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Post#561 » by Aussienet3 » Thu May 16, 2019 3:25 am

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Aussienet3 wrote:Not sure if this is the right thread. But is anyone else hearing that Zion does not want to play in NO and is considering going back to Duke? Has he signed with an agent? What's the go?


It’s a media stunt. No matter what he does, New Orleans will always have his rights


I'm confused. If he goes back to school and he is not in the draft how can NO have his rights? This ain't no draft and stash type of deal.
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Post#562 » by JoseRizal » Thu May 16, 2019 9:34 am

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Aussienet3 wrote:Not sure if this is the right thread. But is anyone else hearing that Zion does not want to play in NO and is considering going back to Duke? Has he signed with an agent? What's the go?


It’s a media stunt. No matter what he does, New Orleans will always have his rights


I'm confused. If he goes back to school and he is not in the draft how can NO have his rights? This ain't no draft and stash type of deal.


If I’m New Orleans, what would stop me from drafting Zion? He has no leverage and an organizatiom like the Pelicans would surely not bow down to his wishes. New Orleans owns him now, unless he doesn’t want to play in the NBA.
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Re: 2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#563 » by TheNetsFan » Thu May 16, 2019 9:47 am

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It’s a media stunt. No matter what he does, New Orleans will always have his rights


I'm confused. If he goes back to school and he is not in the draft how can NO have his rights? This ain't no draft and stash type of deal.


If I’m New Orleans, what would stop me from drafting Zion? He has no leverage and an organizatiom like the Pelicans would surely not bow down to his wishes. New Orleans owns him now, unless he doesn’t want to play in the NBA.
He would withdraw himself from the draft. By doing so, he's not eligible to be drafted. That being said, he won't do it. It's just media fueled smoke.
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Re: 2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#564 » by NyCeEvO » Thu May 16, 2019 10:55 am

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MGrand15 wrote:I'm a little down on my boy Hachimura. He kind of reminds me of Sabonis in some ways but IDK. Too mechanical to be a 4 for long stretches. Not a great feel for the game which I think is the most underrated part of drafting guys. Someone like Jarrett Allen jumps out as a rookie because he always made good quick decisions on offense and defense. Definitely has a lot of potential though. Would be nice to grab him at 17 since he was looking like a top 10 guy earlier in the year.


I would take him and develop him. Best situation for him is here.
Yeah, I think he's primed to be developed into a great player by our staff.

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Re: 2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#565 » by NyCeEvO » Thu May 16, 2019 11:00 am

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Aussienet3 wrote:Not sure if this is the right thread. But is anyone else hearing that Zion does not want to play in NO and is considering going back to Duke? Has he signed with an agent? What's the go?


It’s a media stunt. No matter what he does, New Orleans will always have his rights
They refuse to believe that Zion won't play in a big market. They're projecting their own desires on to Zion and every tiny move he makes or doesn't make is twisted into some "fact" that he doesn't want to play for New Orleans. It's pathetic...but sensationalism attracts attention and drives up revenue, so I doubt it'll stop any time soon.

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Re: 2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#566 » by NyCeEvO » Thu May 16, 2019 11:04 am

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kamaze wrote:Isaia Cordinier, the 6’5” French shooting guard acquired last July in the Jeremy Lin trade, tells a French basketball site that he will play for the Nets in the Las Vegas Summer League.



He looks good. Perfect type of guy to take a chance on. Wouldn't mind having him on the Long Island Nets.
I just hope he stays healthy. I think he had double ACL surgery, which is probably why ATL viewed him as expendable. Injuries don't seem to scare us away like they do for other teams.

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Re: 2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#567 » by JoseRizal » Thu May 16, 2019 11:22 am

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I'm confused. If he goes back to school and he is not in the draft how can NO have his rights? This ain't no draft and stash type of deal.


If I’m New Orleans, what would stop me from drafting Zion? He has no leverage and an organizatiom like the Pelicans would surely not bow down to his wishes. New Orleans owns him now, unless he doesn’t want to play in the NBA.
He would withdraw himself from the draft. By doing so, he's not eligible to be drafted. That being said, he won't do it. It's just media fueled smoke.


Exactly! I don’t think he’s willing to take his talents to Europe or China.
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Post#568 » by JoseRizal » Thu May 16, 2019 11:24 am

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Aussienet3 wrote:Not sure if this is the right thread. But is anyone else hearing that Zion does not want to play in NO and is considering going back to Duke? Has he signed with an agent? What's the go?


It’s a media stunt. No matter what he does, New Orleans will always have his rights
They refuse to believe that Zion won't play in a big market. They're projecting their own desires on to Zion and every tiny move he makes or doesn't make is twisted into some "fact" that he doesn't want to play for New Orleans. It's pathetic...but sensationalism attracts attention and drives up revenue, so I doubt it'll stop any time soon.

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Sports media’s fault. They always favor and talk about big market teams’ Knicks & Lakers no matter how unrealistic their chances are. Making up $h!t just to sell news...
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Re: 2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#569 » by NyCeEvO » Thu May 16, 2019 11:48 am

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It’s a media stunt. No matter what he does, New Orleans will always have his rights
They refuse to believe that Zion won't play in a big market. They're projecting their own desires on to Zion and every tiny move he makes or doesn't make is twisted into some "fact" that he doesn't want to play for New Orleans. It's pathetic...but sensationalism attracts attention and drives up revenue, so I doubt it'll stop any time soon.

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Sports media’s fault. They always favor and talk about big market teams’ Knicks & Lakers no matter how unrealistic their chances are. Making up $h!t just to sell news...
I hate it. There are 30 teams in the league and each of them have fanbases. The rest of the league is not the farm system for those two.

It's much more compelling for me to hear about what's going on in each of them than to constantly hear about the Knicks and Lakers 24/7.

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Re: 2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#570 » by Prokorov » Thu May 16, 2019 12:15 pm

JoseRizal wrote:
Aussienet3 wrote:
JoseRizal wrote:
It’s a media stunt. No matter what he does, New Orleans will always have his rights


I'm confused. If he goes back to school and he is not in the draft how can NO have his rights? This ain't no draft and stash type of deal.


If I’m New Orleans, what would stop me from drafting Zion? He has no leverage and an organizatiom like the Pelicans would surely not bow down to his wishes. New Orleans owns him now, unless he doesn’t want to play in the NBA.


you cant draft a player who withdraws from the draft.
Kswiss wrote:Go watch a D'Angelo Russell highlight tape and tell me with a straight face the kid looks like a NBA prospect. I just can't see him in the league in three years.


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Post#571 » by Prokorov » Thu May 16, 2019 12:20 pm

I'm looking at the teams ahead of us, and wonder if Jaxson hayes will fall for similar/same reasons jarrett allen fell...

-teams in the lotto dont have a big need at center
-he is a good prospoect but not elite and may not be a starter right away
lotto teams pick gaurd/wing heavy

He is like a more aggressive more explosive allen. those 2 could split 48 minutes at center and give us exactly what we need there. i know drafting a 7th man isnt sexy but id love the idea of having that duo long term and maybe one becomes an all-star making the toher expendable down the road?
Kswiss wrote:Go watch a D'Angelo Russell highlight tape and tell me with a straight face the kid looks like a NBA prospect. I just can't see him in the league in three years.


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Post#572 » by SpeedyG » Thu May 16, 2019 2:23 pm

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kamaze wrote:Isaia Cordinier, the 6’5” French shooting guard acquired last July in the Jeremy Lin trade, tells a French basketball site that he will play for the Nets in the Las Vegas Summer League.



He looks good. Perfect type of guy to take a chance on. Wouldn't mind having him on the Long Island Nets.
I just hope he stays healthy. I think he had double ACL surgery, which is probably why ATL viewed him as expendable. Injuries don't seem to scare us away like they do for other teams.

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He had some kind of severe tendinitis on both knees which limited him. after trying to play through them, he finally decided to have surgery. So far, results seem positive as far as health is concerned...and he's also bulked up.



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Re: 2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#573 » by JoseRizal » Thu May 16, 2019 3:08 pm

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JoseRizal wrote:
Aussienet3 wrote:
I'm confused. If he goes back to school and he is not in the draft how can NO have his rights? This ain't no draft and stash type of deal.


If I’m New Orleans, what would stop me from drafting Zion? He has no leverage and an organizatiom like the Pelicans would surely not bow down to his wishes. New Orleans owns him now, unless he doesn’t want to play in the NBA.


you cant draft a player who withdraws from the draft.


But it’s already a given. I don’t think Zion’s camp is foolish enough to go back to college and risk an injury, miss a guaranteed 4 year/$45M contract and a potential $100M shoe deal...
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Re: 2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#574 » by MrDollarBills » Thu May 16, 2019 4:12 pm

Prokorov wrote:I'm looking at the teams ahead of us, and wonder if Jaxson hayes will fall for similar/same reasons jarrett allen fell...

-teams in the lotto dont have a big need at center
-he is a good prospoect but not elite and may not be a starter right away
lotto teams pick gaurd/wing heavy

He is like a more aggressive more explosive allen. those 2 could split 48 minutes at center and give us exactly what we need there. i know drafting a 7th man isnt sexy but id love the idea of having that duo long term and maybe one becomes an all-star making the toher expendable down the road?


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Re: 2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#575 » by MrDollarBills » Thu May 16, 2019 4:15 pm

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kamaze wrote:Isaia Cordinier, the 6’5” French shooting guard acquired last July in the Jeremy Lin trade, tells a French basketball site that he will play for the Nets in the Las Vegas Summer League.



He looks good. Perfect type of guy to take a chance on. Wouldn't mind having him on the Long Island Nets.


I like his game. Get him over here.
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Post#576 » by Rich Rane » Thu May 16, 2019 5:13 pm

I only bring these two up as they're both skyscrapers, but is it wrong to be more confident in Tacko Fall being a lot less injury prone than Bol Bol?
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Post#577 » by NyCeEvO » Thu May 16, 2019 5:19 pm

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He looks good. Perfect type of guy to take a chance on. Wouldn't mind having him on the Long Island Nets.
I just hope he stays healthy. I think he had double ACL surgery, which is probably why ATL viewed him as expendable. Injuries don't seem to scare us away like they do for other teams.

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He had some kind of severe tendinitis on both knees which limited him. after trying to play through them, he finally decided to have surgery. So far, results seem positive as far as health is concerned...and he's also bulked up.



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Didn't we take a look at him before the draft?

I have some vague memory of ND doing a report on him years ago. It didn't surprise me when I read that we got him in the Lin deal, especially if he was a player Marks liked in the past.

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Post#578 » by NyCeEvO » Thu May 16, 2019 5:24 pm

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If I’m New Orleans, what would stop me from drafting Zion? He has no leverage and an organizatiom like the Pelicans would surely not bow down to his wishes. New Orleans owns him now, unless he doesn’t want to play in the NBA.


you cant draft a player who withdraws from the draft.


But it’s already a given. I don’t think Zion’s camp is foolish enough to go back to college and risk an injury, miss a guaranteed 4 year/$45M contract and a potential $100M shoe deal...
His stepfather just commented on the issue saying that Zion has no plans of going back to Duke and that they look forward to being in the Crescent City. It was all 100% media misinformation.

Plus, Ingram and Kuzma aren't scrubs. They may not be superstars, but they would definitely be an interesting nucleus of players (along with the 4th pick) to surround Zion with. I'd definitely watch them. If you're NOP, I don't see how you can turn that kind of package down.

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Post#579 » by NyCeEvO » Thu May 16, 2019 5:31 pm

Prokorov wrote:I'm looking at the teams ahead of us, and wonder if Jaxson hayes will fall for similar/same reasons jarrett allen fell...

-teams in the lotto dont have a big need at center
-he is a good prospoect but not elite and may not be a starter right away
lotto teams pick gaurd/wing heavy

He is like a more aggressive more explosive allen. those 2 could split 48 minutes at center and give us exactly what we need there. i know drafting a 7th man isnt sexy but id love the idea of having that duo long term and maybe one becomes an all-star making the toher expendable down the road?
You've always talked about the Nets needing talent. We'd be foolish if we started drafting for need now. If he's BPA, you take him.

Plus, Kenny believes in having a deep rotation. A 7th/8th man is valuable for us.

Having a Jokic/Nurkic-like "problem" down the road is never a bad thing. If they are willing to play together, great; if not, trade one and get a great return.

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Post#580 » by Prokorov » Thu May 16, 2019 5:56 pm

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Prokorov wrote:I'm looking at the teams ahead of us, and wonder if Jaxson hayes will fall for similar/same reasons jarrett allen fell...

-teams in the lotto dont have a big need at center
-he is a good prospoect but not elite and may not be a starter right away
lotto teams pick gaurd/wing heavy

He is like a more aggressive more explosive allen. those 2 could split 48 minutes at center and give us exactly what we need there. i know drafting a 7th man isnt sexy but id love the idea of having that duo long term and maybe one becomes an all-star making the toher expendable down the road?
You've always talked about the Nets needing talent. We'd be foolish if we started drafting for need now. If he's BPA, you take him.

Plus, Kenny believes in having a deep rotation. A 7th/8th man is valuable for us.

Having a Jokic/Nurkic-like "problem" down the road is never a bad thing. If they are willing to play together, great; if not, trade one and get a great return.

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yeah i agree... which is why if he slid id hope we consider it. i think he could be as good as allen. and a different drynamic as he is more aggressive
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