PG: Good Job, Good Effort

[Paradise]

Nets: 105 Jazz: 99

This was a game the previous Nets would have lost. Very good way to start the road trip.

-Deron played very well
-The bench mob is always awesome
-Blatche played great today. His inconsistency at this point is who he is.
-Livingston/Kirilenko need lifetime contracts

[Palmeirense]

Pretty sure we'll lose this game. How sad is this team?

[Prokorov]

this is no gimme, we lost to a beat up/injured jazz team on this same road trip last season. And we are coming off a terrible effort vs the bulls.

this is a must win if we want to finish the season at .500

[Prokorov]

Also, i think its time to go back to bringing williams off the bench, and bring kirilenko into the starting lineup:

Livingston, Johnson, Pierce, AK, KG

yeah that lineup is going to struggle a bit offensively but thats a team that can slow you down and a team that can really defend. and defending is what got us on that streak in january. then off the bench you have

Dwill, Anderson, Mirza, Blatche

Anderson paired with dwill is nice because you can put him on the better offensive gaurd to hide dwills defense and you surround dwill with some shooters. you also reduce the amount anderson/blatche handle the ball and give them someone to create offense for them

[Born_Ready]

Also, i think its time to go back to bringing williams off the bench, and bring kirilenko into the starting lineup:

Livingston, Johnson, Pierce, AK, KG

yeah that lineup is going to struggle a bit offensively but thats a team that can slow you down and a team that can really defend. and defending is what got us on that streak in january. then off the bench you have

Dwill, Anderson, Mirza, Blatche

Anderson paired with dwill is nice because you can put him on the better offensive gaurd to hide dwills defense and you surround dwill with some shooters. you also reduce the amount anderson/blatche handle the ball and give them someone to create offense for them

It's sad that is what we have come to. Paying an underachieving bench player such a high salary.

Sadly, I agree with you 100% regarding your notion for Williams to come off the bench.

On paper this is a game Brooklyn should win. However, the players have to play the game- so anything is possible. I wish I could just say this is an easy win, who's next? Not so much with this cluster fux team.

[MrDollarBills]

the nets are gonna lose

[MGrand15]

When the Nets blow them out, are you guys going to shut up? Or just talk about how this is what they should've done and about how you were still right for assuming they'd lose to the worst team in the league?

Serious question.

[Prokorov]

When the Nets blow them out, are you guys going to shut up? Or just talk about how this is what they should've done and about how you were still right for assuming they'd lose to the worst team in the league?


Serious question.

blowing them out IS what we should do... or at least win. they are an awful team in tank mode and we have had several days rest. and given we like lose 3 or 4 of the next 5 games its a must win.

this team has no spine or pride though. so a loss wouldnt be suprising especially on the road vs a young athletic team.

this team is dog trash. we need a trade in the worst way

[MGrand15]

When the Nets blow them out, are you guys going to shut up? Or just talk about how this is what they should've done and about how you were still right for assuming they'd lose to the worst team in the league?


Serious question.

blowing them out IS what we should do... or at least win. they are an awful team in tank mode and we have had several days rest. and given we like lose 3 or 4 of the next 5 games its a must win.

this team has no spine or pride though. so a loss wouldnt be suprising especially on the road vs a young athletic team.

this team is dog trash. we need a trade in the worst way

The team is dog trash to someone who looks at the team without context and undermines all of our wins. Regardless of your negativity, outside of the second half of back-to-backs, we've been REALLY good since changing our lineup. And guess what, there are no back-to-backs in the playoffs.

You're right we should win. But there are already a couple of people in this thread saying we're going to lose. No analysis, no reasoning, no discussions - just stating that we're going to lose because we're trash to the worst team in the league after a long rest.

I just think it's dumb to say that and if they're right (which they won't be, they rarely are), they come in and talk about how trash this team is. If they're wrong, they come in and talk about how this is what the Nets should do but we'll get blown out next game anyway. What's the point?

[Prokorov]

The team is dog trash to someone who looks at the team without context and undermines all of our wins. Regardless of your negativity, outside of the second half of back-to-backs, we've been REALLY good since changing our lineup. And guess what, there are no back-to-backs in the playoffs.

no but we have 6 back to backs remaining this season and you need to first get to the playoffs before you can play in them. also, lets not pretend like losing back to backs is the reason we are struggling. we'd still be barely over .500 if we had won the majority of those.

REALLY good since changing our lineup? we are 5-5 in our last 10 games, our win streak had more to do with unsustainable outside shooting then it did a lineup change, which is why, since our shooting has come back to earth we havent been very good.

You're right we should win. But there are already a couple of people in this thread saying we're going to lose. No analysis, no reasoning, no discussions - just stating that we're going to lose because we're trash to the worst team in the league after a long rest.

if we lose, which is a real possibility, it will be because of playing on the road, their speed, their athelticism and their size/rebounding. speedy teams with big front courts have played us well. this could be another case of that. i dont think we lose, only because its the most important game we've played to date, but i think it goes down to the wire

I just think it's dumb to say that and if they're right (which they won't be, they rarely are), they come in and talk about how trash this team is. If they're wrong, they come in and talk about how this is what the Nets should do but we'll get blown out next game anyway. What's the point?

to date, their have been more times when you could come in and trash this team. we have 26 losses already. and we have gotten destroyed in several of those. and we have lost to a ton of BAD teams. if not for playing in the tanking east, we might not have 20 wins right now.

to classify this team as anything other then average or worse with 0 shot of winning a first round series is insane homerism on knick-fan type levels

[MGrand15]

The team is dog trash to someone who looks at the team without context and undermines all of our wins. Regardless of your negativity, outside of the second half of back-to-backs, we've been REALLY good since changing our lineup. And guess what, there are no back-to-backs in the playoffs.

no but we have 6 back to backs remaining this season and you need to first get to the playoffs before you can play in them. also, lets not pretend like losing back to backs is the reason we are struggling. we'd still be barely over .500 if we had won the majority of those.

REALLY good since changing our lineup? we are 5-5 in our last 10 games, our win streak had more to do with unsustainable outside shooting then it did a lineup change, which is why, since our shooting has come back to earth we havent been very good.

You're right we should win. But there are already a couple of people in this thread saying we're going to lose. No analysis, no reasoning, no discussions - just stating that we're going to lose because we're trash to the worst team in the league after a long rest.

if we lose, which is a real possibility, it will be because of playing on the road, their speed, their athelticism and their size/rebounding. speedy teams with big front courts have played us well. this could be another case of that. i dont think we lose, only because its the most important game we've played to date, but i think it goes down to the wire

I just think it's dumb to say that and if they're right (which they won't be, they rarely are), they come in and talk about how trash this team is. If they're wrong, they come in and talk about how this is what the Nets should do but we'll get blown out next game anyway. What's the point?

to date, their have been more times when you could come in and trash this team. we have 26 losses already. and we have gotten destroyed in several of those. and we have lost to a ton of BAD teams. if not for playing in the tanking east, we might not have 20 wins right now.

to classify this team as anything other then average or worse with 0 shot of winning a first round series is insane homerism on knick-fan type levels

We're 5-5 in our last 10 with FOUR of our five losses coming on the 2nd-half of back to backs.

We weren't winning because of unsustainable outside shooting. I'd love to see some numbers to support that. We have a team with Deron, JJ, Pierce, Anderson, Teletovic playing major minutes. That's five REALLY good 3pt shooters - we're going to shoot the 3 a lot (especially when we go small) and we're going to shoot it well. Please tell me why you think it's unsustainable. You keep bringing that up as if its fact.

We absolutely have 26 losses already. But the majority of those losses came while we were in disarray, trying to figure out identity, Frank/Kidd were clashing, we were dealing with injuries. The team that was playing in mid-November literally has NO effect on what happens from here on out. ESPECIALLY since the East was so weak that we can still easily be 3/4 by the end of the year. So again, if you think those games where Reggie Evans and Brook Lopez got major minutes and Tyshaun Taylor was our starter is relevant in the grand scheme of things, I don't know what to tell you.

And you say you have to get to the playoff first before worrying about back-to-backs, do you think we won't make it to the playoffs? You do think the team is trash. I would love to bet major money with you on whether we make the playoffs or not. Since you think the team is dog trash, it should be an easy bet right?

[Prokorov]

We're 5-5 in our last 10 with FOUR of our five losses coming on the 2nd-half of back to backs.

those still count as losses and we dont win those games if it wasnt a back to back... not to mention we looked horrible in our wins which mostly came against terrible tanking teams and the spurs 5th string players. You keep harping on back to backs, but we have a ton left to deal with this season. its not a problem that is going away....

you mention no back to backs in the playoffs, but in the playoffs we face good teams that will throttle us, so its irrelevant we wont have back to backs

We weren't winning because of unsustainable outside shooting. I'd love to see some numbers to support that. We have a team with Deron, JJ, Pierce, Anderson, Teletovic playing major minutes. That's five REALLY good 3pt shooters - we're going to shoot the 3 a lot (especially when we go small) and we're going to shoot it well. Please tell me why you think it's unsustainable. You keep bringing that up as if its fact.

because it is fact. look at the 3 point shooting during the 9 wins in 10 game span:

98-246 - 39.8%

thats 10 3's a game at 40% that is extremely hot and not sustainable. we have good 3 point shooting but we arent going to shoot 40% over an extended period. and our last 10 games since we have come back to the norm(34% from 3) we havent been nearly as good.

We absolutely have 26 losses already. But the majority of those losses came while we were in disarray, trying to figure out identity, Frank/Kidd were clashing, we were dealing with injuries. The team that was playing in mid-November literally has NO effect on what happens from here on out. ESPECIALLY since the East was so weak that we can still easily be 3/4 by the end of the year. So again, if you think those games where Reggie Evans and Brook Lopez got major minutes and Tyshaun Taylor was our starter is relevant in the grand scheme of things, I don't know what to tell you.

if you throw out november we still have a bad record. hell we are just a .500 team in our last 10 games. we have had one 15 game stretch where we played good basketball, and even then it took red hot shooting to do so. we havent been good recently and i see no reason why that trend wont continue... especially on the road and vs good teams

And you say you have to get to the playoff first before worrying about back-to-backs, do you think we won't make it to the playoffs? You do think the team is trash. I would love to bet major money with you on whether we make the playoffs or not. Since you think the team is dog trash, it should be an easy bet right?

i dont know if we will make the playoffs because its hard to tell what the bobcats and knicks will do. those are bad teams as well. but, i would bet money/sig bet/whatever that we dont finish above .500, there is no chance of that happening unless we make a major trade

[CalamityX12]

When the Nets blow them out, are you guys going to shut up? Or just talk about how this is what they should've done and about how you were still right for assuming they'd lose to the worst team in the league?

Serious question.

Blowing out the Utah Jazz does not forgive nor reprimand the current season... what does blowing out the Utah Jazz mean or do for us?

beat teams like chicago and toronto... then discussion can take place

[BK nets BK]

When the Nets blow them out, are you guys going to shut up? Or just talk about how this is what they should've done and about how you were still right for assuming they'd lose to the worst team in the league?

Serious question.

lol at this guy

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[MGrand15]

When the Nets blow them out, are you guys going to shut up? Or just talk about how this is what they should've done and about how you were still right for assuming they'd lose to the worst team in the league?

Serious question.

lol at this guy

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I'm serious tho... what's the point of running around talking about how we're going to lose if you don't actually believe it?

And Prok, you may want to check our 3pt% numbers month-by-month and also look at how those percentages stack up against the rest of the league. The Spurs shoot higher than that percentage for the entire season. It's not what I would call hot or unsustainable at all. Maybe a BIT better than what our average should be but like I said before, with Deron/JJ/Pierce/Mirza/AA on the team, we're going to shoot well. Not drastic enough to call it unsustainably hot or a fluke stretch.

[Prokorov]

When the Nets blow them out, are you guys going to shut up? Or just talk about how this is what they should've done and about how you were still right for assuming they'd lose to the worst team in the league?

Serious question.

lol at this guy

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I'm serious tho... what's the point of running around talking about how we're going to lose if you don't actually believe it?

And Prok, you may want to check our 3pt% numbers month-by-month and also look at how those percentages stack up against the rest of the league. The Spurs shoot higher than that percentage for the entire season. It's not what I would call hot or unsustainable at all. Maybe a BIT better than what our average should be but like I said before, with Deron/JJ/Pierce/Mirza/AA on the team, we're going to shoot well. Not drastic enough to call it unsustainably hot or a fluke stretch.

we arent the spurs. the spurs are shooting the 3 at a historic percentage and have designed their offense around shooting and making the corner 3, which they have done better then anyone in league history. we are no the spurs.

as far as us, we wont shoot 40% over the course of the rest of the season like we did during that winning stretch. nor will we make 10 a game like we did during that stretch. we will shoot it well, above league average, but that isnt enough. we are an average team, if we shoot hot we can win. that wont happen every game. when it doesnt we will lose.

im not sure why you think we are some good team. especially with how poor we have played the last 10 games and how awful we have been on the season. not to mention our older players are likely to hit a wall late in the season now with the insane road trips coming up

[MrDollarBills]

When the Nets blow them out, are you guys going to shut up? Or just talk about how this is what they should've done and about how you were still right for assuming they'd lose to the worst team in the league?

Serious question.

When they don't blow them out, will you still show your face?

This team is awful. Accept that fact.

[Quiet-Dude]

The Jazz have a little streak going with 3 games including Miami, so i expect a close game with the Nets getting the W.

[Paradise]

A win here and we're the 6th seed and a half game behind Atlanta for 5th.

[De8]

we're gonna blow them out. one of you **** are going to say there's no way we do, but when we do it you better not say a **** word