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AK-47 Has Left The Team 

Post#1 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:38 pm

Andrei Kirilenko has left the Brooklyn Nets for their roadtrip as he has received several healthy scratches in recent games.

"Source says situation between Kirilenko and Nets probably won't be resolved until he's on another team," writes Stefan Bondy.

Lionel Hollins told the media on Friday that he's unsure if or when Kirilenko will rejoin the club on their road trip.


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Post#2 » by Paradise » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:43 pm

Not surprised. You can feel it was headed in this direction and Hollins is being ridiculous with it.

Atleast, hopefully we can try to get a big or swingman in return. We going to lose him for nothing at the end of the season anyways.
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Post#3 » by MGrand15 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:50 pm

No one is giving up anything for AK47. He's getting DNPs on an team that just lost 6 games in a row - everyone's going to assume he's useless. Then we're going to buy him out, he's going to sign with some team and be a key piece to their bench.
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Post#4 » by Lamak » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:59 pm

I'm not really sure about this situation. He can't really shoot well or shoot free throws, but to completely take him out the rotation is a little cold. Maybe he could have helped us win one of those past 5 games with his D and activity.
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Re: AK-47 Has Left The Team 

Post#5 » by jeff1624 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:17 pm

This franchise is a joke. Watch the Spurs pick up Kirilenko and rejuvenate him ALA Boris Diaw.
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Post#6 » by Keith Van Horn » Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:23 pm

Is it sad that I wish AK the best and somewhat hope the Nets continue to fail? Is there something wrong with me? I've become so jaded as a fan of this piss poorly run franchise.

Unless AK did something awful to disrespect the coaching staff or team, I can't see how the hell this is happening.
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Post#7 » by Keith Van Horn » Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:23 pm

and watch, we'll trade AK, who is expiring this year, for a longer, worse contract.... here it comes :noway:
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Re: AK-47 Has Left The Team 

Post#8 » by Paradise » Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:30 pm

macgyver893 wrote:Is it sad that I wish AK the best and somewhat hope the Nets continue to fail? Is there something wrong with me? I've become so jaded as a fan of this piss poorly run franchise.

Unless AK did something awful to disrespect the coaching staff or team, I can't see how the hell this is happening.

Really? I can. He's looked like Gerald Wallace 2.0 since preseason and dating back to last season. Having said that, there is no excuse to keep garbage like Anderson in the rotation and not giving Kirilenko a chance.
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Post#9 » by Matt007b » Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:37 pm

I come in peace..

But I'm confused what your GM/Coach is doing.. I realize he's not playing well *BUT* I think I remember him skipping a $10 million contract from the wolves to come to Brooklyn for $3 million.. plus a new coach/system/bad stretch of games..

If you guys don't want him I think the Jazz would easily take him back and play him coming off the bench..
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Post#10 » by tester551 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:44 pm

Portland has a deal for you.

AK-47 for Dorrell Wright. Both contracts are around $3.1 and both are expiring this summer. Both play SF/PF.

Wright give the Nets the shooting that they need & AK-47 gives Portland the slashing that they need.
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Post#11 » by NyCeEvO » Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:56 pm

Complete and utter nonsense.

I have no idea why Hollins hasn't even tried to give him serious minutes. The Nets are on a 5-game losing streak, Hollins has been complaining about effort, and he hasn't even looked to see if AK could help out or be more useful than the others have been.

Like Macgyver, I've become so jaded as a fan because everything this team does, from the players to the coaching staff to the GM, ends up becoming a problem in the end.

I don't even know what to say anymore. I'm beyond the point of disappointment with them...I'm just apathetic and nonplussed about everything they do.
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Post#12 » by NyCeEvO » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:06 pm

Paradise wrote:
macgyver893 wrote:Is it sad that I wish AK the best and somewhat hope the Nets continue to fail? Is there something wrong with me? I've become so jaded as a fan of this piss poorly run franchise.

Unless AK did something awful to disrespect the coaching staff or team, I can't see how the hell this is happening.

Really? I can. He's looked like Gerald Wallace 2.0 since preseason and dating back to last season. Having said that, there is no excuse to keep garbage like Anderson in the rotation and not giving Kirilenko a chance.

AK has played a total of 36 minutes in 7 games. 17 of those minutes came within the first two games and he hasn't touched the floor in the last 3 games.

Wallace was a 2 season nightmare that cost us $40mil and a 6th overall pick.
AK dropped $7mil+ just to come to the Nets.

The least management could do is tell Hollins to give him some burn for being a good citizen especially while the team is playing like hot garbage. There's no reason for Hollins to be so stubborn when none of the players (with the exception of Bogs) is playing well.

It's a PR mess all around that could've easily been avoided.
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Re: AK-47 Has Left The Team 

Post#13 » by Paradise » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:23 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:
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macgyver893 wrote:Is it sad that I wish AK the best and somewhat hope the Nets continue to fail? Is there something wrong with me? I've become so jaded as a fan of this piss poorly run franchise.

Unless AK did something awful to disrespect the coaching staff or team, I can't see how the hell this is happening.

Really? I can. He's looked like Gerald Wallace 2.0 since preseason and dating back to last season. Having said that, there is no excuse to keep garbage like Anderson in the rotation and not giving Kirilenko a chance.

AK has played a total of 36 minutes in 7 games. 17 of those minutes came within the first two games and he hasn't touched the floor in the last 3 games.

Wallace was a 2 season nightmare that cost us $40mil and a 6th overall pick.
AK dropped $7mil+ just to come to the Nets.

The least management could do is tell Hollins to give him some burn for being a good citizen especially while the team is playing like hot garbage. There's no reason for Hollins to be so stubborn when none of the players (with the exception of Bogs) is playing well.

It's a PR mess all around that could've easily been avoided.

The phrase is basketball dumb. Management is only good for promoting, signing deals, creating a business brand and there is nothing wrong with that but when it comes to the logistics of basketball related duties, they are stupid as can be and Proky is responsible.

This franchise will continue to do dumb s*** until a Doc Rivers or Phil Jackson authority figure steps in with full control over basketball operations.
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Post#14 » by MGrand15 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:27 pm

Situations like this never turn around but I'm really hoping MGMT and Hollins talk about this. AK deserves at least all of the backup SF minutes. He might even need backup PF minutes if we're going to continue to play JOE JOHNSON at PF against shooting 4s. Perfect situations for AK. Maybe if Hollins says he was just trying to play more shooters but he's going to put him in the rotation - AK will return?

Doubtful. I wonder what sort of Jedi mind trick AA pulls to trick coaches into ignoring his mistakes.
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Post#15 » by MGrand15 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:29 pm

Management signed AK47 to such a bargain deal that teams wanted it investigated. How can you blame them for this? This is on the coaches.
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Post#16 » by NyCeEvO » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:39 pm

MGrand15 wrote:Management signed AK47 to such a bargain deal that teams wanted it investigated.

Doesn't matter how good the deal is if you're not even going to play the player.

How can you blame them for this? This is on the coaches.

Many of the team related issues have been discussed through Billy King in the past. He hasn't said a word about this situation even though it's been brewing for a while.

It also doesn't look good when the Nets talk about establishing a relationship with Russian players and yet deciding to diss their best player.

Yes, it's primarily Hollins' fault but management can easily step in and do something about it. Instead, they're just letting things get worse.
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Post#17 » by NyCeEvO » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:45 pm

Paradise wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:
Paradise wrote:Really? I can. He's looked like Gerald Wallace 2.0 since preseason and dating back to last season. Having said that, there is no excuse to keep garbage like Anderson in the rotation and not giving Kirilenko a chance.

AK has played a total of 36 minutes in 7 games. 17 of those minutes came within the first two games and he hasn't touched the floor in the last 3 games.

Wallace was a 2 season nightmare that cost us $40mil and a 6th overall pick.
AK dropped $7mil+ just to come to the Nets.

The least management could do is tell Hollins to give him some burn for being a good citizen especially while the team is playing like hot garbage. There's no reason for Hollins to be so stubborn when none of the players (with the exception of Bogs) is playing well.

It's a PR mess all around that could've easily been avoided.

The phrase is basketball dumb. Management is only good for promoting, signing deals, creating a business brand and there is nothing wrong with that but when it comes to the logistics of basketball related duties, they are stupid as can be and Proky is responsible.

This franchise will continue to do dumb s*** until a Doc Rivers or Phil Jackson authority figure steps in with full control over basketball operations.

And you know what bothers me the most?

When Proky was present at the game, he specifically mentioned how fantastic a job King is doing.

It's mindblowing and sad how inept management has been since Proky became owner especially considering his willingness to spend.

This guy is a billionaire and he can't even see that the return on his player investments has been absolutely horrible but he praises King for being a good asset manager. SMH...
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Post#18 » by Paradise » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:56 pm

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NyCeEvO wrote:AK has played a total of 36 minutes in 7 games. 17 of those minutes came within the first two games and he hasn't touched the floor in the last 3 games.

Wallace was a 2 season nightmare that cost us $40mil and a 6th overall pick.
AK dropped $7mil+ just to come to the Nets.

The least management could do is tell Hollins to give him some burn for being a good citizen especially while the team is playing like hot garbage. There's no reason for Hollins to be so stubborn when none of the players (with the exception of Bogs) is playing well.

It's a PR mess all around that could've easily been avoided.

The phrase is basketball dumb. Management is only good for promoting, signing deals, creating a business brand and there is nothing wrong with that but when it comes to the logistics of basketball related duties, they are stupid as can be and Proky is responsible.

This franchise will continue to do dumb s*** until a Doc Rivers or Phil Jackson authority figure steps in with full control over basketball operations.

And you know what bothers me the most?

When Proky was present at the game, he specifically mentioned how fantastic a job King is doing.

It's mindblowing and sad how inept management has been since Proky became owner especially considering his willingness to spend.

This guy is a billionaire and he can't even see that the return on his player investments has been absolutely horrible but he praises King for being a good asset manager. SMH...

He sees the clean surface and not the layers of poop under it. Teletovic, Bogs, Plumlee, Johnson all being productive and this core reaching the playoffs is considered a good enough accomplishment. Prok doesn't see the squandered picks, slow starts, inept "Big 3" as a failure. It won't register until we finish with 50+ losses in these next two seasons.

I do honestly believe Proky truly means well but he shares the same clouded mindset of the other conglomerate of Nets fans. They refuse to admit this core sucks. We have good role players.
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Post#19 » by MGrand15 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:56 pm

Well, Memphis famously tried to get Hollins to play Ed Davis more and Hollins refused. This was after Memphis traded for him and he was in the middle of an excellent year with Toronto. It's also 10 games into his first season - I don't blame management for not wanting to dictate PT this early in the season. I have to blame Hollins when our 2nd unit is being crushed nightly and AK is benched for struggling a bit in his very limited minutes. I can blame management for a lot but this is squarely on the coach. I know that AK wouldn't bail if the communication between player-coach was strong.
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Post#20 » by NyCeEvO » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:28 pm

Paradise wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:
Paradise wrote:The phrase is basketball dumb. Management is only good for promoting, signing deals, creating a business brand and there is nothing wrong with that but when it comes to the logistics of basketball related duties, they are stupid as can be and Proky is responsible.

This franchise will continue to do dumb s*** until a Doc Rivers or Phil Jackson authority figure steps in with full control over basketball operations.

And you know what bothers me the most?

When Proky was present at the game, he specifically mentioned how fantastic a job King is doing.

It's mindblowing and sad how inept management has been since Proky became owner especially considering his willingness to spend.

This guy is a billionaire and he can't even see that the return on his player investments has been absolutely horrible but he praises King for being a good asset manager. SMH...

He sees the clean surface and not the layers of poop under it. Teletovic, Bogs, Plumlee, Johnson all being productive and this core reaching the playoffs is considered a good enough accomplishment. Prok doesn't see the squandered picks, slow starts, inept "Big 3" as a failure. It won't register until we finish with 50+ losses in these next two seasons.

I do honestly believe Proky truly means well but he shares the same clouded mindset of the other conglomerate of Nets fans. They refuse to admit this core sucks. We have good role players.
That's it.

Dude...I checked the comments on that other site a few days ago and people were saying that it's too soon to say that the Nets are not championship contenders because we're only 11 games in.

I'm sitting there thinking 'In what world is it in conceivable that the Nets are even a top 4 team in the East, let alone championship contenders'. I had us pegged between 6-8 in the best case scenario.

Championship contenders? :lol:

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