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Post#1501 » by Ror1997 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:04 pm

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Post#1502 » by kamaze » Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:32 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:Yes, it's totally Russell's fault that LeVert is a -47 on the court with him. I'll chalk LeVert's 8 PER rating and sub .000 shooting percentages to Russell too.

Opposing bigs dropping nearly 40 ppg nightly versus us is his fault too.

hopefully he can get these things, along with his turnovers cleaned up. otherwise I see him being nothing more than a bench player who averages 21 5 and 5.


I really don't see anyone saying anything remotely similar to this outside of the guy that wanted to "drag" Russell.

The numbers are just the numbers. No one is saying he's trash or that these numbers don't have context that needs to be taken into account. I'm just not ready to excuse all of his faults because his teammates aren't good. I want him to be great, not Rudy Gay. I'm just closely monitoring his progress.

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MGrand15 wrote:...all of that is fine and true but it's also why i can't put much stock into those raw numbers. we play at a very high pace. SOMEONE has to get numbers. we're number 1 in pace by a mile.


The Nets play at a very fast pace but their players also play limited minutes which somewhat balances the pace inflation.

For arguments sake, Russell is currently averaging:

MPG: 27.2
PPG: 20.4
APG: 5.6
RPG: 4.6
TOV: 4.3
SPG: 1.2

If I pace adjust from 109.2 down to the league average of 101.2, Russell is averaging:

MPG: 27.2
PPG: 18.9
APG: 5.2
RPG: 4.3
TOV: 4.0
SPG: 1.1

If I now project those numbers out to "normal" starter minutes of say 32 minutes a night, Russell is averaging:

MPG: 32.0
PPG: 22.3
APG: 6.1
RPG: 5.0
TOV: 4.7
SPG: 1.3

Now don't get me wrong your point about looking at advanced stats still stands and does illustrate some problem areas (middling efficiency, weighed down by surprisingly bad 3PT and FT percentages, high turnovers, suspect defense) but I think we as a board need to hold our horses when it comes to touting pace inflation as a reason to throw out everyone's numbers...


Good post. Thanks for the info. I'm not throwing out his numbers based on pace but the minute thing is an interesting point. It was more just not getting too excited about it.


My beef with him is the turnovers he keeps those down and he's ok. He still is a bad defender and takes bad shots but I can live with that.
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Re: Official D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#1503 » by Curns13 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:46 pm

Biggest difference between this season’s team and last: if we are in games with 3 minutes to go, we have a good chance of winning. Last year we didn’t have anyone to take over, sure as hell not Brook. But with Dlo we’ve seen 3 or 4 times already, that if the rest of the team can keep it close, he can put us on his back and get us Ws.
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Post#1505 » by Prokorov » Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:31 am

Paradise wrote:4th quarter PPG:

1. Lebron James - 9.3
2. Kristaps Porzingis - 8.8
3. Damian Lillard - 8.3
4. DeMarcus Cousins - 7.6
5. Giannis Antetokounmpo - 7.4
6. D'angelo Russell - 7.2


its awesome to have your star player not struggle/disappear in the 4th. something we missed for years outside of the games when joe johnson felt motivated
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Post#1507 » by Ror1997 » Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:13 pm

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Post#1508 » by Paradise » Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:15 pm

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Post#1509 » by KlicKlac » Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:41 pm

Glad KA pulled Russel immediately and sacrificed the game for his health
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Post#1511 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:21 pm

I won't feel good about this til we hear a report of a negative MRI.
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Post#1512 » by 13th Man » Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:33 pm

Get better DLo.
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Post#1513 » by King_Supreme » Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:58 pm

With D'Lo's recent injuries, you think Marks will be able to extend him to a below market deal this summer(2yrs/54 mil with a 3rd yr Player Option)?
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Post#1514 » by Paradise » Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:33 pm

King_Supreme wrote:With D'Lo's recent injuries, you think Marks will be able to extend him to a below market deal this summer(2yrs/54 mil with a 3rd yr Player Option)?


Why would we do that?
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Post#1515 » by DarkXaero » Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:45 pm

"likely out for several games"

Knowing the precaution with this performance team, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see him till late next month.
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Post#1516 » by hood30 » Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:39 pm

DarkXaero wrote:"likely out for several games"

Knowing the precaution with this performance team, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see him till late next month.


They're doing the right thing by being overly cautious since DLo has had past injuries issues and they've already lost their other PG for the entire year...Losing DLo means we'd be watching what we saw last year, winning 1 out of the last 20 games.
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Post#1517 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:18 pm

DarkXaero wrote:"likely out for several games"

Knowing the precaution with this performance team, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see him till late next month.


And that's fine. as long as he's alright, that's what counts.
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Re: Official D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#1518 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:19 pm

King_Supreme wrote:With D'Lo's recent injuries, you think Marks will be able to extend him to a below market deal this summer(2yrs/54 mil with a 3rd yr Player Option)?


Why on earth would the Nets even remotely consider doing that? snaking our franchise player?
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Re: Official D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#1519 » by King_Supreme » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:06 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
King_Supreme wrote:With D'Lo's recent injuries, you think Marks will be able to extend him to a below market deal this summer(2yrs/54 mil with a 3rd yr Player Option)?


Why on earth would the Nets even remotely consider doing that? snaking our franchise player?


How is that snaking? DLO is a talented player, but has injury concerns and is currently not a star(although he can be an perennial AS player). If you can get a player below market value, you do it especially in a salary cap sport. Worst case scenario DLO rejects the extension offer and you guys match whatever offer he gets in RFA.

Nets are in an interesting place, although they don't currently have a lotto pick, they do possess 2 above average ceiling players on rookie deals. Not too mention, BK is only a year away from being in a position from netting a AS to franchise level player in the 2019 draft(Barrett; Bol, Reddish, Zion, etc). The more players you have on below market deals, the higher chances you have at winning(see '15 Warriors or '14 Spurs).
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Re: Official D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#1520 » by brook » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:25 am

I cannot believe it.

deron williams has launched a curse on this team.

like last year, all playmaker are out!

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