2nd Half Season Thread

[Mkdaman1818]

Hard to be optimistic after the way today went. Milwaukee, Miami, Boston, and Detroit all got better, and we definitely have an uphill battle to make the postseason. Couple that with a 5 game west coast swing that could decide our season, and I'm left to do nothing but irrationally hope that this team and their overpaid big three can pull it together and string some wins together.

Here's hoping we somehow sneak in.

[MrDollarBills]

You need to rename this thread "How the best team in the east in 2015 landed a lottery pick"

because that will be the end result.

[Trader_Joe]

Not sure the Bucks got better. MCW has yet to show he can win games in this league and it will be an adjustment. If anything we should be thankful Charlotte didn't get better as Miami isn't giving up a PO spot.

Detroit is another one I'm not sure got better right away. The Thunder were terrible with Jackson running the show and had his bigs calling him out for selfish play which is not good considering Detroit is all about their bigs. He can't shoot either and they don't have a quality SF. Prince is done and they lost Singler.

I think the 8th spot is coming down to Charlotte, Boston and us...but even then I think we need to sign someone like Blatche to help the push. T.Rob or Beasley are options as well...just another PF to help on the boards and ideally with some offensive game.

[kerry kittles]

Not sure the Bucks got better. MCW has yet to show he can win games in this league and it will be an adjustment. If anything we should be thankful Charlotte didn't get better as Miami isn't giving up a PO spot.

Detroit is another one I'm not sure got better right away. The Thunder were terrible with Jackson running the show and had his bigs calling him out for selfish play which is not good considering Detroit is all about their bigs. He can't shoot either and they don't have a quality SF. Prince is done and they lost Singler.

I think the 8th spot is coming down to Charlotte, Boston and us...but even then I think we need to sign someone like Blatche to help the push. T.Rob or Beasley are options as well...just another PF to help on the boards and ideally with some offensive game.

Agreed with everything you said and add in Paul George coming back for the Pacers in a month to those teams battling for the 8th seed as the Pacers are just a game behind us and at the end of the day i think we fall just short as the 9th seed. Very similar to the Knicks last year.

[CalamityX12]

From all the trades, were there any mentioning of players being bought out?

[Trader_Joe]

Not sure the Bucks got better. MCW has yet to show he can win games in this league and it will be an adjustment. If anything we should be thankful Charlotte didn't get better as Miami isn't giving up a PO spot.

Detroit is another one I'm not sure got better right away. The Thunder were terrible with Jackson running the show and had his bigs calling him out for selfish play which is not good considering Detroit is all about their bigs. He can't shoot either and they don't have a quality SF. Prince is done and they lost Singler.

I think the 8th spot is coming down to Charlotte, Boston and us...but even then I think we need to sign someone like Blatche to help the push. T.Rob or Beasley are options as well...just another PF to help on the boards and ideally with some offensive game.

Agreed with everything you said and add in Paul George coming back for the Pacers in a month to those teams battling for the 8th seed as the Pacers are just a game behind us and at the end of the day i think we fall just short as the 9th seed. Very similar to the Knicks last year.

Frogot about the Pacers.
I think we have about a 20% chance right now that goes up depending on how Young plays and if we can add another contributor.

For the 8th seed I got...

Charlotte - 30%
Indy - 20%
Brooklyn - 20%
Boston - 15%
Detroit -15%

I really don't see Miami dropping out and possibly even taking over the Bucks. I liked the value they got for Knight but Knight was playing well and MCW is a big risk.

[Paradise]

From all the trades, were there any mentioning of players being bought out?

Prince, Perkins, McGee, T. Robinson, Martin

[Mkdaman1818]

From all the trades, were there any mentioning of players being bought out?

Prince, Perkins, McGee, T. Robinson, Martin

If Martin is available, does it make sense to try and sign him instead of Blatche (assuming he is also available)?

[Zachbretton]

From all the trades, were there any mentioning of players being bought out?

Prince, Perkins, McGee, T. Robinson, Martin

If Martin is available, does it make sense to try and sign him instead of Blatche (assuming he is also available)?

Yeah if Martin is bought out its probably best we go after him, but the only issues is he'll be quite sought after... With Blatche we have the foot in the door.

Martin could prove more useful


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[MrDollarBills]

Not sure the Bucks got better. MCW has yet to show he can win games in this league and it will be an adjustment. If anything we should be thankful Charlotte didn't get better as Miami isn't giving up a PO spot.

Detroit is another one I'm not sure got better right away. The Thunder were terrible with Jackson running the show and had his bigs calling him out for selfish play which is not good considering Detroit is all about their bigs. He can't shoot either and they don't have a quality SF. Prince is done and they lost Singler.

I think the 8th spot is coming down to Charlotte, Boston and us...but even then I think we need to sign someone like Blatche to help the push. T.Rob or Beasley are options as well...just another PF to help on the boards and ideally with some offensive game.

Kidd as MCW's coach will turn him into a flat out STUD PG imo. Kidd probably is the one who pushed for that deal.

Charlotte and Boston are easily better than us. We're not making the playoffs with Joe Johnson on his last legs and Deron/Brook being flat out garbage.

[CalamityX12]

From all the trades, were there any mentioning of players being bought out?

Prince, Perkins, McGee, T. Robinson, Martin

Martin who? I'm missing that player from the trade checker....

McGee I assume is Alonzo...

If Prince has anything and I mean anything that would bear helpful, i'd look at him.

T-Rob... idk... not enough to care either way.

[Prokorov]

Not sure the Bucks got better. MCW has yet to show he can win games in this league and it will be an adjustment. If anything we should be thankful Charlotte didn't get better as Miami isn't giving up a PO spot.

Detroit is another one I'm not sure got better right away. The Thunder were terrible with Jackson running the show and had his bigs calling him out for selfish play which is not good considering Detroit is all about their bigs. He can't shoot either and they don't have a quality SF. Prince is done and they lost Singler.

I think the 8th spot is coming down to Charlotte, Boston and us...but even then I think we need to sign someone like Blatche to help the push. T.Rob or Beasley are options as well...just another PF to help on the boards and ideally with some offensive game.

of course detroit got better. PG was an enormous issue and playing an 1 way unatheltic midget wasnt going to get it done. before jennigns went down detroit was on tear. and jennings isnt exactly some unselfish great player. Jackson at worst is a minor upgrade for them.

Milwaukee is irrelevant, no chance we catch them upgrades or not. indy gets back george and was already playing better.

we have to fight miami, boston, charlotte, Indiana and detroit for 2 spots. i dont like our odds at all. i'd put our playoff chances at 2 or 3 %. joe and jack are gonna wear down and unless dwill turns into an allstar we are done

[Keith Van Horn]

It's going to be a grind to make the playoffs now with Detroit and Miami getting better. I think we can pass Charlotte.

We need our guys to step up, stay healthy, and play good basketball under Hollins. It's completely up to them. Who knows, we can see All Star Lopez and Deron, and then we can see pouty, 4th quarter bench warmer Lopez and Deron.

It's 50/50 at best that we qualify for the playoffs.


I'm curious to see if our fantastic GM makes any other moves. Can we make a move for Blatche to help with bench production? What about Thomas Robinson? Didn't BK have a hard on for him, and that's why the pick he gave away to Portland was a top 4 protect pick? Do we pick up anyone else that's been bought out?

[MrDollarBills]

It's going to be a grind to make the playoffs now with Detroit and Miami getting better. I think we can pass Charlotte.

We need our guys to step up, stay healthy, and play good basketball under Hollins. It's completely up to them. Who knows, we can see All Star Lopez and Deron, and then we can see pouty, 4th quarter bench warmer Lopez and Deron.

It's 50/50 at best that we qualify for the playoffs.


I'm curious to see if our fantastic GM makes any other moves. Can we make a move for Blatche to help with bench production? What about Thomas Robinson? Didn't BK have a hard on for him, and that's why the pick he gave away to Portland was a top 4 protect pick? Do we pick up anyone else that's been bought out?

Asking Lopez and Deron to step up, stay healthy, and play good basketball consistently is like asking the Sun not to rise in the morning.

[Palmeirense]

From all the trades, were there any mentioning of players being bought out?

Prince, Perkins, McGee, T. Robinson, Martin

Martin who? I'm missing that player from the trade checker....

McGee I assume is Alonzo...

If Prince has anything and I mean anything that would bear helpful, i'd look at him.

T-Rob... idk... not enough to care either way.

K-mart

[Prokorov]

Brook Lopez needs to start again. We need to go big.

Jack|Williams
Johnson
Young
Plumlee
Lopez

Cant put thad at the 4. We wouldnt be able to rebound enough. he doesnt fit particularly well with either of our centers. I say just go big. that lineup has halfcourt players as well as 2 guys who can run and jump. If blatche is here and you want to start him in place of plumlee or brook im cool with that.

but the bottom line is we need to go big. We dont have the shooting, so we need to go with size.

[Mkdaman1818]

Brook Lopez needs to start again. We need to go big.

Jack|Williams
Johnson
Young
Plumlee
Lopez

Cant put thad at the 4. We wouldnt be able to rebound enough. he doesnt fit particularly well with either of our centers. I say just go big. that lineup has halfcourt players as well as 2 guys who can run and jump. If blatche is here and you want to start him in place of plumlee or brook im cool with that.

but the bottom line is we need to go big. We dont have the shooting, so we need to go with size.

Who comes off the bench when Plumlee and lopez need a rest? Jordan and Jefferson?

[MrDollarBills]

Brook Lopez needs to start again. We need to go big.

Jack|Williams
Johnson
Young
Plumlee
Lopez

Cant put thad at the 4. We wouldnt be able to rebound enough. he doesnt fit particularly well with either of our centers. I say just go big. that lineup has halfcourt players as well as 2 guys who can run and jump. If blatche is here and you want to start him in place of plumlee or brook im cool with that.

but the bottom line is we need to go big. We dont have the shooting, so we need to go with size.

Who comes off the bench when Plumlee and lopez need a rest? Jordan and Jefferson?

We have no choice.

[MGrand15]

This isn't 1995. We play Thad Young at SF and Jack at PG - we're NEVER going to score. Spacing isn't the most important thing in basketball but if you're not getting spacing from your PF - you BETTER have good to great shooting at 1 to 3.

Last year we weren't great rebounding but he made up for it with opposing TOs, limiting our TOs, playing solid defense and executing on offense. That's how it's got to be with this team. Rebounding doesn't matter if you can't score.

Anyway,

I really want to see if Jack is going to lose his starting spot due to injury like Deron did. Deron's starting tonight but I have the suspicion that Hollins is bringing Jack right back into the starting lineup no matter what when he's healthy.

And just to remind the Deron haters - yes, he was starting until he got injured. That's just fact.

[Trader_Joe]

Not sure the Bucks got better. MCW has yet to show he can win games in this league and it will be an adjustment. If anything we should be thankful Charlotte didn't get better as Miami isn't giving up a PO spot.

Detroit is another one I'm not sure got better right away. The Thunder were terrible with Jackson running the show and had his bigs calling him out for selfish play which is not good considering Detroit is all about their bigs. He can't shoot either and they don't have a quality SF. Prince is done and they lost Singler.

I think the 8th spot is coming down to Charlotte, Boston and us...but even then I think we need to sign someone like Blatche to help the push. T.Rob or Beasley are options as well...just another PF to help on the boards and ideally with some offensive game.

Kidd as MCW's coach will turn him into a flat out STUD PG imo. Kidd probably is the one who pushed for that deal.

Charlotte and Boston are easily better than us. We're not making the playoffs with Joe Johnson on his last legs and Deron/Brook being flat out garbage.

I do too, but I don't see it happening right away. It's going to be an adjustment period for some time.