Rondae Hollis-Jefferson Official Thread

[kamaze]

Atkinson decided to move Hollis-Jefferson from small forward to power forward, believing it would push RHJ. And push him it did.

I’ll dive on the floor for that guy. I’ll take a charge for that guy. That’s the type of respect he’s gained from us.”

[Curns13]

Covington may have just set RHJ’s price. Their stats are almost identical across the board, but Covington is already 27. 4 years, 60ish million might be what it takes.

[MrDollarBills]

Covington may have just set RHJ’s price. Their stats are almost identical across the board, but Covington is already 27. 4 years, 60ish million might be what it takes.

Yeah that's the market price and it will be paid, there's no way RHJ hits free agency. I'm getting really nervous now about our cap management due to the crabbe contract.

[TheNetsFan]

The beauty of the Covington contract is that they used their remaining cap space to give him a lot of that money ($15mil) this year. On the cap beyond this year, he's only on the books for $47mil over 4 years.

[Trader_Joe]

Covington may have just set RHJ’s price. Their stats are almost identical across the board, but Covington is already 27. 4 years, 60ish million might be what it takes.

Covington is much better than RHJ and should make more. He's an elite 3 point shooter and defender.

[Prokorov]

Covington may have just set RHJ’s price. Their stats are almost identical across the board, but Covington is already 27. 4 years, 60ish million might be what it takes.

Covington is much better than RHJ and should make more. He's an elite 3 point shooter and defender.

he is also 5 years older.

[Curns13]

Covington may have just set RHJ’s price. Their stats are almost identical across the board, but Covington is already 27. 4 years, 60ish million might be what it takes.

Covington is much better than RHJ and should make more. He's an elite 3 point shooter and defender.

Their per 36 numbers:

RHJ: 19, 7, 2, 1.5 and 1 (PER 18.7, TS% .589, WS/48 .143)
Covington: 20, 7, 2, 2 and 1 (PER 18.6, TS% .677, WS/48 .181)

I wouldn’t look at those numbers and say Covington is much better. Some of his advanced stats a a bit better (that TS% is unreal), but as Prok said, Covington is 5 years older and is playing on a much better team. RHJ is getting paid atleast 15M per year.

[Trader_Joe]

Covington may have just set RHJ’s price. Their stats are almost identical across the board, but Covington is already 27. 4 years, 60ish million might be what it takes.

Covington is much better than RHJ and should make more. He's an elite 3 point shooter and defender.

Their per 36 numbers:

RHJ: 19, 7, 2, 1.5 and 1 (PER 18.7, TS% .589, WS/48 .143)
Covington: 20, 7, 2, 2 and 1 (PER 18.6, TS% .677, WS/48 .181)

I wouldn’t look at those numbers and say Covington is much better. Some of his advanced stats a a bit better (that TS% is unreal), but as Prok said, Covington is 5 years older and is playing on a much better team. RHJ is getting paid atleast 15M per year.

There's no way he will, there's not the cap space out there to think anyone would give him that. He's still limited offensively which is a major reason why Roberson, one of the top perimeter defenders, only got $10m. RPM loves Covington #1 SF my a good margin. His ORTG is an insane 120. He's also two inches taller than RHJ.

[Curns13]

Covington is much better than RHJ and should make more. He's an elite 3 point shooter and defender.

Their per 36 numbers:

RHJ: 19, 7, 2, 1.5 and 1 (PER 18.7, TS% .589, WS/48 .143)
Covington: 20, 7, 2, 2 and 1 (PER 18.6, TS% .677, WS/48 .181)

I wouldn’t look at those numbers and say Covington is much better. Some of his advanced stats a a bit better (that TS% is unreal), but as Prok said, Covington is 5 years older and is playing on a much better team. RHJ is getting paid atleast 15M per year.

There's no way he will, there's not the cap space out there to think anyone would give him that. He's still limited offensively which is a major reason why Roberson, one of the top perimeter defenders, only got $10m. RPM loves Covington #1 SF my a good margin. His ORTG is an insane 120. He's also two inches taller than RHJ.

You absolutely cannot compare Roberson’s offensive side with RHJ’s, at 22 he is averaging more than twice as many points as Roberson has in any season of his career. And again RHJ is 4 years younger. What do you expect his extension to be?

[Trader_Joe]

Their per 36 numbers:

RHJ: 19, 7, 2, 1.5 and 1 (PER 18.7, TS% .589, WS/48 .143)
Covington: 20, 7, 2, 2 and 1 (PER 18.6, TS% .677, WS/48 .181)

I wouldn’t look at those numbers and say Covington is much better. Some of his advanced stats a a bit better (that TS% is unreal), but as Prok said, Covington is 5 years older and is playing on a much better team. RHJ is getting paid atleast 15M per year.

There's no way he will, there's not the cap space out there to think anyone would give him that. He's still limited offensively which is a major reason why Roberson, one of the top perimeter defenders, only got $10m. RPM loves Covington #1 SF my a good margin. His ORTG is an insane 120. He's also two inches taller than RHJ.

You absolutely cannot compare Roberson’s offensive side with RHJ’s, at 22 he is averaging more than twice as many points as Roberson has in any season of his career. And again RHJ is 4 years younger. What do you expect his extension to be?

~$12ish
I think the absurd contracts of two summers ago are over. Teams got greedy and had to make moves to dump deals. The cap hasn't gone up quite as much as expected so those contracts look even worse now. Less and less teams have cap space as a result. Maybe he gets up to $15, but I think RoCo is much more valuable and yes he's 4 years older, so he will be in his prime on that deal.

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[Paradise]

While the Nets have struggled to stay healthy of late – and win games, for that matter – one thing that’s going particularly well is the development of Rondae Hollis-Jefferson. Alex Squadron of the New York Post writes that the versatile forward has made progress in 2017/18. “It’s great to see,” head coach Kenny Atkinson says. “I have a special place in my heart for Rondae for some reason. We have a good relationship.“

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[MrDollarBills]

I'll have to remind myself when RHJ has another 20 point game that he's offensively limited.

[playteamball]

RHJ if he stays healthy and maintains his great attitude will become one of the best two-way players in the NBA. I'd take him on my team as a starting forward any day.

[shakendfries]

Rondae's future will be determined by his ability to find ways to contribute on O, & rise to the challenge of guarding the best opposing player.

[CalamityX12]

he's shot has been great for him, in comparisons...

hope he stays confident and aggressive.

[Prokorov]

Covington is much better than RHJ and should make more. He's an elite 3 point shooter and defender.

Their per 36 numbers:

RHJ: 19, 7, 2, 1.5 and 1 (PER 18.7, TS% .589, WS/48 .143)
Covington: 20, 7, 2, 2 and 1 (PER 18.6, TS% .677, WS/48 .181)

I wouldn’t look at those numbers and say Covington is much better. Some of his advanced stats a a bit better (that TS% is unreal), but as Prok said, Covington is 5 years older and is playing on a much better team. RHJ is getting paid atleast 15M per year.

There's no way he will, there's not the cap space out there to think anyone would give him that. He's still limited offensively which is a major reason why Roberson, one of the top perimeter defenders, only got $10m. RPM loves Covington #1 SF my a good margin. His ORTG is an insane 120. He's also two inches taller than RHJ.

its a lock RHJ gets at least 4/60 (probably more... id think 4/78) the only question is when. extend him this year or let him become a RFA.

roberson is hot trash. RHJ is much better offesnively and defensively he can gaurd bigs and smalls. RHJ is closer to dryamond green then he is roberson (not that he is all that close to green) but he is consideribly better then roberson. he is also 3 years younger then roberson... its is a joke to compare the two.

Roberson:
4.2 ppg
3.8 rebs
1.1 assists
47% FG
23% 3PT
30% FT (30 percent from the line!?!?! and 48.5% for his career. he makes shaq look like rick barry)
9 PER
50.4 TS%

Rondae
14.9 ppg
6.0 rpg
1.9 apg
48 FG%
25 3PT%
83 FT%
18.3 PER
58 TS%

Rondae is bigger, stronger, longer, more athletic, better in every aspect offensively, just as good defensively only with more versatility and as a bonus you can keep him on the floor when its close and late because he makes his free throws.

If roberson gets 10M for that kind fo trash offense RHJ easily gets 15M

[Prokorov]

There's no way he will, there's not the cap space out there to think anyone would give him that. He's still limited offensively which is a major reason why Roberson, one of the top perimeter defenders, only got $10m. RPM loves Covington #1 SF my a good margin. His ORTG is an insane 120. He's also two inches taller than RHJ.

You absolutely cannot compare Roberson’s offensive side with RHJ’s, at 22 he is averaging more than twice as many points as Roberson has in any season of his career. And again RHJ is 4 years younger. What do you expect his extension to be?

~$12ish
I think the absurd contracts of two summers ago are over. Teams got greedy and had to make moves to dump deals. The cap hasn't gone up quite as much as expected so those contracts look even worse now. Less and less teams have cap space as a result. Maybe he gets up to $15, but I think RoCo is much more valuable and yes he's 4 years older, so he will be in his prime on that deal.

0 chance 12M keeps RHJ. he will get much bigger offers. 22 year old 2 way players with his defensive versatility get paid. he will get at least demarre carrolle money. certainly more then roberson. 4/60 is the floor of what he gets. 4/78 is probably what we are looking at if he plays like he has. if they dont extend him and he improves next year who knows what he gets as an RFA

also you keep talking about teams not having money. there are a 6 teams that project to have max cap space and 19 with the ability to clear max cap space or will have it oragnically (i.e cleveland if lebron leaves, the lakes when they dont bring lopez back, etc...)

[Prokorov]

I'll have to remind myself when RHJ has another 20 point game that he's offensively limited.

15 ppg on 60 TS%

extremely limited offensively for sure

for crap and giggles:

Draymond Green career high ppg: 14
Draymond Green career high TS%: 58.7

Maybe we can go back to how he is to small to play PF or did we squash that now that he dominated so much defensively at PF that we have him playing a bunch at C in small ball lineups?

[Prokorov]

Rondae's future will be determined by his ability to find ways to contribute on O, & rise to the challenge of guarding the best opposing player.

statistically he has been our best offensive player... by a decent margin. i dont think contributing on O is really a concern. not to menton he is doing it without a very high usage.

His ceiling is draymond green/prime gerald wallce hybrid