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Post#841 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:19 pm

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Kswiss wrote:Why do some delusional people feel the need to justify their hopes for Russell by saying everyone who thinks he sucks is a troll... I thought Russell was trash before he ever came to Brooklyn. I got banned from the GB for a week for "harping on about" D'Lo sucking lol. I think he's all entitlement, zero substance. As a Lin fan, I was hoping we would be good this year. That does not look like it's going to be the case. Fortunately on the flip side, I'm also a huge Laker fan, and we are looking golden lol


That was ridiculous for him to say such a thing. I don't know why on Earth he thinks he can come up with these allegations. Your posts were of noble intelligence. You run a quality, courteous account. And trust me, they didn't see Russell play like we did. His numbers and DEMONSTRATED iffy demeanor are indicators of maturity issues. He was openly laughed at for at least 30 secs by Worthy and Fisher after one of his pithy post-game interviewers. He managed to get offended by one of the Laker shills on their network. There was basically no substance to his game beyond shooting, and he did that at a .400 clip. I don't think the child-age haircut and eyebrow hashes evoked the image of a serious player as well, nor did the phone incident which was the domain of high school mean girls. You know that Russ has a huge athleticism gap to overcome and he was failing in working on that after Magic and Pelinka (two basketball geniuses like us) instructed the team to drop to 8 percent body fat. Magic told him to work hard on his conditioning and he casually disregarded even a direct command. Meanwhile, Randle, Nance, and Ingram are all visibly in better shape (BI isn't a toothpick any longer). Russ still has baby fat. I wish him well in Brooklyn. He's got a great new arena to play in (love the rusted roof, though I have a friend who says it's a transparent attempt to look "street" or "ghetto"). I can see that. Jay Z going for an urban decay kinda facade while all the US consumption and sanitized arena atmosphere is found inside. Bernard King isn't walking thru those doors. That gritty NJ/NY/BYK era is done. NBA product is as commercial as rap is now. You ain't pushin D'Lo to the edge. He's tryin not to lose his eyebrow slits. A postgame interview is like a jungle to him.


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Post#842 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:20 pm

Paradise wrote:I'm waiting on the day Lakers and Knicks fans wake up and realize maybe their organizational culture sucks? The two most entitled fanbases somehow have mirroring issues with their prized prospect from 2015.

Not a coincidence.

Here's snippets of the actual text. He kinda rambles from time to time, but he prefaces this with saying that he's never written anything negative about Jeff since he met him back in the 80s and noting that some players consider him "soft".

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Hornacek finds himself in a corresponding insecure position. Like Hoiberg, he seldom, if ever, chastised Carmelo Anthony. On the other hand, he would reproach Porzingis in front of the team, an approach that offended his sensibilities. Some players can be tongue-lashed publicly with no ill effects. A sensitive soul, Porzingis evidently wished his scolding were private.

My initial snitch alleged Porzingis’ swagger swelled in direct proportion to his mounting stature with the Knicks and within the NBA. He resented being singled out for criticism and acted out accordingly. He developed an annoying habit, for example, of parking in spots at the team’s practice facility designated for management. By then, utter alienation already had occurred.
Willy Hernangomez is Porzingis’ best friend on the Knicks. Mindlessly, Hornacek got Hernangomez alone one dreadful day and conveyed to him what he should’ve conveyed to Porzingis face-to-face: “Tell your guy to stop playing like a pussy!”




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Booker is an overrated chuker. id rather kilpatrick at 5% the cost
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Prokorov wrote:Booker is an overrated chuker. id rather kilpatrick at 5% the cost

He averaged 22/3/3 on 42% FG / 36% 3pt / .531 ts% and he's only 20...and in his 2nd year.
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Prokorov wrote:Booker is an overrated chuker. id rather kilpatrick at 5% the cost

He averaged 22/3/3 on 42% FG / 36% 3pt / .531 ts% and he's only 20...and in his 2nd year.


exactly... like i said... he is a chucker. nothing but volume scoring. cant say he cant get better, but right now he is just a SUPER chucker. black hole with blinders on. doesnt work on D and doesnt pass.
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Post#847 » by Roy Tarpley » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:35 pm

If Kenny can get DLo to give up the mid-range shots and take it more to the hole, his FG% should increase from 41% to maybe 43%. But is this just a matter of scoring philosophy or does Dlo have the ability/quickness to drive more (and get fouled)?

Attacking the rim and playing better defense will be the two keys to a great year for Dlo.
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Post#848 » by Paradise » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:17 pm

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Prokorov wrote:Booker is an overrated chuker. id rather kilpatrick at 5% the cost

He averaged 22/3/3 on 42% FG / 36% 3pt / .531 ts% and he's only 20...and in his 2nd year.


exactly... like i said... he is a chucker. nothing but volume scoring. cant say he cant get better, but right now he is just a SUPER chucker. black hole with blinders on. doesnt work on D and doesnt pass.

He's a super chucker or is that what Phoenix wanted him to be?

They started the last 30 games with the youngest roster in modern basketball. Younger than some NCAA teams. I can't label someone a definite chucker when franchises in this day and age employ systematical tanking.


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Post#849 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:19 pm

Roy Tarpley wrote:If Kenny can get DLo to give up the mid-range shots and take it more to the hole, his FG% should increase from 41% to maybe 43%. But is this just a matter of scoring philosophy or does Dlo have the ability/quickness to drive more (and get fouled)?

Attacking the rim and playing better defense will be the two keys to a great year for Dlo.


Not sure.

His game really reminds me of Paul Pierce. Pierce wasn't exactly blessed with athleticism and speed either but there were years where he was getting to the line 7-10 times a night. But Pierce was a way bigger dude that could handle the punishment. Russell needs to definitely find ways to get to the line more than he has thus far in his career.
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Post#850 » by Princeinrevolt » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:51 pm

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Roy Tarpley wrote:If Kenny can get DLo to give up the mid-range shots and take it more to the hole, his FG% should increase from 41% to maybe 43%. But is this just a matter of scoring philosophy or does Dlo have the ability/quickness to drive more (and get fouled)?

Attacking the rim and playing better defense will be the two keys to a great year for Dlo.


Not sure.

His game really reminds me of Paul Pierce. Pierce wasn't exactly blessed with athleticism and speed either but there were years where he was getting to the line 7-10 times a night. But Pierce was a way bigger dude that could handle the punishment. Russell needs to definitely find ways to get to the line more than he has thus far in his career.


D'angelo might be able to drive/get to the paint more often this year. I don't think its right to judge him off the last 2 years because he had no shooters on his team. The opponents would pack in the paint every game against the Lakers.
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Post#852 » by ChokeFasncists » Fri Sep 1, 2017 8:35 am

Roy Tarpley wrote:If Kenny can get DLo to give up the mid-range shots and take it more to the hole, his FG% should increase from 41% to maybe 43%. But is this just a matter of scoring philosophy or does Dlo have the ability/quickness to drive more (and get fouled)?

Attacking the rim and playing better defense will be the two keys to a great year for Dlo.

Don't really like the idea that he should give up the mid-range shots.

As you said, he's not particular quick, neither is he particularly strong or explosive. He'll have to rely on craftiness, having a midrange game would help a lot in that regard. He needs all the floaters, runners, baby hooks, pull ups, hand offs etc to keep the D guessing. I'd say his bread and butter is shooting, passing second, cutting third, drive fourth. OTOH, utilizing the Eurostep more often might do the trick.

If he were to up his FG%, he mostly need to improve as a shooter and have better shot-selection.
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Post#853 » by Roy Tarpley » Fri Sep 1, 2017 11:55 am

Here are some interesting shooting stats for five players.

The first line reflects the percentage of shots taken from 0-3 ft /3-10 ft /10-16 ft / 16-3pt / 3pt.
The second line reflects the percentage of shots made from those 5 distances.

So for example, Player #1 took 27% of his shots from 0-3 ft and made 61% of them.


#1
27/12/9/11/43
61/36/36/42/34

#2
26/8/14/22/30
61/33/42/41/37

#3
17/13/14/15/41
58/46/35/38/35

#4
30/7/7/14/42
55/33/39/43/40

#5
30/17/8/15/30
60/36/37/38/35

#1 Harden (career)
#2 Pierce (career)
#3 Russell (career)
#4 Walker (16-17)
#5 Lin (career)

Russell takes the lowest percentage of shots among the five players from the 0-3 ft range, which is the highest percentage shot. This could be because the Lakers had poor 3pt shooters so the paint was packed.

I’d also note that Kemba Walker used to shoot a lower percentage of his shots from the 0-3 ft range but in the 16-17 season got it up to 30%, which has improved his overall FG%. It also helped that Kemba drastically improved his 3pt shooting.

I think Lin can and should increase the percentage of shots he takes from 3pt and decrease his mid-range shots as well.
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Post#854 » by TinmanZBoy » Fri Sep 1, 2017 3:34 pm

Roy Tarpley wrote:Here are some interesting shooting stats for five players.

The first line reflects the percentage of shots taken from 0-3 ft /3-10 ft /10-16 ft / 16-3pt / 3pt.
The second line reflects the percentage of shots made from those 5 distances.

So for example, Player #1 took 27% of his shots from 0-3 ft and made 61% of them.


#1
27/12/9/11/43
61/36/36/42/34

#2
26/8/14/22/30
61/33/42/41/37

#3
17/13/14/15/41
58/46/35/38/35

#4
30/7/7/14/42
55/33/39/43/40

#5
30/17/8/15/30
60/36/37/38/35

#1 Harden (career)
#2 Pierce (career)
#3 Russell (career)
#4 Walker (16-17)
#5 Lin (career)

Russell takes the lowest percentage of shots among the five players from the 0-3 ft range, which is the highest percentage shot. This could be because the Lakers had poor 3pt shooters so the paint was packed.

I’d also note that Kemba Walker used to shoot a lower percentage of his shots from the 0-3 ft range but in the 16-17 season got it up to 30%, which has improved his overall FG%. It also helped that Kemba drastically improved his 3pt shooting.

I think Lin can and should increase the percentage of shots he takes from 3pt and decrease his mid-range shots as well.



Russell just does not have the explosiveness to do what Harden, Lin, Kemba can do... driving the lane is not his strength, I don't think Kenny or anybody can change that... more often than not, he would use the pick to settle for a clean jumper ... he is sneaky in off ball motion or cutting, very cerebral, a lot of his 0-3 feet shot came from that... but you rarely see him attacking the rim to force this issue, even if he sees a lane... instead, for players like Harden and Lin they smell blood when they see a lane...
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Post#855 » by Lamak » Fri Sep 1, 2017 4:23 pm

It's interesting to see a player with as much social media presence and celeb behavior on the Nets. Most of our players from the BKN era have not wanted the spotlight
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Post#856 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Sep 1, 2017 4:42 pm

Lamak wrote:It's interesting to see a player with as much social media presence and celeb behavior on the Nets. Most of our players from the BKN era have not wanted the spotlight


Nor did they want to be here, they just wanted a paycheck.
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Post#857 » by TinmanZBoy » Fri Sep 1, 2017 8:55 pm

Lamak wrote:It's interesting to see a player with as much social media presence and celeb behavior on the Nets. Most of our players from the BKN era have not wanted the spotlight


ultimately you have to back it up by your play... or media or fans, will turn on you... ironically, those who lauded you the most during the honeymoon will turn on you the quickest...
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Post#858 » by oldjim » Sun Sep 3, 2017 7:27 am

Roy Tarpley wrote:Here are some interesting shooting stats for five players.

The first line reflects the percentage of shots taken from 0-3 ft /3-10 ft /10-16 ft / 16-3pt / 3pt.
The second line reflects the percentage of shots made from those 5 distances.

So for example, Player #1 took 27% of his shots from 0-3 ft and made 61% of them.


#1
27/12/9/11/43
61/36/36/42/34

#2
26/8/14/22/30
61/33/42/41/37

#3
17/13/14/15/41
58/46/35/38/35

#4
30/7/7/14/42
55/33/39/43/40

#5
30/17/8/15/30
60/36/37/38/35

#1 Harden (career)
#2 Pierce (career)
#3 Russell (career)
#4 Walker (16-17)
#5 Lin (career)

Russell takes the lowest percentage of shots among the five players from the 0-3 ft range, which is the highest percentage shot. This could be because the Lakers had poor 3pt shooters so the paint was packed.

I’d also note that Kemba Walker used to shoot a lower percentage of his shots from the 0-3 ft range but in the 16-17 season got it up to 30%, which has improved his overall FG%. It also helped that Kemba drastically improved his 3pt shooting.

I think Lin can and should increase the percentage of shots he takes from 3pt and decrease his mid-range shots as well.


That's why i always said DRusll is not a starter level player. He had not the athletic to attack the rim and break the defense like harden ,Lin and Walker. He is only a 3 pts shooter but with horrible defense. I said DLO was the same level of Kilpatrick , they are only bench level player because of their bad defense. Actually Kilpatrick even played better than DLO , Kilpatrick has the ability to attack the rim , and his defense is better than DLO if you study their stats.
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Post#859 » by ChokeFasncists » Sun Sep 3, 2017 9:27 am

oldjim wrote:
Roy Tarpley wrote:Here are some interesting shooting stats for five players.

The first line reflects the percentage of shots taken from 0-3 ft /3-10 ft /10-16 ft / 16-3pt / 3pt.
The second line reflects the percentage of shots made from those 5 distances.

So for example, Player #1 took 27% of his shots from 0-3 ft and made 61% of them.


#1
27/12/9/11/43
61/36/36/42/34

#2
26/8/14/22/30
61/33/42/41/37

#3
17/13/14/15/41
58/46/35/38/35

#4
30/7/7/14/42
55/33/39/43/40

#5
30/17/8/15/30
60/36/37/38/35

#1 Harden (career)
#2 Pierce (career)
#3 Russell (career)
#4 Walker (16-17)
#5 Lin (career)

Russell takes the lowest percentage of shots among the five players from the 0-3 ft range, which is the highest percentage shot. This could be because the Lakers had poor 3pt shooters so the paint was packed.

I’d also note that Kemba Walker used to shoot a lower percentage of his shots from the 0-3 ft range but in the 16-17 season got it up to 30%, which has improved his overall FG%. It also helped that Kemba drastically improved his 3pt shooting.

I think Lin can and should increase the percentage of shots he takes from 3pt and decrease his mid-range shots as well.


That's why i always said DRusll is not a starter level player. He had not the athletic to attack the rim and break the defense like harden ,Lin and Walker. He is only a 3 pts shooter but with horrible defense. I said DLO was the same level of Kilpatrick , they are only bench level player because of their bad defense. Actually Kilpatrick even played better than DLO , Kilpatrick has the ability to attack the rim , and his defense is better than DLO if you study their stats.

While their games might have some similarities, DRuss is surely by far the better passer/playmaker. What disaster when SKil tried to play PG!

I suspect DRuss will have better defense stats at the 2 position
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Post#860 » by steady » Sun Sep 3, 2017 10:31 am

Lamak wrote:It's interesting to see a player with as much social media presence and celeb behavior on the Nets. Most of our players from the BKN era have not wanted the spotlight


It's partially a generational thing. The kids are comfortable with and understand the power of social media. Some of them like Towns have spoken about how they do it for their fans not because they love it.

Russell's been a "star" since he was in high school winning national championships. He is used to it

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