2015 Off-season Thread

[Paradise]

Our season is done. Time to move on to phase 1 of the offseason.

Free Agents

Alan Anderson - PO
Brook Lopez - PO
Corey Jefferson - Team Option
Darius Morris - UFA
Jerome Jordan - UFA
Markel Brown - Team Option
Mirza Teletovic - RFA
Thaddeus Young - PO


Assets

1st round pick
2nd round pick
3 million TPE
2.3 million in cash
6.3 million expiring - Jarrett Jack



Nets Mock Draft Board

ESPN - Caris LeVert
CBS Sports - Tyus Jones
DraftExpress - Jarell Martin
BleacherReport - Justin Anderson


Non-Lottery 1st Round Options


Point Guard

1. Jerian Grant
2. Tyus Jones
3. Delon Wright
4. Kris Dunn
5. George Lucas


Shooting Guard

1. Caris Levert
2. R.J. Hunter
3. Timothe Luwawu
4. Rashard Vaughn
5. Buddy Hield


Small Forward

1. Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
2. Sam Dekker
3. Justin Anderson
4. Jake Layman
5. Aleksandar Vezenkov


Power Forward

1. Christian Wood
2. Bobby Portis
3. Trey Lyles
4. Montrezl Harrell
5. Jarell Martin

Center

1. Frank Kaminsky
2. Robert Upshaw
3. Jakob Poeltl
4. Dakari Johnson
5. Mouhammadou Jaiteh


The good news is some of these late 1st round prospects have lottery talent but their stock has dropped due to injuries and shooting slumps.

[KeithD]

Jarret Jack isn't expiring.

Look at any aging player who was an all star at some point in their career and thats who we can expect King to go after. Maybe trade or 2019 1st rounder to the Wiz for Pierce again? Or Sign Aaron McKie out of retirement for the MLE?

Pretty much just think of the worst care scenario and King will make it happen

[CalamityX12]

The day has come....

Defeat.

[jeff1624]

It's sad being a fan of this team right now, rooting for Atlanta not to win the lottery with our pick is the only thing to discuss. After that there's nothing. We don't have assets to move up in the draft, we have no cap space to even sign and trade for a player. We have no foreign prospect to gush over. No coach or GM firing and later hiring to discuss. But we have 2016 free agency to look forward to, I guess.

[MrDollarBills]

It's sad being a fan of this team right now, rooting for Atlanta not to win the lottery with our pick is the only thing to discuss. After that there's nothing. We don't have assets to move up in the draft, we have no cap space to even sign and trade for a player. We have no foreign prospect to gush over. No coach or GM firing and later hiring to discuss. But we have 2016 free agency to look forward to, I guess.

I actually hope that the pick somehow makes its way into the top 3 or 1st overall because the backlash against the Nets front office will be epic.

[CalamityX12]

It's sad being a fan of this team right now, rooting for Atlanta not to win the lottery with our pick is the only thing to discuss. After that there's nothing. We don't have assets to move up in the draft, we have no cap space to even sign and trade for a player. We have no foreign prospect to gush over. No coach or GM firing and later hiring to discuss. But we have 2016 free agency to look forward to, I guess.

I actually hope that the pick somehow makes its way into the top 3 or 1st overall because the backlash against the Nets front office will be epic.

sad and very sad part of me feels this way too... I think if something awful like were to happen, 1. being that it would be our luck, that MUST be the final straw to purge King away from our franchise.

[jeff1624]

It's sad being a fan of this team right now, rooting for Atlanta not to win the lottery with our pick is the only thing to discuss. After that there's nothing. We don't have assets to move up in the draft, we have no cap space to even sign and trade for a player. We have no foreign prospect to gush over. No coach or GM firing and later hiring to discuss. But we have 2016 free agency to look forward to, I guess.

I actually hope that the pick somehow makes its way into the top 3 or 1st overall because the backlash against the Nets front office will be epic.

I wish I could feel this way, but I already cringe whenever the Wallace/Lillard trade gets brought up. The only way I would root for this is if King is guaranteed to be fired if it were to happen. But Prokhorov doesn't know jacks*** about the NBA and King is apparently a great company man, so I doubt he's fired any time soon.

[NyCeEvO]

It's sad being a fan of this team right now, rooting for Atlanta not to win the lottery with our pick is the only thing to discuss. After that there's nothing. We don't have assets to move up in the draft, we have no cap space to even sign and trade for a player. We have no foreign prospect to gush over. No coach or GM firing and later hiring to discuss. But we have 2016 free agency to look forward to, I guess.

I actually hope that the pick somehow makes its way into the top 3 or 1st overall because the backlash against the Nets front office will be epic.

I wish I could feel this way, but I already cringe whenever the Wallace/Lillard trade gets brought up. The only way I would root for this is if King is guaranteed to be fired if it were to happen. But Prokhorov doesn't know jacks*** about the NBA and King is apparently a great company man, so I doubt he's fired any time soon.

Can you imagine if the one time where we're not intentionally trying to get the #1 pick we actually get it, but because King is a fool that #1 pick is gifted to the team with the best record in the league?

I don't know if King would get fired since Prokhorov is basketball dumb but that would definitely ensure that this is King's last stop as a GM. While I don't think any team would hire him if he were available now, I'm 100% sure no team would do so after that.

It's so freakin sad that we have to hope that we gift the #1 overall pick to the Hawks just to see if our team will fire Billy. Incredible...

[Prokorov]

Jarret Jack isn't expiring.

Look at any aging player who was an all star at some point in their career and thats who we can expect King to go after. Maybe trade or 2019 1st rounder to the Wiz for Pierce again? Or Sign Aaron McKie out of retirement for the MLE?

Pretty much just think of the worst care scenario and King will make it happen

Jack is essentially expiring, his last year can be bought out

[Prokorov]

This offseason is important.... the magic word for this offseason is:

DISCIPLINE

Do NOT add salary past next season to this team. dont move brook or joe if more years are coming back. ride out next year as a throw away season. Let Joe/Brook expire unless you can move brook for a pick and expirings. move jack for a pick if you can.

Do NOT extend thad young

Do NOT give mirza a deal

Stretch Dwill at seasons end.... the result heading into 16-17 would be:

plumlee - on rookie deal
markel - on rookie type money
CJ - on rookie type money
2015 1st - on his rookie deal
Bogs - at 3.5M
Karasev - at under 2M
Dwills contract at 7.4 M

thats all under 20 million. we'd have close to 50M to play with and could easily clear karasev/bogs for cap space in a second.

you extend thad, were in trouble. you extend brook, were in trouble. you move joe for guys with years, were in trouble

[Prokorov]

i'm hoping the hawks get a top 3 pick. I like they way they built thier team. they did things the right way... they didnt try and tank when it was the easy way out.

[MrDollarBills]

I actually hope that the pick somehow makes its way into the top 3 or 1st overall because the backlash against the Nets front office will be epic.

I wish I could feel this way, but I already cringe whenever the Wallace/Lillard trade gets brought up. The only way I would root for this is if King is guaranteed to be fired if it were to happen. But Prokhorov doesn't know jacks*** about the NBA and King is apparently a great company man, so I doubt he's fired any time soon.

Can you imagine if the one time where we're not intentionally trying to get the #1 pick we actually get it, but because King is a fool that #1 pick is gifted to the team with the best record in the league?

I don't know if King would get fired since Prokhorov is basketball dumb but that would definitely ensure that this is King's last stop as a GM. While I don't think any team would hire him if he were available now, I'm 100% sure no team would do so after that.

It's so freakin sad that we have to hope that we gift the #1 overall pick to the Hawks just to see if our team will fire Billy. Incredible...

The NY media may not care but the national media would ensure that the Nets become a laughing stock if that pick somehow ends up in the top 1-5, especially if the Hawks have a great playoff run. People will see that happen and not renew season tickets. The Nets need to suffer humiliation on a level that is so bad that hands will be forced.

I am seriously rooting for this to happen. Billy King and Mikhail Prokhorov need to be shamed in public. Enough is enough

[MGrand15]

This offseason is important.... the magic word for this offseason is:

DISCIPLINE

Do NOT add salary past next season to this team. dont move brook or joe if more years are coming back. ride out next year as a throw away season. Let Joe/Brook expire unless you can move brook for a pick and expirings. move jack for a pick if you can.

Do NOT extend thad young

Do NOT give mirza a deal

Stretch Dwill at seasons end.... the result heading into 16-17 would be:

plumlee - on rookie deal
markel - on rookie type money
CJ - on rookie type money
2015 1st - on his rookie deal
Bogs - at 3.5M
Karasev - at under 2M
Dwills contract at 7.4 M

thats all under 20 million. we'd have close to 50M to play with and could easily clear karasev/bogs for cap space in a second.

you extend thad, were in trouble. you extend brook, were in trouble. you move joe for guys with years, were in trouble

Basically this.

Some beat writers were trying to flip the Thad Young deal like a good thing. They talked about how resigning him this off season would be huge.

Completely agree with you. Extending Thad would be a HUGE mistake. The guy is solid but we don't need solid guys that are looking for big contracts.

Stretching DWill with the cap rising would be smart. Mirza will probably move on but signing him for very cheap wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Still - if it comes to that - I'm sure he looks for a better situation or even Europe for more cash.

The only way I consider moving Joe or Brook for someone with more years is if it's a Lance Stephenson situation. Reasonably priced contract, young with potential. That ship has probably sailed though. Lance situations are once in a blue moon in the league nowadays.

[CalamityX12]

We have no control outside of a trade for Lopez in terms of Lopez's contract. Doesn't he have a PO? that's all on him, he'll most likely take it.

But who would trade for him....

[MGrand15]

Honestly, I'm not sure I'll be able to take the shame from the Draft Lottery stuff. The only thing people will talk about is how dumb the Nets are, how smart the Hawks, what a good position they're in, what an awful position we're in. I don't think I can continue following a squad like this. I 1000% prefer the 12 win team over what's going on now.

Considering we were in a rock solid position the end of last year - it's hard to believe how much has gone wrong. We lose Kidd - a great basketball mind who I was hoping would be our coach for the foreseeable future. We lose Livingston, Pierce, Blatche for nothing. Even after double offseason surgery and an extra spring in his step, Deron has the worst year of his career. Joe clearly regresses. Bogdanovic wasn't as ready to contribute as advertised. KG claimed he was ready for more minutes but couldn't do it. Brook starts shooting too many jumpshots and after looking awesome in the preseason - has the worst year of his career. Mirza ends up with blood clots in his lungs and regressed badly compared to last year. AK47 (after hyping up how healthy he was in the off season) is benched, never plays significant minutes, and is traded for nothing. To top it all off, ATL, who we envisioned as a 4-6 seed and a team we would definitely be better than - ends up being the best team in the league.

The one and only dimly bright spot was Mason Plumlee proving that he was a starting center. But considering the way he started the year and the way he's ending this year - I'm not sure I could call that a bright spot.

Literally everything went wrong. We' made no significant trades. We have no good picks. Nothing. I'm not sure I could support a team in this position with my time and energy.

[F3LON]

I think it's almost certain that DWill will be stretched this off season. We can stretch DWill's salary out for 5 years at 8.7 mil.

Lopez will either opt out or be traded. I dont think the Nets want him here anymore. If we could trade him to a team like the Lakers without taking anything back I would. It would give us a large trade exception going into next year that we could use to get a jump on 2016 Free Agency. Say for example that Horford plays it coy on if he will resign with Atlanta. Atlanta might jump the gun and trade him. Or maybe a team looking to clear cap looking to dump salary in anticipation for 2016 would send us picks for taking on an onerous contract. A large trade exception would be great value.

I think JJ will either be back or traded this off season. JJ cant be stretched because his contract is from the previous CBA. I could see a trade with NO centered around Eric Gordon.

Young will probably be resigned if Billy King is still the GM. Young is one of King's guys going back to when he drafted him. I can see Young getting 4yr/40 mil.

Mirza should either be renounced or sign and traded out. He has been a disaster as a Net and he really doesnt have a role here if we resign Young. I doubt we would want to have 2 undersized PFs on big contracts. Not to mention the health risk. I think he goes back to Europe where he can be the focal point of a team again. He wont get that opportunity in the NBA.

If we stretch DWill and Lopez opts out then I could see us dumping Jack (maybe Washington) so we can sign a FA.

[F3LON]

This offseason is important.... the magic word for this offseason is:

DISCIPLINE

Do NOT add salary past next season to this team. dont move brook or joe if more years are coming back. ride out next year as a throw away season. Let Joe/Brook expire unless you can move brook for a pick and expirings. move jack for a pick if you can.

Do NOT extend thad young

Do NOT give mirza a deal

Stretch Dwill at seasons end.... the result heading into 16-17 would be:

plumlee - on rookie deal
markel - on rookie type money
CJ - on rookie type money
2015 1st - on his rookie deal
Bogs - at 3.5M
Karasev - at under 2M
Dwills contract at 7.4 M

thats all under 20 million. we'd have close to 50M to play with and could easily clear karasev/bogs for cap space in a second.

you extend thad, were in trouble. you extend brook, were in trouble. you move joe for guys with years, were in trouble

DWill would be around 8.7 for 5 years if he is stretched

[Prokorov]

I think it's almost certain that DWill will be stretched this off season. We can stretch DWill's salary out for 5 years at 8.7 mil.

its smarter to stretch for 3 years at 7.4M a year later
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[MrDollarBills]

Honestly, I'm not sure I'll be able to take the shame from the Draft Lottery stuff. The only thing people will talk about is how dumb the Nets are, how smart the Hawks, what a good position they're in, what an awful position we're in. I don't think I can continue following a squad like this. I 1000% prefer the 12 win team over what's going on now.

Considering we were in a rock solid position the end of last year - it's hard to believe how much has gone wrong. We lose Kidd - a great basketball mind who I was hoping would be our coach for the foreseeable future. We lose Livingston, Pierce, Blatche for nothing. Even after double offseason surgery and an extra spring in his step, Deron has the worst year of his career. Joe clearly regresses. Bogdanovic wasn't as ready to contribute as advertised. KG claimed he was ready for more minutes but couldn't do it. Brook starts shooting too many jumpshots and after looking awesome in the preseason - has the worst year of his career. Mirza ends up with blood clots in his lungs and regressed badly compared to last year. AK47 (after hyping up how healthy he was in the off season) is benched, never plays significant minutes, and is traded for nothing. To top it all off, ATL, who we envisioned as a 4-6 seed and a team we would definitely be better than - ends up being the best team in the league.

The one and only dimly bright spot was Mason Plumlee proving that he was a starting center. But considering the way he started the year and the way he's ending this year - I'm not sure I could call that a bright spot.

Literally everything went wrong. We' made no significant trades. We have no good picks. Nothing. I'm not sure I could support a team in this position with my time and energy.

Spot on. This is a disaster.

I will also say that Markel Brown and Corey Jefferson looking like they can develop into roleplayers are bright spots.

[Prokorov]

This offseason is important.... the magic word for this offseason is:

DISCIPLINE

Do NOT add salary past next season to this team. dont move brook or joe if more years are coming back. ride out next year as a throw away season. Let Joe/Brook expire unless you can move brook for a pick and expirings. move jack for a pick if you can.

Do NOT extend thad young

Do NOT give mirza a deal

Stretch Dwill at seasons end.... the result heading into 16-17 would be:

plumlee - on rookie deal
markel - on rookie type money
CJ - on rookie type money
2015 1st - on his rookie deal
Bogs - at 3.5M
Karasev - at under 2M
Dwills contract at 7.4 M

thats all under 20 million. we'd have close to 50M to play with and could easily clear karasev/bogs for cap space in a second.

you extend thad, were in trouble. you extend brook, were in trouble. you move joe for guys with years, were in trouble

DWill would be around 8.7 for 5 years if he is stretched

if you stretch him this offseason its 5 years, if you streatch him afte next season its only 3