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Nets acquire Marquis Teague for Toko; Tyshawn to Pelicans
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:22 pm
by Paradise
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Brooklyn is sending Tyshawn Taylor to New Orleans for a future pick and cash, sources tell Yahoo.
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Chicago is finalizing deal to send Marquis Teague to the Brooklyn Nets for forward Toko Shengelia, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
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Re: Nets acquire Marquis Teague for Toko; Tyshawn to Pelican
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:26 pm
by JMaine518
Wow didn't see that coming
Re: Nets acquire Marquis Teague for Toko; Tyshawn to Pelican
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:28 pm
by Jstock12
What the hell? Why would King do this?
Re: Nets acquire Marquis Teague for Toko; Tyshawn to Pelican
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:30 pm
by kerry kittles
Two D league talents for a D league talent and a future 2nd. Not worth going nuts over.
What is interesting is a roster spot is cleared. Does this mean Bynum?
Re: Nets acquire Marquis Teague for Toko; Tyshawn to Pelican
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:37 pm
by Paradise
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Maybe we will go after Bynum again?
Re: Nets acquire Marquis Teague for Toko; Tyshawn to Pelican
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:07 pm
by BK nets BK
Yay a pick
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Re: Nets acquire Marquis Teague for Toko; Tyshawn to Pelican
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:14 pm
by therealbig3
I really hate the fact that we're trading Toko though. The guy has legit talent, and he deserves more burn than we're giving him.
Re: Nets acquire Marquis Teague for Toko; Tyshawn to Pelican
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:22 pm
by Rich Rane
kerry kittles wrote:Not worth going nuts over.
Re: Nets acquire Marquis Teague for Toko; Tyshawn to Pelican
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:23 pm
by kerry kittles
therealbig3 wrote:I really hate the fact that we're trading Toko though. The guy has legit talent, and he deserves more burn than we're giving him.
I don't get what people see in Toko. He is athletic, young, good motor and finishes well at the rim. Problem is he turns the ball over every time trying to get to the rim and his jumper is broken. He has a PER of 3.4, and a TS% of 45.4% in limited minutes with the Nets this year, worse than Terry in both categories. He averages 4.75 TO's per game in under 30 minutes in the D League this year and averaged 4.5 last year. His TOV% was over 25% both this year and last year for the Nets. He's also averaging 4.5 fouls a game giving further credence to the knowledge that he gambles a lot on defense and struggles to keep his man in front of him without fouling. He's a free agent at the end of the year. Do you think we'd keep him if he was still here?
Re: Nets acquire Marquis Teague for Toko; Tyshawn to Pelican
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:30 pm
by pylb
Bulls fan here.
Teague... sucks. I don't see any other way to put it. We've given up on him. He looked lost in his first summer league, he looks lost in NBA games, he's only looked decent in this year's summer league.
Pros:
He's still very young. He does have insane quickness and the ability to get in the paint. He's a willing distributor. He's a decent defender.
Cons:
He hasn't shown any progress. He's a poor shooter and his mechanics are broken. He can't make layups either. He's not a great passer. He has poor court vision, so he hits a shooter coming off a screen too late, or doesn't kick it out when he gets too deep in the paint.
Most of all, he's scared. He's scared to bring it across half court, he's scared to stand outside the 3point line, he's scared to make a pass, he's scared to shoot and he's scared to use his ability to get inside the paint.
Maybe now that he's not terrified of Thibs pulling him he'll turn out okay. He's been OK-ish in the D-League I was told.
Re: Nets acquire Marquis Teague for Toko; Tyshawn to Pelican
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:33 pm
by Rich Rane
Out of the three players traded, Teague is probably the worst of them (Toko's probably the best of the 3, but he had no role here and would've likely been let go after this season and replaced with Bogdanovic), but I just don't see any being a consistent NBA-level player. I hope any one of them proves me wrong.
Re: Nets acquire Marquis Teague for Toko; Tyshawn to Pelican
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:39 pm
by CalamityX12
surprised there's no first rd pick going out from the nets...
either way, this trade is meaningless other than "roster" spot cleanup....
no mas Toko... pooo
Re: Nets acquire Marquis Teague for Toko; Tyshawn to Pelican
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:43 pm
by CalamityX12
pylb wrote:Bulls fan here.
Teague... sucks. I don't see any other way to put it. We've given up on him. He looked lost in his first summer league, he looks lost in NBA games, he's only looked decent in this year's summer league.
Pros:
He's still very young. He does have insane quickness and the ability to get in the paint. He's a willing distributor. He's a decent defender.
Cons:
He hasn't shown any progress. He's a poor shooter and his mechanics are broken. He can't make layups either. He's not a great passer. He has poor court vision, so he hits a shooter coming off a screen too late, or doesn't kick it out when he gets too deep in the paint.
Most of all, he's scared. He's scared to bring it across half court, he's scared to stand outside the 3point line, he's scared to make a pass, he's scared to shoot and he's scared to use his ability to get inside the paint.
Maybe now that he's not terrified of Thibs pulling him he'll turn out okay. He's been OK-ish in the D-League I was told.
Then wtf did King traded for him??? oh billy....
Re: Nets acquire Marquis Teague for Toko; Tyshawn to Pelican
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:54 pm
by SpeedyG
Looks like a roster spot basically. Got rid of Tyshawn, who can't run the point as we'd want out of our #3 PG. Replace him with Teague in exchange for Toko who doesn't have the minutes here.
Hopefully Teague can get the Jason Kidd-effect and play with confidence. But I'm guessing he'll be nothing more than a placeholder.
Wonder what his contract situation is as well, and if he can be let go easier than either Toko or Tyshawn.
Re: Nets acquire Marquis Teague for Toko; Tyshawn to Pelican
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:57 pm
by Rich Rane
SpeedyG wrote:Wonder what his contract situation is as well, and if he can be let go easier than either Toko or Tyshawn.
According to HoopsHype and ShamSports, he has another year.
Re: Nets acquire Marquis Teague for Toko; Tyshawn to Pelican
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:58 pm
by pylb
SpeedyG wrote:Looks like a roster spot basically. Got rid of Tyshawn, who can't run the point as we'd want out of our #3 PG. Replace him with Teague in exchange for Toko who doesn't have the minutes here.
Hopefully Teague can get the Jason Kidd-effect and play with confidence. But I'm guessing he'll be nothing more than a placeholder.
Wonder what his contract situation is as well, and if he can be let go easier than either Toko or Tyshawn.
Bulls picked up Teague's option, so he's guaranteed 1.2M for next year.
Re: Nets acquire Marquis Teague for Toko; Tyshawn to Pelican
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:59 pm
by SpeedyG
pylb wrote:SpeedyG wrote:Looks like a roster spot basically. Got rid of Tyshawn, who can't run the point as we'd want out of our #3 PG. Replace him with Teague in exchange for Toko who doesn't have the minutes here.
Hopefully Teague can get the Jason Kidd-effect and play with confidence. But I'm guessing he'll be nothing more than a placeholder.
Wonder what his contract situation is as well, and if he can be let go easier than either Toko or Tyshawn.
Bulls picked up Teague's option, so he's guaranteed 1.2M for next year.
OMG FIRE BILLY KING!!!!!
Re: Nets acquire Marquis Teague for Toko; Tyshawn to Pelican
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:02 pm
by N Ireland Nets
Don't understand these moves really.
Teague has been horrible and did nothing in the D league never mind the NBA. We lose probably the best player in the deals in Toko to a team who have a top head coach who could help mold Toko into a nice rotation player down the road. He's got the raw tools so with some guidance we could look like fools down the road with this deal.
Sending money out to get rid of Taylor is again going to limit our ability to go buy a pick or 2 on draft night for euro stashes or players who have dropped or whatever.
I don't like these trades at all.
At the minute it's looking like Billy King strikes again
Re: Nets acquire Marquis Teague for Toko; Tyshawn to Pelican
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:05 pm
by Rich Rane
N Ireland Nets wrote:Teague has been horrible and did nothing in the D league never mind the NBA. We lose probably the best player in the deals in Toko to a team who have a top head coach who could help mold Toko into a nice rotation player down the road. He's got the raw tools so with some guidance we could look like fools down the road with this deal.
I'm not much of a Teague fan either, but do you think the Nets would've brought back Toko this offseason?
N Ireland Nets wrote:Sending money out to get rid of Taylor is again going to limit our ability to go buy a pick or 2 on draft night for euro stashes or players who have dropped or whatever.
Nets got a 2nd rounder in the deal. It's almost the same.
Re: Nets acquire Marquis Teague for Toko; Tyshawn to Pelican
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:05 pm
by NjNeTs1029
open roster spot seems like the only reason for these moves