How Brooklyn can use the DPE

kamaze · Post #1 » by **kamaze** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:57 am

Since the Jameer Nelson thread was locked; thanks Rich :roll:

; any discussion about what they can do with it can be discussed here...

kamaze · Post #2 » by **kamaze** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:07 am

Since they need a roster spot to add a player they can wait a month or 2 before they use it in a trade.
Or they could use it on another vet point guard to replace Lin sooner.
Beno Udrih is available..

Aussienet3 · Post #3 » by **Aussienet3** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:24 am

Why are some people hell bent on getting a guard? We are loaded with ball handlers. We need a big. I know they don't grow on trees. But I just feel there isn't enough discussion from our very knowledgable fans on the issue of a big. Surely there is 6'10 + player somewhere on the planet that can protect the rim for us? lol

brook · Post #4 » by **brook** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:10 am

DPE don't give us another roster spot, so we have to cut somebody. Also, to use DPE you have to be above the cap, I think we 3 million under the cap right now. Maybe I'm wrong, we still have Foye's cap holds?

I think we must give a chance to Whitehead and Zeller before doing anything.

There aren't no playmakers on the market, Nelson signed with Pelicans.

Idem at the center positions. No vets on the market, maybe you take a flyer on Diamond Stone or something, but he's better than Zeller? I don't know.

I think Marks will wait and looking for a trade (or multiple trades).

Ror1997 · Post #5 » by **Ror1997** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:02 pm

kamaze wrote:Since the Jameer Nelson thread was locked; thanks Rich ; any discussion about what they can do with it can be discussed here...

Why do you say that like rich did something wrong Lol. He locked a thread that was dedicated to a player who ultimately signed with another team. Why keep it open?

Prokorov · Post #6 » by **Prokorov** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:14 pm

Aussienet3 wrote:Why are some people hell bent on getting a guard? We are loaded with ball handlers. We need a big. I know they don't grow on trees. But I just feel there isn't enough discussion from our very knowledgable fans on the issue of a big. Surely there is 6'10 + player somewhere on the planet that can protect the rim for us? lol

yeah, i mean we have kilpatrick and whitehead basically in street clothes every game. just put one of them into the rotaiton.

Russell is fine at PG. Dinwiddie is fine as backup PG

Netaman · Post #7 » by **Netaman** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:30 pm

Yeah if they use the DPE, I think it's more likely for a center or forward from a team looking to dump cap or free up a roster spot.

Question - if a team trades us a player for the DPE, for example Portland trades Ed Davis, do they get a trade exception back? Is there any incentive for the other team other than saving money?

steady · Post #8 » by **steady** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:01 pm

Netaman wrote:Yeah if they use the DPE, I think it's more likely for a center or forward from a team looking to dump cap or free up a roster spot.

Question - if a team trades us a player for the DPE, for example Portland trades Ed Davis, do they get a trade exception back? Is there any incentive for the other team other than saving money?

I agree those are circumstances in which Nets would likely use DPE if they decide to go that route

I also think Nets would likely send a player out in the trade -- to open up a roster spot.

In answer to your question, i assume the other team would also get cap space relief but am not sure.

Ed Davis would be such a super candidate for this as he is expiring contract and would be a great fit but his salary is just beyond reach. $6.1 m is max amount of Nets DPE for Lin and the DPE cannot be combined with any other exceptions or cap space iirc.

Netaman · Post #9 » by **Netaman** » Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:16 pm

steady wrote:
Netaman wrote:Yeah if they use the DPE, I think it's more likely for a center or forward from a team looking to dump cap or free up a roster spot.

Question - if a team trades us a player for the DPE, for example Portland trades Ed Davis, do they get a trade exception back? Is there any incentive for the other team other than saving money?

I agree those are circumstances in which Nets would likely use DPE if they decide to go that route

I also think Nets would likely send a player out in the trade -- to open up a roster spot.

In answer to your question, i assume the other team would also get cap space relief but am not sure.

Ed Davis would be such a super candidate for this as he is expiring contract and would be a great fit but his salary is just beyond reach. $6.1 m is max amount of Nets DPE for Lin and the DPE cannot be combined with any other exceptions or cap space iirc.

I wonder if the salary count coming back is prorated at all - because if it is in a month or so Davis might fit. But honestly, I don't think they will even consider using it for a little bit anyway. I think they will wait until there's another injury since there are a couple positions that are 1 guy getting nicked up away from being really thin.

kamaze · Post #10 » by **kamaze** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:52 am

Aussienet3 wrote:Why are some people hell bent on getting a guard? We are loaded with ball handlers. We need a big. I know they don't grow on trees. But I just feel there isn't enough discussion from our very knowledgable fans on the issue of a big. Surely there is 6'10 + player somewhere on the planet that can protect the rim for us? lol

It doesn't make sense right? I mean they lost THEIR STARTING POINT GUARD but 1+1 doesn't equal 2 in your world.

If Marks does his thing they'll get an upgrade at a couple of positions.

kamaze · Post #11 » by **kamaze** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:03 am

Ror1997 wrote:
kamaze wrote:Since the Jameer Nelson thread was locked; thanks Rich ; any discussion about what they can do with it can be discussed here...

Why do you say that like rich did something wrong Lol. He locked a thread that was dedicated to a player who ultimately signed with another team. Why keep it open?

One of my posts was erased moved to another board then threads get locked maybe it's nothing but when I feel I'm wronged sometimes I strike out.

shakendfries · Post #12 » by **shakendfries** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:03 am

kamaze wrote:
Aussienet3 wrote:Why are some people hell bent on getting a guard? We are loaded with ball handlers. We need a big. I know they don't grow on trees. But I just feel there isn't enough discussion from our very knowledgable fans on the issue of a big. Surely there is 6'10 + player somewhere on the planet that can protect the rim for us? lol

It doesn't make sense right? I mean they lost THEIR STARTING POINT GUARD but 1+1 doesn't equal 2 in your world.

If Marks does his thing they'll get an upgrade at a couple of positions.

not sure, but if the Nets currently posting the best offense in the league is any indication, the team seems to be compensating for their loss quite well - potentially due to their depth at the guard position :roll:

vincecarter4pres · Post #13 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:17 am

Ror1997 wrote:
kamaze wrote:Since the Jameer Nelson thread was locked; thanks Rich ; any discussion about what they can do with it can be discussed here...

Why do you say that like rich did something wrong Lol. He locked a thread that was dedicated to a player who ultimately signed with another team. Why keep it open?

Because Rich is...

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Aussienet3 · Post #14 » by **Aussienet3** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:18 am

kamaze wrote:
Aussienet3 wrote:Why are some people hell bent on getting a guard? We are loaded with ball handlers. We need a big. I know they don't grow on trees. But I just feel there isn't enough discussion from our very knowledgable fans on the issue of a big. Surely there is 6'10 + player somewhere on the planet that can protect the rim for us? lol

It doesn't make sense right? I mean they lost THEIR STARTING POINT GUARD but 1+1 doesn't equal 2 in your world.

If Marks does his thing they'll get an upgrade at a couple of positions.

This is why I trust Marks as our GM and not you. Whitehead,Russell, Dinwiddie and LeVert all capable of bringing the ball up. Not so much Whitehead. But he can help when reactivated. Our glaring weakness is not Point Guard!! It's where a 19 year old kid is showing the only sign of rim protection in his 15 mins per. But no your right tell me how need a another point guard. :crazy:

vincecarter4pres · Post #15 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:31 am

Even if we added another point guard, it would have to be some young undiscovered dude whose just waiting on his chance, not a 35 year old journeyman demanding a big role.

Nelson is a recipe for locker room strife and a possible chemistry killer waiting to happen and even best case is he's gifted minutes off his namesake and a signing promise and takes important minutes away from a guy like Dinwiddie even though he's gone first chance this summer.

No thanks.

kamaze · Post #16 » by **kamaze** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:07 am

Aussienet3 wrote:
kamaze wrote:
Aussienet3 wrote:Why are some people hell bent on getting a guard? We are loaded with ball handlers. We need a big. I know they don't grow on trees. But I just feel there isn't enough discussion from our very knowledgable fans on the issue of a big. Surely there is 6'10 + player somewhere on the planet that can protect the rim for us? lol

It doesn't make sense right? I mean they lost THEIR STARTING POINT GUARD but 1+1 doesn't equal 2 in your world.

If Marks does his thing they'll get an upgrade at a couple of positions.

This is why I trust Marks as our GM and not you. Whitehead,Russell, Dinwiddie and LeVert all capable of bringing the ball up. Not so much Whitehead. But he can help when reactivated. Our glaring weakness is not Point Guard!! It's where a 19 year old kid is showing the only sign of rim protection in his 15 mins per. But no your right tell me how need a another point guard.

Fix one problem at a time... I doubt they make the playoffs anyway they'll be slaughtered by opposing team's centers all year.

The starting point guard on the floor crying out for the year should be reason enough for you.. We'll see who was right as the season goes on it's not even 5 games into the season yet.

kamaze · Post #17 » by **kamaze** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:12 am

[quote="vincecarter4pres"]Even if we added another point guard, it would have to be some young undiscovered dude whose just waiting on his chance, not a 35 year old journeyman demanding a big role.

Nelson is a recipe for locker room strife and a possible chemistry killer waiting to happen and even best case is he's gifted minutes off his namesake and a signing promise and takes important minutes away from a guy like Dinwiddie even though he's gone first chance this summer.

No thanks. (quote)

Lock this post Jameer has been signed.!

Prokorov · Post #18 » by **Prokorov** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:40 pm

shakendfries wrote:
kamaze wrote:
Aussienet3 wrote:Why are some people hell bent on getting a guard? We are loaded with ball handlers. We need a big. I know they don't grow on trees. But I just feel there isn't enough discussion from our very knowledgable fans on the issue of a big. Surely there is 6'10 + player somewhere on the planet that can protect the rim for us? lol

It doesn't make sense right? I mean they lost THEIR STARTING POINT GUARD but 1+1 doesn't equal 2 in your world.

If Marks does his thing they'll get an upgrade at a couple of positions.

not sure, but if the Nets currently posting the best offense in the league is any indication, the team seems to be compensating for their loss quite well - potentially due to their depth at the guard position

PG was our deepest position. I mean most people dont have a former #2 overall pick potential stud they can slide to PG. dinwiddie is a great backup and whitehead as third string is more then adequate

last year our PG rotation was an oft-injured Lin, dinwiddie and a rookie whitehead

now its a better, healthier player in russell, and dinwiddie and whitehead with more experience

kamaze · Post #19 » by **kamaze** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:58 pm

Prokorov wrote:
shakendfries wrote:
kamaze wrote:
It doesn't make sense right? I mean they lost THEIR STARTING POINT GUARD but 1+1 doesn't equal 2 in your world.

If Marks does his thing they'll get an upgrade at a couple of positions.

not sure, but if the Nets currently posting the best offense in the league is any indication, the team seems to be compensating for their loss quite well - potentially due to their depth at the guard position

PG was our deepest position. I mean most people dont have a former #2 overall pick potential stud they can slide to PG. dinwiddie is a great backup and whitehead as third string is more then adequate

last year our PG rotation was an oft-injured Lin, dinwiddie and a rookie whitehead

now its a better, healthier player in russell, and dinwiddie and whitehead with more experience

Whitehead's not a point guard he's better off the ball scoring. Kenny's experiment to turn him into a pg failed he was thrown into the fire to run the point last year but by the end of the season it was obvious he wasn't.

kamaze · Post #20 » by **kamaze** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:02 pm

Just like D'Angelo prefers playing shooting guard

"I feel like when you're playing shooting guard, you've got to score the ball or make plays for your teammates," Russell said. "Playing the point guard, it's harder to do that, be aggressive, try to score the ball every time, because you've got to make at least one pass. But figuring it out, whatever position I'm in, I'm going to try to make the best of it."

IW is better at shooting guard he doesn't have the decision making to run a team that's not a knock on him.