Mason Plumlee

TheMightyHumph · Post #1 » by **TheMightyHumph** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:13 pm

So what do we think about this guy so far?

I like him, and I hope he doesn't get sent down to the D-League.

Playing against inferior competition won't help him'

Didn't help Toko, TyShawn nor Terrence Williams

DrazenForThree · Post #2 » by **DrazenForThree** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:51 pm

Mason Bumlee is a scrub. i feel the same about him as i felt going into draft night. he is a turrible player who belongs at the bottom of the second round and ill be rip **** if we pick him.

The d-league isnt playing against inferior players for him. he isnt a good player, doesnt have a ceiling, and has flaws all over the place. the reason the d-league didnt help tyshawn or toko is because they are giant scrubby second round talent as well. these guys all belong in the dleague and eventually dont belong in the league at all.

it was a giant waste of a pick, which normally isnt bad in the 20's but considering we dont have may picks the next few years, it magnifies the sucktitude of the pick.

but hey, billy king got himself a blue devil, so its all good.

Paradise · Post #3 » by **Paradise** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:33 am

I like his motor. He needs alot of work but his 8 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists was pretty impressive. He's not going to see alot of time but like him or not, we need a 3rd big that can replicate what Hump did here and so far he looks like a good insurance policy in case of a B-Lo or KG injury or whenever Blatche decides to play like an idiot.

DrazenForThree · Post #4 » by **DrazenForThree** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:33 pm

Paradise wrote:I like his motor. He needs alot of work but his 8 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists was pretty impressive. He's not going to see alot of time but like him or not, we need a 3rd big that can replicate what Hump did here and so far he looks like a good insurance policy in case of a B-Lo or KG injury or whenever Blatche decides to play like an idiot.

good insurance policy?

if he has to replace lopez or KG, or even be called on to back them up, we are screwed. he is just as bad as having to play taylor

serp · Post #5 » by **serp** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:46 pm

DrazenForThree wrote:
Paradise wrote:I like his motor. He needs alot of work but his 8 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists was pretty impressive. He's not going to see alot of time but like him or not, we need a 3rd big that can replicate what Hump did here and so far he looks like a good insurance policy in case of a B-Lo or KG injury or whenever Blatche decides to play like an idiot.

good insurance policy?

if he has to replace lopez or KG, or even be called on to back them up, we are screwed. he is just as bad as having to play taylor

The worst thing about Taylor is how low is BBIQ is .Thats one thing Plumlee has on him ( well not that hard though )

I mean an energy guy that plays smart and within his limitations at 22 . It could be alot worse. Especially since he probably has the best low skill energy big in the league to learn from in Reggie.

vincecarter4pres · Post #6 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:34 pm

Not feeling Plumlee, basically agree with DF3.

Paradise · Post #7 » by **Paradise** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:25 pm

DrazenForThree wrote:
Paradise wrote:I like his motor. He needs alot of work but his 8 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists was pretty impressive. He's not going to see alot of time but like him or not, we need a 3rd big that can replicate what Hump did here and so far he looks like a good insurance policy in case of a B-Lo or KG injury or whenever Blatche decides to play like an idiot.

good insurance policy?

if he has to replace lopez or KG, or even be called on to back them up, we are screwed. he is just as bad as having to play taylor

I don't see how. Ty is asked to be a point guard and make everyone around him better and organized which he cannot do. Plumlee is being asked to grab rebounds and finish around the rim. Two different opposites.

624 · Post #8 » by **624** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:26 pm

He dribbles at a preschool level.

SpeedyG · Post #9 » by **SpeedyG** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:53 pm

He needs work, but I'm OK with it. Dieng would have been perfect, IMO, but we missed out on that. Plumlee can still be a solid pick after KG and Blatche are gone. At best, he can be a David Lee type player. At worst, another Hump with better IQ. That's really not a bad haul where we were drafting.

TheMightyHumph · Post #10 » by **TheMightyHumph** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:31 pm

Gotta say, as fans that have very recently had Johan Petro and The Landlord as their backup Centers, I would think there would be a little more hope coming from Net fans for Plumlee.

Blatche played very well on offense as backup Center for Nets last season, but he is a VERY UNINTELLIGENT player on both ends of the court. He CANNOT guard Centers.

Plumlee is active, seems to be intelligent, can and will play physically, and fits into Kidd's idea of having a running team. Also seems to be a willing passer

And, of course, Blatche is a PF.

vincecarter4pres · Post #11 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:17 pm

SpeedyG wrote:He needs work, but I'm OK with it. Dieng would have been perfect, IMO, but we missed out on that. Plumlee can still be a solid pick after KG and Blatche are gone. At best, he can be a David Lee type player. At worst, another Hump with better IQ. That's really not a bad haul where we were drafting.

At best David Lee? No.

At worst Hump with better IQ? No.

Try at best Hump with the slightest of slightly better BBIQ or maybe Jeff Foster. My guess is they saw him like A-Train though.

Try at worst out of the league before his rookie contract is up, but with his height and athleticism probably more like Petro.

Post #12 » by **CalamityX12** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:35 pm

DIdnt like the pick when drafted but I'll admit with the lack of youth/speed/athleticism we have overall, seeing him as a different piece is a bit refreshing and he's growing on me....

With the system Kidd n Co. are implementing in which the ball is constantly moving, he can be servicable as the backup... does he need work? absolutely but I don't feel he's a lost cause as some are pointing to.

Again, didn't like the selection but he's growing on me... we'll see if he carries his weight.

DarkXaero · Post #13 » by **DarkXaero** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:38 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:
SpeedyG wrote:He needs work, but I'm OK with it. Dieng would have been perfect, IMO, but we missed out on that. Plumlee can still be a solid pick after KG and Blatche are gone. At best, he can be a David Lee type player. At worst, another Hump with better IQ. That's really not a bad haul where we were drafting.

At best David Lee? No.

At worst Hump with better IQ? No.

Try at best Hump with the slightest of slightly better BBIQ or maybe Jeff Foster. My guess is they saw him like A-Train though.

Try at worst out of the league before his rookie contract is up, but with his height and athleticism probably more like Petro.

Well, tbf, Cole Aldrich is still in the league somehow after his rookie contract was up, so there's more hope for Plumlee.

That being said, it infuriates me that we missed out on the much better prospect, Dieng, who got picked right before our pick. He would have been a much better fit here with a legit chance of becoming a rotation player for us.

Sharcm1 · Post #14 » by **Sharcm1** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:55 pm

He is a high energy guy that will listen and do what they tell him to do. But he has horrible hands, fumbles the ball a lot and can't finish the way you would expect from a guy with his athletic abilities. At least that's what I've seen so far in the preseason. I'm sure he will grow and get better but I don't expect much from him.

bobbyc · Post #15 » by **bobbyc** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:49 pm

In all likelihood no one we would have drafted would have gotten playing time in the next 2 years(our competing window).

When looking at the players drafted behind him, he looks good. Also helps fit in the back up to the backup C position.

High energy, good rebounder, and decent defender. His Offensive skills are non-existent. But, At the Center position Defense and rebounding are more important.

I doubt anyone from the end of last years draft becomes any good.

Post #16 » by **NyCeEvO** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:52 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:At best David Lee? No.

At worst Hump with better IQ? No.

Try at best Hump with the slightest of slightly better BBIQ or maybe Jeff Foster. My guess is they saw him like A-Train though.

Try at worst out of the league before his rookie contract is up, but with his height and athleticism probably more like Petro.

Yeah, he definitely doesn't have David Lee potential. Lee's touch around the basket and post/faceup game is worlds apart from Plumlee.

However, I do see the Hump comparisons. He won't be as tenacious a rebounder, but he's faster than Hump and could be a significantly better shot blocker if he raises his defensive BBIQ.

He's not the type of player who you select for a pick in the early 20s. You more see players of Plumlee's caliber selected by teams that go deep into the playoffs and have the 28-30th picks or drop to the 5-10 range in the 2nd round.

It was a definite reach but I knew that Blue Devil connection was going to come up some way or another.

Heck, that was probably the deal that Coach K set up.

If you draft Plumlee, I'll let you guys have training camp in our facilities. :lol:

JV4MVP · Post #17 » by **JV4MVP** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:54 am

After seeing him today I'm not too optimistic. His shooting form is worrisome... slow release and very flat. He couldn't hit 12 footers.

He has big calf muscles but lacks in upper body strength. At this point I don't see him as anything more than a bench player that goes in to get a few rebounds around the basket and tries to score on cleanup points.

vincecarter4pres · Post #18 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:29 am

I don't know if he even reaches this level, but I'm telling you guys they took him with the thought he'd be the modern day A-Train.

Meh, I mean if he did become that, that's a solid bench big, but still such a waste of a pick given our lack of picks in the coming years and need for starting caliber guys on rookie scale salary on the books through the 2016 season.

Really should have went with a big time upside pick in that spot. Going for some hopeful 18mpg solid yet completely unspectacular and limited rotation guy as his ceiling player was the last thing King should have done, especially with how for the present he knew we could fill out this roster with players we shouldn't have been able to monetarily.

TheMightyHumph · Post #19 » by **TheMightyHumph** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:59 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:I don't know if he even reaches this level, but I'm telling you guys they took him with the thought he'd be the modern day A-Train.

Meh, I mean if he did become that, that's a solid bench big, but still such a waste of a pick given our lack of picks in the coming years and need for starting caliber guys on rookie scale salary on the books through the 2016 season.

Really should have went with a big time upside pick in that spot. Going for some hopeful 18mpg solid yet completely unspectacular and limited rotation guy as his ceiling player was the last thing King should have done, especially with how for the present he knew we could fill out this roster with players we shouldn't have been able to monetarily.

So Nets should have drafted whom?

Paradise · Post #20 » by **Paradise** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:32 am

TheMightyHumph wrote:
So Nets should have drafted whom?

Tim Hardaway Jr, Solomon Hill, Tony Mitchell were three quality candidates left and Hardaway looks great so far.

I kind of see why BIlly did it considering he knew already he was trading Humphries and possibly Evans and wanted another high motor big, so he went with him but he really has no upside other than being another Joel Pryzbilla type of player...Which isn't bad considering we'll need a high motor young big against the likes of Chicago, Indiana but he is not exactly an asset either. His development is probably a more athletic Meyers Leonard.