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Cavs interested in lopez?
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:59 pm
by Prokorov
http://fansided.com/2014/12/22/clevelan ... bin-lopez/What about Brook for:
Varajao
Amundson
jones
Price
Kirk
Varajao would pretty much have to be there to make salary work. the rest all expire. i'd do it. andy and KG can provide energy and split time to keep each other fresh
Re: Cavs interested in lopez?
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:55 pm
by CalamityX12
I wouldn't... Too many players n possibly brook could return someone of more value
Re: Cavs interested in lopez?
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:30 pm
by MrDollarBills
Varejao is bad salary. I'd rather try to use Brook to acquire Lance while shipping D-Will out to the Kings.
Re: Cavs interested in lopez?
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:38 pm
by Shook Jones
Yup either Lopez for Lance or keep him and bring him off the bench.
Re: Cavs interested in lopez?
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:00 pm
by F3LON
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=nhb4moy Cleveland gets: Lopez, Mirza (In Bogans trade exception)
Cleveland gives: Waiters, Thompson, 1st rounder, Haywood and filler
Boston gets: Waiters, Cleveland 1st rounder and filler
Boston gives: Brandon Bass, Nelson (In AK trade exception)
Brooklyn gets: Thompson, Nelson, Bass, Haywood
Brooklyn gives: Lopez, Mirza
Why Cleveland does it?
Cleveland needs a 7-footer and get rid of Waiters. Thompson is expendable because they get back Mirza who fits as Love's backup floor spacer.
Why Boston does it?
Boston is stockpiling draft picks and young assets. They get Waiters and a draft pick for two older players who dont have a place in their future.
Why the Nets do it? Nets pick up two true PFs in Bass and Thompson who are both expiring deals. Nelson is a good veteran backup PG who will make trading DWill easier. Both Nelson and Bass played together in Orlando with Dwight and Plumlee's offense most resembles Dwight's. Thompson might be worth keeping around past this year but at worst he is a very capable PF. Haywood would be nice to have when we play big centers like Gasol and Valanciuas.
Plumlee - Jordan - Haywood
Garnett - Thompson - Bass
Johnson - Bogs - Davie
Karasev - Anderson - M Brown
Jack - Nelson - DWill (Trade next for a SG)
Re: Cavs interested in lopez?
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:15 pm
by MGrand15
I think if we know that Lopez is a bad rebounder and not an ideal defender - the Cavs probably know that too. The last thing they need is another scoring option who needs to ball in his hands and doesn't really do the little things. No chance the Cavs want Lopez.
Anyway, Varejao is an awful contract. After this year, Brook is owed 1 yr/17 million. After this year, Anderson is owed 3 yrs/30 million and he's probably MORE of an injury risk than Lopez. Terrible trade. Terrible short term and terrible long term.
Re: Cavs interested in lopez?
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:44 pm
by Shook Jones
Not interested in this move at all unless its a multi team deal. However I think the Nets will play the next couple of games with Lopez off the bench and if he destroys opposing backups he will stay on the team.
Re: Cavs interested in lopez?
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 3:13 am
by Albanian Damien
I don't think Cleveland would deal for Brook Lopez tbh. Yes they just lost their starting center but they're looking for a big man who hustles, and plays good defense. Brook does neither of those, and on top of that he demands the ball and chucks up a lot of shots which is even more counter intuitive for a team that has Bron, Irving, and Love
Re: Cavs interested in lopez?
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:00 am
by jeff1624
No way to make it work. Cleveland is already lacking depth with the Varejao injury, no way they trade Thompson, Waiters etc for one player.
Re: Cavs interested in lopez?
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 2:19 pm
by Keith Van Horn
would need another team. Cleveland (realistically) has nothing the Nets would want
Re: Cavs interested in lopez?
Posted: Sat Jan 3, 2015 5:44 pm
by Prokorov
Lopez has played well a couple games in a row. it would be unwise not to push extremely hard to trade him right now. He might not play any better/stay any healthier then he is right now.
Same with Dwill.
if we can move either of those without having to include plumlee or picks we should do it
Re: Cavs interested in lopez?
Posted: Sun Jan 4, 2015 2:26 am
by Keith Van Horn
I would be playing hardball for Love right now
Re: Cavs interested in lopez?
Posted: Sun Jan 4, 2015 3:46 am
by DarkXaero
Brook's value can further increase. He is slowly getting back into form, and playing really solid ball atm. You want that to continue, and even consider the option whether we might be better off holding on to him. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.
Re: Cavs interested in lopez?
Posted: Sun Jan 4, 2015 12:56 pm
by Prokorov
DarkXaero wrote:Brook's value can further increase. He is slowly getting back into form, and playing really solid ball atm. You want that to continue, and even consider the option whether we might be better off holding on to him. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.
how much better is he really going to get? its not like he is going to turn into a 24/12 player or something. his value has ALOT further it can go down (injury, hollins dog house) then it can up (return to 20/6, starting).
i dont see how we are better off keeping him, or at the very least how losing him would hurt based what we have seen this and last season. the entire board was calling to trade the guy when he was playing awful and then got hurt. a couple good games and now some knee jerk reactions. this is the best we could hope for, some decent play to help move him. he is sitll the same weak defense no rebounding black hole, he just had a small sample of good games in short minutes
Re: Cavs interested in lopez?
Posted: Mon Jan 5, 2015 2:22 am
by ecuhus1981
jeff1624 wrote:No way to make it work. Cleveland is already lacking depth with the Varejao injury, no way they trade Thompson, Waiters etc for one player.
This. Even if he were healthy, AV is Bron's BFF, and Tristan and James share the same agent. Besides, you would need 3 elite wing defenders around a Love/Lopez core. James was a legit DPoY a couple of seasons ago, but he isn't quite there anymore. Matrix can moonlight alongside LeBron, but Kyrie and anyone else you slot at the guard spots are turnstiles.