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Nets 2016 Trade Thread 

Post#1 » by Prokorov » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:37 pm

Figured with the house cleaning at the mangement level and with the trade deadine 7 or so weeks away, time for a trade thread.

Some of the obvious pressing questions are:

1) Do we trade brook? is his promise from king that he wont be traded still valid? what kind of return would you want?

2) should we trade thad? what kind of return would you want?

3) should we go after flyer guys like ty lawson?

4) what players under long term contracts would we consider, if any, to be here longterm?
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Post#2 » by Net Sentence » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:49 pm

Prokorov wrote:Figured with the house cleaning at the mangement level and with the trade deadine 7 or so weeks away, time for a trade thread.

Some of the obvious pressing questions are:

1) Do we trade brook? is his promise from king that he wont be traded still valid? what kind of return would you want?

2) should we trade thad? what kind of return would you want?

3) should we go after flyer guys like ty lawson?

4) what players under long term contracts would we consider, if any, to be here longterm?


Maybe you missed the thread called 2015 Roster Moves.

No need for this to be opened
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Post#3 » by Prokorov » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:50 pm

Net Sentence wrote:
Prokorov wrote:Figured with the house cleaning at the mangement level and with the trade deadine 7 or so weeks away, time for a trade thread.

Some of the obvious pressing questions are:

1) Do we trade brook? is his promise from king that he wont be traded still valid? what kind of return would you want?

2) should we trade thad? what kind of return would you want?

3) should we go after flyer guys like ty lawson?

4) what players under long term contracts would we consider, if any, to be here longterm?


Maybe you missed the thread called 2015 Roster Moves.

No need for this to be opened


i didnt see it, i thought there was just an FA thread. my bad
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Re: Nets 2016 Trade Thread 

Post#4 » by Braggins » Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:17 pm

What do you guys think about this?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hmumwse

Brooklyn gets: Al Jefferson + Troy Daniels or PJ Hairston + 2016 1st (CHA/Top12protected*) + 2nd rd pick

Hornets get: Thaddeus Young + Bojan Bogdanovic

Why? You guys have no chance of making the playoffs and have given up most of your picks. Thad is your second best player, but you desperately need long term assets (since you aren't close to competing) and could use cap space and pick to start to rebuild around Lopez. Al and Troy are both expiring contracts, while Thad and Bojan are under contract for a while for 14 mil per season.

Charlotte is trying to stay in full on win now mode and they desperately need an upgrade in the front court. We also simply need more talent with MKG being injured for half of the season and other plays dealing with injuries. Bojan and Troy Daniels are both garbage, but we have been reported to have interest in Bojan for some reason, and he makes the salaries match perfectly. Charlotte hasn't drafted well or shown a lot of interest in letting raw players develop. I could see us giving up our 1st for a decent immediate talent upgrade. We also have a bunch of extra seconds to trade (at least one of yours).
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Post#5 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:30 pm

Braggins wrote:What do you guys think about this?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hmumwse

Brooklyn gets: Al Jefferson + Troy Daniels or PJ Hairston + 2016 1st (CHA/Top12protected*) + 2nd rd pick

Hornets get: Thaddeus Young + Bojan Bogdanovic

Why? You guys have no chance of making the playoffs and have given up most of your picks. Thad is your second best player, but you desperately need long term assets (since you aren't close to competing) and could use cap space and pick to start to rebuild around Lopez. Al and Troy are both expiring contracts, while Thad and Bojan are under contract for a while for 14 mil per season.

Charlotte is trying to stay in full on win now mode and they desperately need an upgrade in the front court. We also simply need more talent with MKG being injured for half of the season and other plays dealing with injuries. Bojan and Troy Daniels are both garbage, but we have been reported to have interest in Bojan for some reason, and he makes the salaries match perfectly. Charlotte hasn't drafted well or shown a lot of interest in letting raw players develop. I could see us giving up our 1st for a decent immediate talent upgrade. We also have a bunch of extra seconds to trade (at least one of yours).


Nah not feeling that.

How about this:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jokvo4b

BKN gets: Al Jefferson, Jeremy Lin, Jeremy Lamb, CHA 2016 protected 1st

CHA gets: Thad Young, Bojan Bogdanovic, Jarret Jack expiring contract.
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Post#6 » by Net Sentence » Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:31 pm

Braggins wrote:What do you guys think about this?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hmumwse

Brooklyn gets: Al Jefferson + Troy Daniels or PJ Hairston + 2016 1st (CHA/Top12protected*) + 2nd rd pick

Hornets get: Thaddeus Young + Bojan Bogdanovic

Why? You guys have no chance of making the playoffs and have given up most of your picks. Thad is your second best player, but you desperately need long term assets (since you aren't close to competing) and could use cap space and pick to start to rebuild around Lopez. Al and Troy are both expiring contracts, while Thad and Bojan are under contract for a while for 14 mil per season.

Charlotte is trying to stay in full on win now mode and they desperately need an upgrade in the front court. We also simply need more talent with MKG being injured for half of the season and other plays dealing with injuries. Bojan and Troy Daniels are both garbage, but we have been reported to have interest in Bojan for some reason, and he makes the salaries match perfectly. Charlotte hasn't drafted well or shown a lot of interest in letting raw players develop. I could see us giving up our 1st for a decent immediate talent upgrade. We also have a bunch of extra seconds to trade (at least one of yours).


Get the out of here troll. I wouldnt wipe my azz with this trade.
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Post#7 » by Braggins » Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:37 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Braggins wrote:What do you guys think about this?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hmumwse

Brooklyn gets: Al Jefferson + Troy Daniels or PJ Hairston + 2016 1st (CHA/Top12protected*) + 2nd rd pick

Hornets get: Thaddeus Young + Bojan Bogdanovic

Why? You guys have no chance of making the playoffs and have given up most of your picks. Thad is your second best player, but you desperately need long term assets (since you aren't close to competing) and could use cap space and pick to start to rebuild around Lopez. Al and Troy are both expiring contracts, while Thad and Bojan are under contract for a while for 14 mil per season.

Charlotte is trying to stay in full on win now mode and they desperately need an upgrade in the front court. We also simply need more talent with MKG being injured for half of the season and other plays dealing with injuries. Bojan and Troy Daniels are both garbage, but we have been reported to have interest in Bojan for some reason, and he makes the salaries match perfectly. Charlotte hasn't drafted well or shown a lot of interest in letting raw players develop. I could see us giving up our 1st for a decent immediate talent upgrade. We also have a bunch of extra seconds to trade (at least one of yours).


Nah not feeling that.

How about this:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jokvo4b

BKN gets: Al Jefferson, Jeremy Lin, Jeremy Lamb, CHA 2016 protected 1st

CHA gets: Thad Young, Bojan Bogdanovic, Jarret Jack expiring contract.

That is robbery. Thad isn't worth a 1st, three of our top five players, and a large expiring. Thats unrealistic value for a player of his caliber. Hes a 3rd/4th option on a good team, but that happens to be what we are looking for right now.

Didn't Jack tear his acl? I would actually be down for a Lin/Jack swap if Jack could play for us this season. Lamb is out of the question though. PJ Hairston instead of Troy Daniels would be acceptable, but they both suck so it doesn't matter.

14 million in cap space, a 1st, and a 2nd is actually a good haul for Thad.
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Post#8 » by Braggins » Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:48 pm

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Braggins wrote:What do you guys think about this?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hmumwse

Brooklyn gets: Al Jefferson + Troy Daniels or PJ Hairston + 2016 1st (CHA/Top12protected*) + 2nd rd pick

Hornets get: Thaddeus Young + Bojan Bogdanovic

Why? You guys have no chance of making the playoffs and have given up most of your picks. Thad is your second best player, but you desperately need long term assets (since you aren't close to competing) and could use cap space and pick to start to rebuild around Lopez. Al and Troy are both expiring contracts, while Thad and Bojan are under contract for a while for 14 mil per season.

Charlotte is trying to stay in full on win now mode and they desperately need an upgrade in the front court. We also simply need more talent with MKG being injured for half of the season and other plays dealing with injuries. Bojan and Troy Daniels are both garbage, but we have been reported to have interest in Bojan for some reason, and he makes the salaries match perfectly. Charlotte hasn't drafted well or shown a lot of interest in letting raw players develop. I could see us giving up our 1st for a decent immediate talent upgrade. We also have a bunch of extra seconds to trade (at least one of yours).


Get the out of here troll. I wouldnt wipe my azz with this trade.

Are you joking? I was simply asking a question, and if you really think that trade is outrageously in Charlottes favor then you have an unrealistic idea of your players actual trade value. Thad is good, but you guys probably aren't realistically competing for a playoff spot until he is 29/30 and might not get a lot of use out of him. The trade was basically two picks (one a valuable first round pick) and 14 million in cap space for Thad and guy with a 9 PER (that our front office is interested in for some reason?). If Thad is part of your long term plan then it is reasonable to not like the trade, but acting like it is absurd is pretty silly.

Its not even clear that it would be a good trade for Charlotte, but the front office is desperate and trying to compete for a playoff spot (probably foolishly...) Thad is pretty good, but not really an ideal fit for roster and the 1st round pick has a lot of value.
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Re: Nets 2016 Trade Thread 

Post#9 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:51 pm

You're trying to dump trash onto us for a guy putting up top 10 PF production, if the Nets weren't so bad overall he'd be an all star candidate. Check his numbers, and this isn't a contract year boost the guy is providing excellent value for his salary. Add that with Bojan who is a serviceable player and you're getting a good boost overall for your squad. I think its only fair to add in something a bit more than bums like Daniels/Hairston.

fine. How about Jefferson, Lin, and your 1st for Thad/Bojan? It works out.

Reason for Lin? Nets need PG depth for next season. Cap relief will only get us so far since we'll already have a ton of space as is.
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Post#10 » by Net Sentence » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:02 pm

Braggins wrote:
Net Sentence wrote:
Braggins wrote:What do you guys think about this?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hmumwse

Brooklyn gets: Al Jefferson + Troy Daniels or PJ Hairston + 2016 1st (CHA/Top12protected*) + 2nd rd pick

Hornets get: Thaddeus Young + Bojan Bogdanovic

Why? You guys have no chance of making the playoffs and have given up most of your picks. Thad is your second best player, but you desperately need long term assets (since you aren't close to competing) and could use cap space and pick to start to rebuild around Lopez. Al and Troy are both expiring contracts, while Thad and Bojan are under contract for a while for 14 mil per season.

Charlotte is trying to stay in full on win now mode and they desperately need an upgrade in the front court. We also simply need more talent with MKG being injured for half of the season and other plays dealing with injuries. Bojan and Troy Daniels are both garbage, but we have been reported to have interest in Bojan for some reason, and he makes the salaries match perfectly. Charlotte hasn't drafted well or shown a lot of interest in letting raw players develop. I could see us giving up our 1st for a decent immediate talent upgrade. We also have a bunch of extra seconds to trade (at least one of yours).


Get the out of here troll. I wouldnt wipe my azz with this trade.


Are you joking? I was simply asking a question, and if you really think that trade is outrageously in Charlottes favor then you have an unrealistic idea of your players actual trade value. Thad is good, but you guys probably aren't realistically competing for a playoff spot until he is 29/30 and might not get a lot of use out of him. The trade was basically two picks (one a valuable first round pick) and 14 million in cap space for Thad and guy with a 9 PER (that our front office is interested in for some reason?). If Thad is part of your long term plan then it is reasonable to not like the trade, but acting like it is absurd is pretty silly.

Its not even clear that it would be a good trade for Charlotte, but the front office is desperate and trying to compete for a playoff spot (probably foolishly...) Thad is pretty good, but not really an ideal fit for roster and the 1st round pick has a lot of value.


The trade sucks period.

Did you just randomly come up with top 12 protection or did you check the standings and see the Hornets are tied for the 12th worse record and figure that you will only get better and get to keep the pick.

And news flash, Hornets arent making the playoffs anytime soon either.

GTFO of here with your garbage.
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Post#11 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:05 pm

oh wait he wanted to protect the pick? lol that's not even negotiating in good faith
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Post#12 » by Braggins » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:23 pm

I made it pretty clear that is is foolish for Charlotte to try to gun for the playoffs this season, but they are no matter what. Like I said, that isn't even definitively a good trade for Charlotte. The pick protection was a minor aspect and would obviously be negotiable (it was completely arbitrary, again, only Billy King trades unprotected 1st round picks for non all stars). I'm not surprised though that Nets fans don't have a good understanding of the trade value of 1st round picks...

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Post#13 » by Net Sentence » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:51 pm

Braggins wrote:Wow, you guys are seriously dumb... I forgot teams were knocking down the door to trade you multiple picks and gut their roster for Thaddeus Young... Maybe whoever Billy King is GM for next will give you a deal like that lol.

I made it pretty clear that is is foolish for Charlotte to try to gun for the playoffs this season, but they are no matter what. Like I said, that isn't even definitively a good trade for Charlotte. The pick protection was a minor aspect and would obviously be negotiable (it was completely arbitrary, again, only Billy King trades unprotected 1st round picks for non all stars). I'm not surprised though that Nets fans don't have a good understanding of the trade value of 1st round picks...

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Post#14 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:25 pm

Braggins wrote:Wow, you guys are seriously dumb... I forgot teams were knocking down the door to trade you multiple picks and gut their roster for Thaddeus Young... Maybe whoever Billy King is GM for next will give you a deal like that lol.

I made it pretty clear that is is foolish for Charlotte to try to gun for the playoffs this season, but they are no matter what. Like I said, that isn't even definitively a good trade for Charlotte. The pick protection was a minor aspect and would obviously be negotiable (it was completely arbitrary, again, only Billy King trades unprotected 1st round picks for non all stars). I'm not surprised though that Nets fans don't have a good understanding of the trade value of 1st round picks...

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Gut your roster? You aren't even offering anything :crazy:

Don't come here trying to sh*t post and then think that you'll get the response you want. You already started off your proposal basically trying to kick this fanbase while we're down and then you basically offer nothing for a player putting up top 10 PF production.

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Post#15 » by Ror1997 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:37 pm

Nobody on this site values Thad Young aside from the Net fans (The people who actually know what they're talking about)

If you try to defend Young, you get shot down immediately with the Okay Player on a bad team argument. People are also quick to call his contract an over pay.
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Post#16 » by Braggins » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:45 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Braggins wrote:Wow, you guys are seriously dumb... I forgot teams were knocking down the door to trade you multiple picks and gut their roster for Thaddeus Young... Maybe whoever Billy King is GM for next will give you a deal like that lol.

I made it pretty clear that is is foolish for Charlotte to try to gun for the playoffs this season, but they are no matter what. Like I said, that isn't even definitively a good trade for Charlotte. The pick protection was a minor aspect and would obviously be negotiable (it was completely arbitrary, again, only Billy King trades unprotected 1st round picks for non all stars). I'm not surprised though that Nets fans don't have a good understanding of the trade value of 1st round picks...

Sorry I posted here lol


Gut your roster? You aren't even offering anything :crazy:

Don't come here trying to sh*t post and then think that you'll get the response you want. You already started off your proposal basically trying to kick this fanbase while we're down and then you basically offer nothing for a player putting up top 10 PF production.

anyway, your post has been flagged and reported. Post here again at your own risk.

Charlotte gutting their roster was referring to the proposal with them also giving up Lamb and Lin for a player with a torn acl. Lin and Lamb have been two of Charlottes best players and the entire point of the trade was Charlottes front office insisting on gunning for the playoffs and a scenario where the Nets decided to rebuild and wanted long term assets. It wouldn't make any sense for Charlotte to trade two of their best players and an unprotected 1st.

I think its hilarious that you think I'm sh*t posting... There probably isn't a single team close to the lottery that would give up just their unprotected 1st round pick for Thaddeus. Hes a good player, but he isn't an all-star.

How was I kicking you guys when you were down? My team has the longest active loosing streak in the NBA, their best player is out for most of the season, and the front office is still trying to gun for the playoffs.

Sure, our long term outlook is probably better, but that was the entire point of why your team might be interested in trading for picks and cap space. If that is the route your new front office wants to go, then a late lottery/mid 1st, a 2nd, and expiring contracts is actually pretty good value for Young. Youre delusional if you think that Thad Young would net an unprotected lottery pick, multiple 1sts, or an unprotected 1st and multiple young rotation players on value contracts. I'm not trolling, I'm just being honest.
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Post#17 » by Paradise » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:57 pm

Braggins wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Braggins wrote:Wow, you guys are seriously dumb... I forgot teams were knocking down the door to trade you multiple picks and gut their roster for Thaddeus Young... Maybe whoever Billy King is GM for next will give you a deal like that lol.

I made it pretty clear that is is foolish for Charlotte to try to gun for the playoffs this season, but they are no matter what. Like I said, that isn't even definitively a good trade for Charlotte. The pick protection was a minor aspect and would obviously be negotiable (it was completely arbitrary, again, only Billy King trades unprotected 1st round picks for non all stars). I'm not surprised though that Nets fans don't have a good understanding of the trade value of 1st round picks...

Sorry I posted here lol


Gut your roster? You aren't even offering anything :crazy:

Don't come here trying to sh*t post and then think that you'll get the response you want. You already started off your proposal basically trying to kick this fanbase while we're down and then you basically offer nothing for a player putting up top 10 PF production.

anyway, your post has been flagged and reported. Post here again at your own risk.

Charlotte gutting their roster was referring to the proposal with them also giving up Lamb and Lin for a player with a torn acl. Lin and Lamb have been two of Charlottes best players and the entire point of the trade was Charlottes front office insisting on gunning for the playoffs and a scenario where the Nets decided to rebuild and wanted long term assets. It wouldn't make any sense for Charlotte to trade two of their best players and an unprotected 1st.

I think its hilarious that you think I'm sh*t posting... There probably isn't a single team close to the lottery that would give up just their unprotected 1st round pick for Thaddeus. Hes a good player, but he isn't an all-star.

How was I kicking you guys when you were down? My team has the longest active loosing streak in the NBA, their best player is out for most of the season, and the front office is still trying to gun for the playoffs.

Sure, our long term outlook is probably better, but that was the entire point of why your team might be interested in trading for picks and cap space. If that is the route your new front office wants to go, then a late lottery/mid 1st, a 2nd, and expiring contracts is actually pretty good value for Young. Youre delusional if you think that Thad Young would net an unprotected lottery pick, multiple 1sts, or an unprotected 1st and multiple young rotation players on value contracts. I'm not trolling, I'm just being honest.

My turn to be "honest"...I think it's hilarious you think that's a fair deal and seriously risking getting suspended for it. Kudos to the dedication of fleecing.

Thad is having an all-star caliber season. He's been a Top 10 PF this season. Offering a Top 12 protected pick when the Hornets are dangerously close to missing the playoffs and keeping the pick is not going to get it done. Sorry. It's pointless. We may look to acquire assets but we aren't desperate to make lopsided deals in favor of Charlotte.
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Re: Nets 2016 Trade Thread 

Post#18 » by Braggins » Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:16 pm

Paradise wrote:
Braggins wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Gut your roster? You aren't even offering anything :crazy:

Don't come here trying to sh*t post and then think that you'll get the response you want. You already started off your proposal basically trying to kick this fanbase while we're down and then you basically offer nothing for a player putting up top 10 PF production.

anyway, your post has been flagged and reported. Post here again at your own risk.

Charlotte gutting their roster was referring to the proposal with them also giving up Lamb and Lin for a player with a torn acl. Lin and Lamb have been two of Charlottes best players and the entire point of the trade was Charlottes front office insisting on gunning for the playoffs and a scenario where the Nets decided to rebuild and wanted long term assets. It wouldn't make any sense for Charlotte to trade two of their best players and an unprotected 1st.

I think its hilarious that you think I'm sh*t posting... There probably isn't a single team close to the lottery that would give up just their unprotected 1st round pick for Thaddeus. Hes a good player, but he isn't an all-star.

How was I kicking you guys when you were down? My team has the longest active loosing streak in the NBA, their best player is out for most of the season, and the front office is still trying to gun for the playoffs.

Sure, our long term outlook is probably better, but that was the entire point of why your team might be interested in trading for picks and cap space. If that is the route your new front office wants to go, then a late lottery/mid 1st, a 2nd, and expiring contracts is actually pretty good value for Young. Youre delusional if you think that Thad Young would net an unprotected lottery pick, multiple 1sts, or an unprotected 1st and multiple young rotation players on value contracts. I'm not trolling, I'm just being honest.

My turn to be "honest"...I think it's hilarious you think that's a fair deal and seriously risking getting suspended for it. Kudos to the dedication of fleecing.

Thad is having an all-star caliber season. He's been a Top 10 PF this season. Offering a Top 12 protected pick when the Hornets are dangerously close to missing the playoffs and keeping the pick is not going to get it done. Sorry. It's pointless. We may look to acquire assets but we aren't desperate to make lopsided deals in favor of Charlotte.

What in my last post was suspension worthy?

Let me put it this way. If your team owned its 1st round pick, what would you say if I offered you Kemba Walker or Nic Batum for your unprotected 1st round pick, Rondae Hollis Jefferson, and Shane Larkin? I hope you would laugh at that proposal. However, it is basically the equivalent of wanting us to give up our unprotected 1st, Jeremy Lamb, and Jeremy Lin, for Thaddeus Young. Do you understand?

Honest question, do you really think any team would trade more than a mid 1st or late lottery pick and filler for Thad Young? I'm not insulting him or your team. I don't think any team would be wise to offer Charlotte more than that for Kemba or Batum. Its just the reality of what players on that level are actually worth in trades.
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Re: Nets 2016 Trade Thread 

Post#19 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:21 pm

Braggins wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Braggins wrote:Wow, you guys are seriously dumb... I forgot teams were knocking down the door to trade you multiple picks and gut their roster for Thaddeus Young... Maybe whoever Billy King is GM for next will give you a deal like that lol.

I made it pretty clear that is is foolish for Charlotte to try to gun for the playoffs this season, but they are no matter what. Like I said, that isn't even definitively a good trade for Charlotte. The pick protection was a minor aspect and would obviously be negotiable (it was completely arbitrary, again, only Billy King trades unprotected 1st round picks for non all stars). I'm not surprised though that Nets fans don't have a good understanding of the trade value of 1st round picks...

Sorry I posted here lol


Gut your roster? You aren't even offering anything :crazy:

Don't come here trying to sh*t post and then think that you'll get the response you want. You already started off your proposal basically trying to kick this fanbase while we're down and then you basically offer nothing for a player putting up top 10 PF production.

anyway, your post has been flagged and reported. Post here again at your own risk.

Charlotte gutting their roster was referring to the proposal with them also giving up Lamb and Lin for a player with a torn acl. Lin and Lamb have been two of Charlottes best players and the entire point of the trade was Charlottes front office insisting on gunning for the playoffs and a scenario where the Nets decided to rebuild and wanted long term assets. It wouldn't make any sense for Charlotte to trade two of their best players and an unprotected 1st.

I think its hilarious that you think I'm sh*t posting... There probably isn't a single team close to the lottery that would give up just their unprotected 1st round pick for Thaddeus. Hes a good player, but he isn't an all-star.

How was I kicking you guys when you were down? My team has the longest active loosing streak in the NBA, their best player is out for most of the season, and the front office is still trying to gun for the playoffs.

Sure, our long term outlook is probably better, but that was the entire point of why your team might be interested in trading for picks and cap space. If that is the route your new front office wants to go, then a late lottery/mid 1st, a 2nd, and expiring contracts is actually pretty good value for Young. Youre delusional if you think that Thad Young would net an unprotected lottery pick, multiple 1sts, or an unprotected 1st and multiple young rotation players on value contracts. I'm not trolling, I'm just being honest.


No, you're being a moronic troll. You came in here with the intention of proposing a trade that's basically junk and you're offended that a counter offer actually calls for you to offer something more than the air you're trying to propose. No one asked for multiple 1st rd picks. Yet, you came in here offering nothing for something. A heavily protected 1st, al jefferson's expiring and some d leaguers is really supposed to net you a guy putting up top 10 stats at his position on a bargain deal? And you want to call us dumb? You jackass :lol:

And read your initial posting. You literally started off by just spitting on this fanbase, even this post reeks of smug passive aggressiveness. I hope the ban was worth it
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Re: Nets 2016 Trade Thread 

Post#20 » by Braggins » Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:28 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Braggins wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Gut your roster? You aren't even offering anything :crazy:

Don't come here trying to sh*t post and then think that you'll get the response you want. You already started off your proposal basically trying to kick this fanbase while we're down and then you basically offer nothing for a player putting up top 10 PF production.

anyway, your post has been flagged and reported. Post here again at your own risk.

Charlotte gutting their roster was referring to the proposal with them also giving up Lamb and Lin for a player with a torn acl. Lin and Lamb have been two of Charlottes best players and the entire point of the trade was Charlottes front office insisting on gunning for the playoffs and a scenario where the Nets decided to rebuild and wanted long term assets. It wouldn't make any sense for Charlotte to trade two of their best players and an unprotected 1st.

I think its hilarious that you think I'm sh*t posting... There probably isn't a single team close to the lottery that would give up just their unprotected 1st round pick for Thaddeus. Hes a good player, but he isn't an all-star.

How was I kicking you guys when you were down? My team has the longest active loosing streak in the NBA, their best player is out for most of the season, and the front office is still trying to gun for the playoffs.

Sure, our long term outlook is probably better, but that was the entire point of why your team might be interested in trading for picks and cap space. If that is the route your new front office wants to go, then a late lottery/mid 1st, a 2nd, and expiring contracts is actually pretty good value for Young. Youre delusional if you think that Thad Young would net an unprotected lottery pick, multiple 1sts, or an unprotected 1st and multiple young rotation players on value contracts. I'm not trolling, I'm just being honest.


No, you're being a moronic troll. You came in here with the intention of proposing a trade that's basically junk and you're offended that a counter offer actually calls for you to offer something more than the air you're trying to propose. No one asked for multiple 1st rd picks.

And read your initial posting. You literally started off by just spitting on this fanbase, even this post reeks of smug passive aggressiveness. I hope the ban was worth it

I'm sorry if it is against the rules here and considered smug to insinuate that Brooklyn isn't a playoff team and that the new front office might be interested in trading for picks and cap space to do a rebuild. I don't really see how that is spitting on your fan base. The team I follow has been the laughing stock of the league 90% of the time I've been following them and currently have the longest active losing streak in the league. I'm not exactly happy about the prospect of our front office trading away picks to try to gun for the playoffs this season. I really don't know what else to say about the actual trade offer...

You guys immediately started attacking me and acting like I was a stupid troll for proposing a potential trade idea, that whether you like it or not, is actually in the ballpark of the kind of value you could expect to get for Thaddeus Young in a trade... Then want to get me suspended for not being nice and being "smug" in defending my position? Cool...

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