****. hours.

Spoiler:
The story was bad... a hot mess and proof that you shouldn't have two different writers/directors/whatever the **** u want to call them in a trilogy. I'm surpried they didn't have a story laid out in some form to stick to. Something that looks like fluidity or cohesionness... we get hot mess, we get garbage. People, like me, waited for this moment with open hearts and expectations(high sure but could never anticipated this feel of disappointment) and we got a piece that shatted on our faces by the end.

I'll tell you why....Disney wanted that Star Wars cash. JJ asked for an extra year before they released the Force Awakens to hammer out the story more, but they gave him six months, which is why it came out in December, rather than May like usual. Disney rushed it and now, they are literally going to drive it into the ground with Solo, which looks just awful.

Spoiler:
A lot of end of the trigoly type feel me in that movie. I mean, what I do look forward to? What the hell is 9 suppose to cover? lol.... Are we going to bring Luke back with suitable air time thus diminishing an epic leave(luv his sunset to the force scene but s/b in 9 n not 8), there's no leia(can't control). I hear the popular theory is to set forward into the future.... Not sure I like it but i wouldn't call a year or 2 too much into the future.

#5 so true, this is the Marvel effect. This movie had no adventure, no story, it was Marvel. My worst fear coming to fruitition. I like my movies to have some serious elements to it or else there's no investment or interest of what happens next. You know when they say something serious, a predictable joke enues(hated thor 3 for it, funny ass movie but made it into a joke)

Spoiler:
You look forward to Rey rebuilding the Jedi order! Wait...you mean like Luke was supposed to do? Yeah, but Rey is special because! You're supposed to look forward to how the Rebellion fights off the First Order after their defeat in the middle movie! Wait, you mean like the Rebellionw as defeated on Hoth and was forced to retreat the entire fleet to the Rishi Maze at the end of the Empire Strikes Back? Yeah, but Rey is special because! You look forward to Rey going back to Ahch-To to talk to Luke's ghost! Wait...you mean like Luke went back to talk to Yoda one last time? Yeah, but Rey is special because!

This **** movie was a combination of Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, I'm not sure how anyone can say otherwise. There was nothing original in it, it was simply a subversion of what came before. A throws B a rock and he catches it. But to Rian Johnson, a better movie would be A throws B a rock but he bobbles it first and then catches it. Trash.

Spoiler:
I rather they just re do 8 than make a 9.It's a joke, how they passed this off blows my mind. They clearly had an agenda cuz this movie was poor. Good Sci Fi flick, bad Star Wars entry IMO.

This is me, but I felt( I didn't at the time but as weeks passed) they made the male roles too much of a joke and punched in the female supreme roles on us. No offense to any woman reading its not my intent but I definitely didn't see anything that gave a male a equal view of positive. All the jokes, dumb moments, corny feel came on the males where as the women apparently know everything and are the beings of the universe. This doesn't pertain to Rey/Ren leads but on the other characters. It's like every big speech or moment, from the new cast, came from the women's side where the jokes and mistakes or blahhh were dropped by the males. It irks me but no wonder Kennedy of Disney loved it in my selfish view.

in the end,

**** you Johsnon and **** OFF DISNEY!!!

DILLY DILLY!

This is not on the acting, I did like the acting.

This was the first Star Wars movie where I've ever walked out and was like "we have to sit through another one of these ****?" And I saw Attack of the Clones in theater! (Attack of the Clones was a worse film and movie, but it didn't leave me with the same sense of apathy that the Last Jedi did.

Spoiler:

Post #1632 » by **CalamityX12** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:16 am

Jersey Generals wrote:Rereading the Yu Yu Hakusho manga for the first time in about ten years, I still don't understand why Onji thought Ura Urashima was suitable to fight against Kurama specifically. The dude was a genius (literally probably the second or third smartest person in the entire manga) and did so much research to craft those weapons, but he didn't know anything about Kurama? Then what would make Kurama different to make him "specifically" suitable to fight Ura? The whole thing doesn't make sense, one of the rare faults of Yu Yu.

Yu Yu.... classic... I would luv watching it on my Saturday nights at late hours during that great anime block Toonami had back in the day... ahhh my youth.

MrDollarBills · Post #1633 » by **MrDollarBills** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:52 am

Jersey Generals wrote:Rereading the Yu Yu Hakusho manga for the first time in about ten years, I still don't understand why Onji thought Ura Urashima was suitable to fight against Kurama specifically. The dude was a genius (literally probably the second or third smartest person in the entire manga) and did so much research to craft those weapons, but he didn't know anything about Kurama? Then what would make Kurama different to make him "specifically" suitable to fight Ura? The whole thing doesn't make sense, one of the rare faults of Yu Yu.

do you have a good clean link to read the manga? i'd love to reread it. PM me tho

MrDollarBills · Post #1634 » by **MrDollarBills** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:54 am

CalamityX12 wrote:
Jersey Generals wrote:Rereading the Yu Yu Hakusho manga for the first time in about ten years, I still don't understand why Onji thought Ura Urashima was suitable to fight against Kurama specifically. The dude was a genius (literally probably the second or third smartest person in the entire manga) and did so much research to craft those weapons, but he didn't know anything about Kurama? Then what would make Kurama different to make him "specifically" suitable to fight Ura? The whole thing doesn't make sense, one of the rare faults of Yu Yu.

Yu Yu.... classic... I would luv watching it on my Saturday nights at late hours during that great anime block Toonami had back in the day... ahhh my youth.

dude!!

Watch on YouTube

i loved that show back in those days of the original Toonami. this is what introduced me to Hunter X Hunter

Post #1635 » by **CalamityX12** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:59 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:
Jersey Generals wrote:Rereading the Yu Yu Hakusho manga for the first time in about ten years, I still don't understand why Onji thought Ura Urashima was suitable to fight against Kurama specifically. The dude was a genius (literally probably the second or third smartest person in the entire manga) and did so much research to craft those weapons, but he didn't know anything about Kurama? Then what would make Kurama different to make him "specifically" suitable to fight Ura? The whole thing doesn't make sense, one of the rare faults of Yu Yu.

Yu Yu.... classic... I would luv watching it on my Saturday nights at late hours during that great anime block Toonami had back in the day... ahhh my youth.

dude!!

Watch on YouTube

i loved that show back in those days of the original Toonami. this is what introduced me to Hunter X Hunter

my man!

I've actually caught on to hunter x hunter, definitely has potential but oh boy reading that manga(on n off.. cancel the series or not! lol) is very challenging in terms of following the explanations...

but with that said, good source to work with and not afraid to be bloody and "evil" when need be. I like it... followed through the Chimera Ant Arc... the music is on POINT!

MrDollarBills · Post #1636 » by **MrDollarBills** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:24 am

CalamityX12 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:Yu Yu.... classic... I would luv watching it on my Saturday nights at late hours during that great anime block Toonami had back in the day... ahhh my youth.

dude!!

Watch on YouTube

i loved that show back in those days of the original Toonami. this is what introduced me to Hunter X Hunter

my man!

I've actually caught on to hunter x hunter, definitely has potential but oh boy reading that manga(on n off.. cancel the series or not! lol) is very challenging in terms of following the explanations...

but with that said, good source to work with and not afraid to be bloody and "evil" when need be. I like it... followed through the Chimera Ant Arc... the music is on POINT!

The Chimera Ant Arc is one of the greatest stories ever told

Watch on YouTube

Killua is one of the greatest manga/anime characters of all time. if i'm not mistaken that scene above was the reason why in Japan they had to move Hunter X Hunter from an early time slot til late night because of how brutal things became as the arc progressed (which is funny since Hunter X Hunter was super violent from the starting arc).

here's another great scene from the Chimera Ants arc. "It's been awhile since I've flipped on my switch on"

Watch on YouTube

absolutely savage behavior here. "if you behave, i'll kill you fast".

MrDollarBills · Post #1637 » by **MrDollarBills** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:00 am

Don't sleep on the 1999 version Hunter X Hunter anime though. certain moments in that series (which only covered from The Hunters Exam Arc to Greed Island) were handled better in that one than in the 2011 series. case in point:

here is the Zoldyck assassins versus Chrollo Lucifer fight from both versions of the HxH anime:

Watch on YouTube

'99

Watch on YouTube

'11

which was done better? both versions have their merits. the '99 version was a lot darker and grittier but the '11 version copied the manga version better.

Post #1638 » by **CalamityX12** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:45 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Don't sleep on the 1999 version Hunter X Hunter anime though. certain moments in that series (which only covered from The Hunters Exam Arc to Greed Island) were handled better in that one than in the 2011 series. case in point:

here is the Zoldyck assassins versus Chrollo Lucifer fight from both versions of the HxH anime:

Watch on YouTube

'99

Watch on YouTube

'11

which was done better? both versions have their merits. the '99 version was a lot darker and grittier but the '11 version copied the manga version better.

ohhhh i got to watch the '99 version... stupid me!

Netero though, he's a bad ass....

Post #1639 » by **CalamityX12** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:46 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:

The Chimera Ant Arc is one of the greatest stories ever told

Watch on YouTube

Killua is one of the greatest manga/anime characters of all time. if i'm not mistaken that scene above was the reason why in Japan they had to move Hunter X Hunter from an early time slot til late night because of how brutal things became as the arc progressed (which is funny since Hunter X Hunter was super violent from the starting arc).

here's another great scene from the Chimera Ants arc. "It's been awhile since I've flipped on my switch on"

Watch on YouTube

absolutely savage behavior here. "if you behave, i'll kill you fast".

Killua is simply a stone cold killer! Luv how he knows what to do and does it without hesitation....

If Hunter X Hunter continues consistently, I hope we see more of his family in action and their backstory.

MrDollarBills · Post #1640 » by **MrDollarBills** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:40 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:

The Chimera Ant Arc is one of the greatest stories ever told

Watch on YouTube

Killua is one of the greatest manga/anime characters of all time. if i'm not mistaken that scene above was the reason why in Japan they had to move Hunter X Hunter from an early time slot til late night because of how brutal things became as the arc progressed (which is funny since Hunter X Hunter was super violent from the starting arc).

here's another great scene from the Chimera Ants arc. "It's been awhile since I've flipped on my switch on"

Watch on YouTube

absolutely savage behavior here. "if you behave, i'll kill you fast".

Killua is simply a stone cold killer! Luv how he knows what to do and does it without hesitation....

If Hunter X Hunter continues consistently, I hope we see more of his family in action and their backstory.

Killua (or Gon for that matter) hasn't really been seen in the manga since the anime ended. The story has revolved around Kurapika and the craziness that has happened on the boat sailing to The Dark Continent.

Spoiler:

Hopefully if the anime returns one day they'll animate Hisoka vs. Chrollo in Heaven's Arena. That was the craziest, most violent battle yet in the series, which is saying a lot considering how brutal the Chimera Ants arc was :lol: