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Jameer Nelson
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:42 pm
by kamaze
He cleared waivers should Brooklyn scoop him up? I think they could use a point guard they'll get a chance to add another player due to injury.
Re: Jameer Nelson
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:53 pm
by shakendfries
we have enough guards. We need a center
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Re: Jameer Nelson
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:53 pm
by Netaman
kamaze wrote:He cleared waivers should Brooklyn scoop him up? I think they could use a point guard they'll get a chance to add another player due to injury.
Unless injuries pile up quickly, I don't think they'll consider adding a vet guard like Nelson for another couple months. If the need comes up they have 2 inactive guards in Whitehead and Kilpatrick who they'll give a shot in the rotation before going external.
If they use the disabled player exception I think it's more likely for a front court player or pure cap dump attached to a future pick. Zeller is pretty clearly the first guy cut if they need to do so.
Re: Jameer Nelson
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:08 pm
by MrDollarBills
We have Whitehead.
Re: Jameer Nelson
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:47 pm
by vincecarter4pres
shakendfries wrote:we have enough guards. We need a center
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This.
Re: Jameer Nelson
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:59 pm
by kamaze
They need another center that was clear in pre season. Who is available though?
Whitehead isn't a point guard he was DNP last night again.
Re: Jameer Nelson
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:22 pm
by vincecarter4pres
kamaze wrote:They need another center that was clear in pre season. Who is available though?
Whitehead isn't a point guard he was DNP last night again.
Whitehead is probably no worse than Nelson and certainly a better defender with better positional versatility.
If there's one thing this team had and still has, it's guard depth. We need a center who can actually play some solid minutes, that's really it, aside from internal growth or a blockbuster trade that makes sense.
Re: Jameer Nelson
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:54 pm
by MGrand15
Jameer is good enough to help us but this is why we have Whitehead and Kilpatrick. Dinwiddie is ready for full-time back up minutes.
Re: Jameer Nelson
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:26 pm
by Ror1997
MGrand15 wrote:Jameer is good enough to help us but this is why we have Whitehead and Kilpatrick. Dinwiddie is ready for full-time back up minutes.
My initial reaction to the injury was "Well here comes Whitehead's minutes"
But then I realized, with Lin in particular, its not as easy as going to the next guy down in the depth chart. Lin wasn't just playing a position, he was playing a role.
Whitehead and Kilpatrick don't even have a combined 5 years under their belt. Nelson is a 13 year veteran and a former All-star. The reason you bring in Nelson is the same reason Foye started 40 games last year. He's a veteran ball handler that you can run out there with the young guys. Dinwiddie, Skil, Whitehead, LeVert, Harris, Crabbe... All these guys that can step in and take Lins minutes...They can't step in and take his role. Dinwiddie might be able to come in and put up 12/3/3 off the bench but he can't keep the offense is check when things start to fall apart. Neither can Russell.
Nelson is a foye like move, but He's better than foye. Both on the court and as a Veteran Presence. Former All-star, has Finals experience, and almost 15 years in the nba.
Yeah we still need a Center, but I think adding a Veteran guard who you can start alongside DLo for 20 mpg (give Dinwiddie starter mins coming off the bench) is a necessary move with Lin out.
Re: Jameer Nelson
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:57 pm
by Paradise
Re: Jameer Nelson
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:21 pm
by Ror1997
And Nelson went to NO.
Told you guys we're going to be in market for a Vet PG. A Foye reunion wouldn't shock me either.
Re: Jameer Nelson
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:31 pm
by MGrand15
Ror1997 wrote:MGrand15 wrote:Jameer is good enough to help us but this is why we have Whitehead and Kilpatrick. Dinwiddie is ready for full-time back up minutes.
My initial reaction to the injury was "Well here comes Whitehead's minutes"
But then I realized, with Lin in particular, its not as easy as going to the next guy down in the depth chart. Lin wasn't just playing a position, he was playing a role.
Whitehead and Kilpatrick don't even have a combined 5 years under their belt. Nelson is a 13 year veteran and a former All-star. The reason you bring in Nelson is the same reason Foye started 40 games last year. He's a veteran ball handler that you can run out there with the young guys. Dinwiddie, Skil, Whitehead, LeVert, Harris, Crabbe... All these guys that can step in and take Lins minutes...They can't step in and take his role. Dinwiddie might be able to come in and put up 12/3/3 off the bench but he can't keep the offense is check when things start to fall apart. Neither can Russell.
Nelson is a foye like move, but He's better than foye. Both on the court and as a Veteran Presence. Former All-star, has Finals experience, and almost 15 years in the nba.
Yeah we still need a Center, but I think adding a Veteran guard who you can start alongside DLo for 20 mpg (give Dinwiddie starter mins coming off the bench) is a necessary move with Lin out.
I get where you're coming from and the front office may agree but this team is different from the one last year. We already have 2 vets in the starting lineup + our young guys actually have NBA experience. Last year our guards were Whitehead, a less experienced Dinwiddie, Kilpatrick and Joe Harris basically.
Russell and Crabbe have a lot to learn but they're legit NBA players who have a good amount of minutes under their belt. I don't think we need another vet until Russell and Dinwiddie prove they can't handle running the team.
Re: Jameer Nelson
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:52 pm
by Ror1997
MGrand15 wrote:Ror1997 wrote:MGrand15 wrote:Jameer is good enough to help us but this is why we have Whitehead and Kilpatrick. Dinwiddie is ready for full-time back up minutes.
My initial reaction to the injury was "Well here comes Whitehead's minutes"
But then I realized, with Lin in particular, its not as easy as going to the next guy down in the depth chart. Lin wasn't just playing a position, he was playing a role.
Whitehead and Kilpatrick don't even have a combined 5 years under their belt. Nelson is a 13 year veteran and a former All-star. The reason you bring in Nelson is the same reason Foye started 40 games last year. He's a veteran ball handler that you can run out there with the young guys. Dinwiddie, Skil, Whitehead, LeVert, Harris, Crabbe... All these guys that can step in and take Lins minutes...They can't step in and take his role. Dinwiddie might be able to come in and put up 12/3/3 off the bench but he can't keep the offense is check when things start to fall apart. Neither can Russell.
Nelson is a foye like move, but He's better than foye. Both on the court and as a Veteran Presence. Former All-star, has Finals experience, and almost 15 years in the nba.
Yeah we still need a Center, but I think adding a Veteran guard who you can start alongside DLo for 20 mpg (give Dinwiddie starter mins coming off the bench) is a necessary move with Lin out.
I get where you're coming from and the front office may agree but this team is different from the one last year. We already have 2 vets in the starting lineup + our young guys actually have NBA experience. Last year our guards were Whitehead, a less experienced Dinwiddie, Kilpatrick and Joe Harris basically.
Russell and Crabbe have a lot to learn but they're legit NBA players who have a good amount of minutes under their belt. I don't think we need another vet until Russell and Dinwiddie prove they can't handle running the team.
Mosgov and Carroll aren't ball handlers. Like I said before, you need a veteran guard to run the offense alongside DLo. Somebody to keep DLo from getting in over his head, and somebody who can step up and change the momentum in a game by doing the little things. Plus its a good way to make sure DLo doesn't develop any bad habits on the court (like playing hero ball to get back into a game instead of making plays)
I think we'll see a move for a vet PG before the end of the month. Beno Udrih or Randy Foye.
Re: Jameer Nelson
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:23 pm
by NyCeEvO
shakendfries wrote:we have enough guards. We need a center
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We need about 4 legit big men lol.
Re: Jameer Nelson
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:14 pm
by Aussienet3
kamaze wrote:They need another center that was clear in pre season. Who is available though?
Whitehead isn't a point guard he was DNP last night again.
He was in street clothes. I think he is still on the inactive list? Can he play Gleague?
Re: Jameer Nelson
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:52 pm
by kamaze
The disabled player exception is used on a player that can't play but they need a roster spot to add a new guy. That needs to change next year but for Now it makes more sense to use it in a trade to get someone. Noel, another point guard? When Afro Samurai is ready maybe they add 2 players.
Re: Jameer Nelson
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:01 am
by NyCeEvO
kamaze wrote:The disabled player exception is used on a player that can't play but they need a roster spot to add a new guy. That needs to change next year but for Now it makes more sense to use it in a trade to get someone. Noel, another point guard? When Afro Samurai is ready maybe they add 2 players.
I'd love Noel but something tells me that Cuban wouldn't be eager to deal with the Nets considering the initial competition over D-Will during his free agency and the mini-Cuban vs. Proky feud a few years ago. While I don't think we're on the Mavs top 3 most hated teams list, I don't think Cuban would do anything to help the Nets, if he felt that he was giving away a potential positive asset.
Don't get me wrong...I'd hope the Mavs would forget about the past and would trade him to us over a Western conference rival. The much needed size, increased versatility, athleticism, and outstanding BBIQ would benefit us so much more than his lack of a dynamic offensive game would hurt us.
Re: Jameer Nelson
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:59 am
by Rich Rane
Should be okay to lock since he's signing with NOP.