Nets Waive Andrea Bargnani

Ror1997 · Post #1 » by **Ror1997** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:28 pm

Bargnani has been named as a buy out candidate, and now ESPN is reporting that buyout negotiations have begun.

We'll get to see Marks in action as he looks to fill the roster spot. So how would you like Marks to fill the spot?

I'd like to see a dleague PG get a 10 day contract. Preferably one who can defend well. Russ Smith or Lorenzo Brown are nice options to look at.

Mkdaman1818 · Post #2 » by **Mkdaman1818** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:54 pm

Like the draft, I'm of the opinion that we try and get the best available talent signed. If they don't seem to work out, on to the next one. This is about stockpiling long term talent and establishing fit.

Paradise · Post #3 » by **Paradise** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:12 pm

I would sign Erick Green or Rakeem Christmas to a 10 day. We could potentially have two open spots depending on what happens with Joe.

jbeachboy · Post #4 » by **jbeachboy** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:19 pm

nothing, let willie reed get in rotation and play more.

shakendfries · Post #5 » by **shakendfries** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:33 pm

nothing, give more minutes to the youngins - Brown, RHJ, CMac, TRob + Reed, and Karasev. the Nets have enough players on their roster that need to develop and unless there's a veteran PG out there, they'd be better off sticking with + developing what they have

Papi_swav · Post #6 » by **Papi_swav** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:39 pm

What happened to that guy that scored like 50 points in a d league game a few weeks back??
We need to go after a point guard and I think Nets should buy out Karasev instead of Joe and add shooter. Joe seems like he wants to stay here and I wouldn't mind bringing him back on a cheap deal and plus I would't want him going to a rival team and help them out if we buy him out.

Ror1997 · Post #7 » by **Ror1997** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:44 pm

We can still give minutes to the young players, which I'm all in favor of. That's why I think it would also be a good idea to bring in a young PG from the DLeague and see if we can find something.

Mkdaman1818 · Post #8 » by **Mkdaman1818** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:47 pm

jbeachboy wrote:nothing, let willie reed get in rotation and play more.

I seriously don't understand this logic. If we didn't do anything there'd be no point in buying out Bargs. It's not like Bargs sitting on the bench means Reed couldn't play. We cut him for the roster spot, which we then use to fill with hopefully a young unproven talent.

Mkdaman1818 · Post #9 » by **Mkdaman1818** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:53 pm

Oh and it's done

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No-Man · Post #10 » by **No-Man** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:00 pm

Erick Green deserves a chance, he is a good player, there are always some untapped gems to scout, also in Europe.

jbeachboy · Post #11 » by **jbeachboy** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:03 pm

Mkdaman1818 wrote:
jbeachboy wrote:nothing, let willie reed get in rotation and play more.

I seriously don't understand this logic. If we didn't do anything there'd be no point in buying out Bargs. It's not like Bargs sitting on the bench means Reed couldn't play. We cut him for the roster spot, which we then use to fill with hopefully a young unproven talent.

well i meant i dont want another big man, im ok if the go with guard or sf, but we dont need more bigs.

jbeachboy · Post #12 » by **jbeachboy** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:04 pm

get rid of karasev next and bring up some d league guys flourishing.

shakendfries · Post #13 » by **shakendfries** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:09 pm

Mkdaman1818 wrote:
jbeachboy wrote:nothing, let willie reed get in rotation and play more.

I seriously don't understand this logic. If we didn't do anything there'd be no point in buying out Bargs. It's not like Bargs sitting on the bench means Reed couldn't play. We cut him for the roster spot, which we then use to fill with hopefully a young unproven talent.

can somebody explain the negative value of Andrea Bargnani to this guy? By every metric available to analyze the effectiveness of a ballplayer and the team's performance when he is on the court, Bargnani is the absolute worst player in the NBA- he doesn't pass, too slow to defend, doesn't really rebound or protect the rim all too effectively, and shoots it every time the ball touches his hand. Although part of Bogdanovic's resurgence is due to Coach Brown giving him a longer leash than Hollins, another huge part is the ball movement he's enjoyed. I can't tell you how many times Bogs has been open for 3 but instead of looking for him Bargnani was chucking like he's Jordan. Bargani is a bad player if you want to develop others, because others rarely get the ball when he is on the court. The point of buying out Bargs is to let others develop. The Nets have more than enough players in Reed, TRob, CMac, Markel, RHJ, and Karasev who are going to need the opportunity to have the ball in their hands more and shoot more shots already. Adding another player in the mix who is going to play over these guys threatens to stifle their development. Especially a D-league player known for chucking the ball no matter how good their FG% is - the Nets need more willing ball movement if the youngins are going to get a fair shot to thrive

Mkdaman1818 · Post #14 » by **Mkdaman1818** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:18 pm

shakendfries wrote:
Mkdaman1818 wrote:
jbeachboy wrote:nothing, let willie reed get in rotation and play more.

I seriously don't understand this logic. If we didn't do anything there'd be no point in buying out Bargs. It's not like Bargs sitting on the bench means Reed couldn't play. We cut him for the roster spot, which we then use to fill with hopefully a young unproven talent.

can somebody explain the negative value of Andrea Bargnani to this guy? By every metric available to analyze the effectiveness of a ballplayer and the team's performance when he is on the court, Bargnani is the absolute worst player in the NBA- he doesn't pass, too slow to defend, doesn't really rebound or protect the rim all too effectively, and shoots it every time the ball touches his hand. Although part of Bogdanovic's resurgence is due to Coach Brown giving him a longer leash than Hollins, another huge part is the ball movement he's enjoyed. I can't tell you how many times Bogs has been open for 3 but instead of looking for him Bargnani was chucking like he's Jordan. Bargani is a bad player if you want to develop others, because others rarely get the ball when he is on the court. The point of buying out Bargs is to let others develop. The Nets have more than enough players in Reed, TRob, CMac, Markel, RHJ, and Karasev who are going to need the opportunity to have the ball in their hands more and shoot more shots already. Adding another player in the mix who is going to play over these guys threatens to stifle their development. Especially a D-league player known for chucking the ball no matter how good their FG% is - the Nets need more willing ball movement if the youngins are going to get a fair shot to thrive

If you're not looking to add someone to the roster, then you can just keep Bargs in a suit every night on the end of the bench and not play him...so he wouldnt be on the court. By waiving him, we are effectively saying we value the roster spot over whatever he contributes to our team. So not adding someone doesn't make sense now. Got it? Good.

That being said, I think we should take a shot at Perry Jones. Last I saw he was cut from Boston, don't think he's on any NBA team right now. Give him a 10-day.

jbeachboy · Post #15 » by **jbeachboy** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:18 pm

shakendfries wrote:nothing, give more minutes to the youngins - Brown, RHJ, CMac, TRob + Reed, and Karasev. the Nets have enough players on their roster that need to develop and unless there's a veteran PG out there, they'd be better off sticking with + developing what they have

karasev has no future here, just buy him out already.

jbeachboy · Post #16 » by **jbeachboy** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:20 pm

i think hollins and team wanted bargnani to score cause our bench was so bad. i dont fully blame bargnani cause bench sucked.

Mkdaman1818 · Post #17 » by **Mkdaman1818** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:20 pm

jbeachboy wrote:
Mkdaman1818 wrote:
jbeachboy wrote:nothing, let willie reed get in rotation and play more.

I seriously don't understand this logic. If we didn't do anything there'd be no point in buying out Bargs. It's not like Bargs sitting on the bench means Reed couldn't play. We cut him for the roster spot, which we then use to fill with hopefully a young unproven talent.

well i meant i dont want another big man, im ok if the go with guard or sf, but we dont need more bigs.

I agree with this, but I'm hesitant to totally ignore a big man if they're talented. Since Thad and Brook should be available as soon as the offseason begins, I'm willing to take whatever the best talent is and see if we can turn it into an asset either for us, or one that we can flip down the road (or allows us to flip Thad or Brook as a result).

Paradise · Post #18 » by **Paradise** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:33 pm

Less than 48 Hours since taking the job and Marks' first move as a GM is getting rid of Bargnani lol

Meanwhile, Billy King signed Bargnani over Cliff Alexander. Just another blunder for the record books.

Raptors1991 · Post #19 » by **Raptors1991** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:38 pm

My condolences boiz

Keith Van Horn · Post #20 » by **Keith Van Horn** » Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:28 pm

Now Reed, Robinson and Cmac get more burn in the front court. Awesome.

Who to sign now? Whoever seems like the most logical pickup to boost our scoring off the bench. Haven't been following Dleague but ill cosign whoever you guys think the best move is lol.

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