GT: Nets @ Sixers - Saturday, 3/14/15 7:30pm

[Paradise]

The Little Three leads us into a tank war vs Philly

[Zachbretton]

I love how the during the pre-game they're reminding us how BAD Dwill and Joe have been during this depressing stretch... way to frame the night YES

[Paradise]

Robinson will look good in a Nets uniform next season

[Zachbretton]

GOD! Can we talk more about how JJack has become a cancer on this team? The second he comes in, the lead is gone because his lack of defense


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[Paradise]

Lol at Jack getting owned by Isisah Cannan

[jeff1624]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/haralabob/status/576900817438949376[/tweet]

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[jeff1624]

The only take away from this game: Sarah Kustok is MUCH better than Donny Marshall. Wouldn't mind have her doing color commentary when Jimm Spanarkle is away doing march madness.

[kamaze]

When Deron was out the starting unit didn't miss a beat with Jack after a productive season you call him a cancer. Maybe there's stats that show he's not.??
We're too tough on our players myself included.

The only take away from this game: Sarah Kustok is MUCH better than Donny Marshall. Wouldn't mind have her doing color commentary when Jimm Spanarkle is away doing march madness.

Ian would like that he was flirting with her hard.
She did a great job YES should have her a bigger role than just sideline reporter.

[Paradise]

Thad is such a breath of fresh air. Hard to believe he just turned 26. We need to extend him in 2016.

[Zachbretton]

Thad is such a breath of fresh air. Hard to believe he just turned 26. We need to extend him in 2016.

A lot disagree, but I feel the same way. So many times (since he's joined our team) after a bad shot or something, that can be rebounded... You see everyone else start running back down the court. Thad is the only one who cares to truly grab boards, be aggressive and stay on top of his role.

I love his presence and wouldn't mind him sticking around for a while


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[Zachbretton]

When Deron was out the starting unit didn't miss a beat with Jack after a productive season you call him a cancer. Maybe there's stats that show he's not.??
We're too tough on our players myself included.

The only take away from this game: Sarah Kustok is MUCH better than Donny Marshall. Wouldn't mind have her doing color commentary when Jimm Spanarkle is away doing march madness.

Ian would like that he was flirting with her hard.
She did a great job YES should have her a bigger role than just sideline reporter.

The other players are fine... It's Jack himself that really is the issue, takes 3's when he can't make them, refuses to even put a hand up when his guy takes a 3, never closes out, has bad handles.

He can be really effective in spurts and sometimes is just such a key spark for us, but the other 70% of the time his issues just compound everything else we do poorly and our team drops off like CRAZY.

Part of the reason (I feel) for Philly still being in is, 4 times, that I remember we just had no interest in closing out on his guy. Gave them easy three point shots. So annoying


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[MrDollarBills]

When Deron was out the starting unit didn't miss a beat with Jack after a productive season you call him a cancer. Maybe there's stats that show he's not.??
We're too tough on our players myself included.

The only take away from this game: Sarah Kustok is MUCH better than Donny Marshall. Wouldn't mind have her doing color commentary when Jimm Spanarkle is away doing march madness.

Ian would like that he was flirting with her hard.
She did a great job YES should have her a bigger role than just sideline reporter.

The fact that the only take away from this game is that a sideline reporter for the team that gets the lowest local TV ratings in the league is a decent color commentator speaks volumes about how bad this situation is.


Jarrett Jack gets PT because he is aggressive and can create his own shot.

That is the ONLY REASON why he is playing so much. Now you ask yourself why, and the cause is simple: Deron is a dog. Joe sucks. Lopez isn't a consistent offensive threat. Markel and Bojan aren't scorers. So Hollins has no choice but he plays this guy to the team's detriment because his defense is god awful.

We can sit here and pull up metrics and trash Jack but the real reason he is playing so much is because Dog, Judas, and Bitch Lopez don't bring it every night. Some people don't want to admit that cold hard fact but I will.

[MrDollarBills]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/haralabob/status/576900817438949376[/tweet]

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Again, why is a career journeyman being used so much and being relied upon so heavily?

Take one look at the production from "Brooklyn's Backcourt" and you'll understand why.

People wanna scream fire Hollins or blame Jack as to why the Nets are losing. Meanwhile, Deron and Joe have been out there collecting checks and not earning them, they've been horrible for most of the season. Brook coasts more times than not.

The dishonesty surrounding this team from this fanbase is nauseating. Absentee owner, inept GM, 3 max players that are all pussies, yet, the 4th coach in 5 years and a career journeyman are the scapegoats. No wonder the Nets front office screws around so much without a care in the world, all one has to do is hop online and check out where the fans direct their ire and you'd realize that the **** ing fanbase is dumb as the day is **** ing long.

[Zachbretton]

I don't think at this point you'll still find a smart Nets fans who thinks our big three are successful or helpful to our "success."

But we also can't ignore any of our other player based issues. Half of our roster is a mess and it's as clear as day


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[Paradise]

I don't think at this point you'll still find a smart Nets fans who thinks our big three are successful or helpful to our "success."

But we also can't ignore any of our other player based issues. Half of our roster is a mess and it's as clear as day


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You'll be surprised.

Wednesday: Pau Gasol vs Philly - 27 points/16 rebounds

Friday: DeMarcus Cousins vs Philly - 39 points/24 rebounds

Tonight:

Deron: 10 points (3/7)
Lopez: 10 points (2/7)
Joe: 15 points

Yet, most of the criticism is sorely on Hollins utilizing Jack instead of our 'max millionaires' being incapable of dominating a lottery team. I love to hear all difference of opinions but some of our fans are flat out tap dancing around the main issue.

[jeff1624]

I don't think at this point you'll still find a smart Nets fans who thinks our big three are successful or helpful to our "success."

But we also can't ignore any of our other player based issues. Half of our roster is a mess and it's as clear as day


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You'll be surprised.

Wednesday: Pau Gasol vs Philly - 27 points/16 rebounds

Friday: DeMarcus Cousins vs Philly - 39 points/24 rebounds

Tonight:

Deron: 10 points (3/7)
Lopez: 10 points (2/7)
Joe: 15 points

Yet, most of the criticism is sorely on Hollins utilizing Jack instead of our 'max millionaires' being incapable of dominating a lottery team. I love to hear all difference of opinions but some of our fans are flat out tap dancing around the main issue.

I posted those tweets criticizing Jack because some people here just fail to accept that he's been a complete negative for this team. It had nothing to do with tonights game since I was only box score watching because I was busy for the first three quarters of the game.

And I don't remember once saying that the team's only problem was Jack. The reason I talk about it so much is because if I didn't it would be completely ignored here. Any time Deron messes up you have a lot of people calling him out. Same for Brook and now people are starting to finally do it with Joe. Jack has the worst plus/minus of any player on a non tanking team. While Deron, Joe and Brook (to a lesser extent) have had bad/down seasons, I still think they'd be 4-5 games better if Jack weren't on the team. All three of our most important players produce even less with Jack running the offense and any other coach would have already realized that, yet we have one of if not the most stubborn coach in the league. That is why I talk about it so much.

It has nothing to do with defending our sh***y big three.

[Paradise]

I don't think at this point you'll still find a smart Nets fans who thinks our big three are successful or helpful to our "success."

But we also can't ignore any of our other player based issues. Half of our roster is a mess and it's as clear as day


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You'll be surprised.

Wednesday: Pau Gasol vs Philly - 27 points/16 rebounds

Friday: DeMarcus Cousins vs Philly - 39 points/24 rebounds

Tonight:

Deron: 10 points (3/7)
Lopez: 10 points (2/7)
Joe: 15 points

Yet, most of the criticism is sorely on Hollins utilizing Jack instead of our 'max millionaires' being incapable of dominating a lottery team. I love to hear all difference of opinions but some of our fans are flat out tap dancing around the main issue.

I posted those tweets criticizing Jack because some people here just fail to accept that he's been a complete negative for this team. It had nothing to do with tonights game since I was only box score watching because I was busy for the first three quarters of the game.

And I don't remember once saying that the team's only problem was Jack. The reason I talk about it so much is because if I didn't it would be completely ignored here. Any time Deron messes up you have a lot of people calling him out. Same for Brook and now people are starting to finally do it with Joe. Jack has the worst plus/minus of any player on a non tanking team. While Deron, Joe and Brook (to a lesser extent) have had bad/down seasons, I still think they'd be 4-5 games better if Jack weren't on the team. All three of our most important players produce even less with Jack running the offense and any other coach would have already realized that, yet we have one of if not the most stubborn coach in the league. That is why I talk about it so much.

It has nothing to do with defending our sh***y big three.

Jack is a journeyman. Everyone and their mama knows he's not good but his incredibly embarrassing plus/minus has more to do with our overuse of him more than anything. Who the hell are we going to use if Jack gets benched? Morris is terrible and Markel is not a PG.

The reality is Jack is being used alot more because Jack does everything scoring wise that Deron/Joe is supposed to do and that is what keeps him on the floor. If Deron and Joe were vastly more productive and not a bunch of passive aggressive zombies on the court, Jack would get alot less minutes. The worse those two look, the bigger the role for Jack has gotten.

Also, Billy King had a chance to ship him out and get a Top 20 1st rounder. I would like to believe Billy knows Jack is not good as well. He shipped out Jason Terry when he was stinking up the joint. So, blaming Hollins because he is the coach is understandable but it's also misguided. It starts with King delusionally thinking losing Jack would somehow hurt our team.

[MrDollarBills]

I don't think at this point you'll still find a smart Nets fans who thinks our big three are successful or helpful to our "success."

But we also can't ignore any of our other player based issues. Half of our roster is a mess and it's as clear as day


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You'll be surprised.

Wednesday: Pau Gasol vs Philly - 27 points/16 rebounds

Friday: DeMarcus Cousins vs Philly - 39 points/24 rebounds

Tonight:

Deron: 10 points (3/7)
Lopez: 10 points (2/7)
Joe: 15 points

Yet, most of the criticism is sorely on Hollins utilizing Jack instead of our 'max millionaires' being incapable of dominating a lottery team. I love to hear all difference of opinions but some of our fans are flat out tap dancing around the main issue.

I posted those tweets criticizing Jack because some people here just fail to accept that he's been a complete negative for this team. It had nothing to do with tonights game since I was only box score watching because I was busy for the first three quarters of the game.

And I don't remember once saying that the team's only problem was Jack. The reason I talk about it so much is because if I didn't it would be completely ignored here. Any time Deron messes up you have a lot of people calling him out. Same for Brook and now people are starting to finally do it with Joe. Jack has the worst plus/minus of any player on a non tanking team. While Deron, Joe and Brook (to a lesser extent) have had bad/down seasons, I still think they'd be 4-5 games better if Jack weren't on the team. All three of our most important players produce even less with Jack running the offense and any other coach would have already realized that, yet we have one of if not the most stubborn coach in the league. That is why I talk about it so much.

It has nothing to do with defending our sh***y big three.

I don't think Jack's flaws should be ignored but the ONLY reason why they are so glaring is because he is forced to be relied upon because 3 guys that are taking up 80% of the team's cap have been PUTRID.

I'm tired of reading across the nets online fandom Jarret Jack this, Lionel Hollins that. The Nets **** ing suck because of Deron, Joe, and Brook not holding up their end of the bargain. PERIOD. No leadership. No aggressiveness. No urgency. Just lackadaisical play 4 out of 5 nights. It's the same song and dance that has been going on for three goddamn years. The way they have lost this year has been the same way they've lost games for the previous two years, the only difference now is the talent around them dropped so drastically and they are all declining at a breakneck pace so there's no way around it anymore.

If Jack wasn't on the team we'd probably have 4 or 5 less WINS. Because goddamn, someone has to step up when Dog Will disappears when the going gets tough or when Joe Judas stands in a **** ing corner sucking wind and not being engaged. Yes, he is a negative on the team but I also understand why he gets put in the game: THERE IS NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE. Joe johnson does not **** ing care. Deron Williams does not **** ing care. What else Hollins supposed to do? Because for all of Jack's boneheaded play, I see a guy who is at least trying to attack the defense while the team's so called stars go through the motions. Can't you all see this **** or are we watching two totally different teams?

Without or with Jack, the end result would still be the same. I'm sick of this **** ing team's so called stars, and I am sick of fans blaming everyone else instead of the real causes of the cancer that needs to be cut out

[MrDollarBills]

You'll be surprised.

Wednesday: Pau Gasol vs Philly - 27 points/16 rebounds

Friday: DeMarcus Cousins vs Philly - 39 points/24 rebounds

Tonight:

Deron: 10 points (3/7)
Lopez: 10 points (2/7)
Joe: 15 points

Yet, most of the criticism is sorely on Hollins utilizing Jack instead of our 'max millionaires' being incapable of dominating a lottery team. I love to hear all difference of opinions but some of our fans are flat out tap dancing around the main issue.

I posted those tweets criticizing Jack because some people here just fail to accept that he's been a complete negative for this team. It had nothing to do with tonights game since I was only box score watching because I was busy for the first three quarters of the game.

And I don't remember once saying that the team's only problem was Jack. The reason I talk about it so much is because if I didn't it would be completely ignored here. Any time Deron messes up you have a lot of people calling him out. Same for Brook and now people are starting to finally do it with Joe. Jack has the worst plus/minus of any player on a non tanking team. While Deron, Joe and Brook (to a lesser extent) have had bad/down seasons, I still think they'd be 4-5 games better if Jack weren't on the team. All three of our most important players produce even less with Jack running the offense and any other coach would have already realized that, yet we have one of if not the most stubborn coach in the league. That is why I talk about it so much.

It has nothing to do with defending our sh***y big three.

Jack is a journeyman. Everyone and their mama knows he's not good but his incredibly embarrassing plus/minus has more to do with our overuse of him more than anything. Who the hell are we going to use if Jack gets benched? Morris is terrible and Markel is not a PG.

The reality is Jack is being used alot more because Jack does everything scoring wise that Deron/Joe is supposed to do and that is what keeps him on the floor. If Deron and Joe were vastly more productive and not a bunch of passive aggressive zombies on the court, Jack would get alot less minutes. The worse those two look, the bigger the role for Jack has gotten.

Also, Billy King had a chance to ship him out and get a Top 20 1st rounder. I would like to believe Billy knows Jack is not good as well. He shipped out Jason Terry when he was stinking up the joint. So, blaming Hollins because he is the coach is understandable but it's also misguided. It starts with King delusionally thinking losing Jack would somehow hurt our team.

This. THIS. THIS!

This is not rocket science here. The only reason why Jack is being given so many minutes and used as a scoring option is because the guys who are supposed to do the scoring aren't doing it


Deron and Joe are lucky that the Nets aren't held to the same standard as the Knicks are in New York because they're be nailed to a **** CROSS right now for the crap that they're pulling. Carmelo Anthony gets lambasted by the NY media and fans and he plays 10000x harder than these two pieces of **** and this was with a **** ed up knee!! This is appalling

[MGrand15]

If Deron is worth playing 32-34 minutes a game - that should be leaving only 14-16 minutes for Jack. I can't remember when he's been that low. If Hollins plays Jack 14 minutes a game and we still can't score for multiple games - okay, I'd buy the argument that we NEED to play him 25+ minutes. Until then? All the numbers speak for themselves. He actively hurts us. A LOT more then our big 3 does. He does so in very obvious ways. Hijacks the offense and doesn't play any defense.

The season is lost anyway so complaining about Jack, Hollins, Deron, etc. is just a waste of time. Altho I'm sure Billy King once again thinks the team'll turn it back around after a miraculous win against Philly.