ImageImageImageImageImage

The Nets 2018 NBA Draft Thread (Welcome Dzanan Musa, Radions Kurucs & Theo Pinson!)

Moderators: NyCeEvO, Rich Rane

User avatar
shakendfries
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,886
And1: 1,063
Joined: Jun 24, 2015

Re: The Nets 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#101 » by shakendfries » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:11 am

Could Bonga contribute to the "team futuristic" that Marks envisions with all multiple playmakers that can all dribble, pass, & shoot?

ImageImage

"Kevin Durant is not coming to the Nets. If I'm wrong, I will change my avatar to anything you request no matter how humiliating it is." - MrDollarBills, 10/22/18
Prokorov
RealGM
Posts: 43,027
And1: 14,676
Joined: Dec 06, 2013

Re: The Nets 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#102 » by Prokorov » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:40 am

shakendfries wrote:Could Bonga contribute to the "team futuristic" that Marks envisions with all multiple playmakers that can all dribble, pass, & shoot?



music is awful.

not super impressed but never heard of him and hard to go off 1 video. looks smallish like levert size and does he shoot threes at all?

again im ignorant to this guys so forgive me if im way off.

Guy id love to get at SF is Kevin Knox. i know he is projected mid to late lotto but if we can trade up and he slides who knows. never thought we'd get allen and we did without moving up.

Knox has the length, athleticism, he is like RHJ only longer, plays above the rim and can score with the ball on offense. his shot is to the point where with work and kenny he could become a 35% or so guy.

but off the charts length/athleticism



User avatar
bud29
Junior
Posts: 397
And1: 139
Joined: Dec 04, 2017
       

Re: The Nets 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#103 » by bud29 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:56 am

Prokorov wrote:music is awful.

not super impressed but never heard of him and hard to go off 1 video. looks smallish like levert size and does he shoot threes at all?

again im ignorant to this guys so forgive me if im way off.

Skinny, but 6-10 in shoes and supposedly could have another inch or so left since he’s a late bloomer. Primarily runs the offense and has good motor and intangibles. No way he makes it to the late 20s IMO.
JiggaMan06
Sophomore
Posts: 154
And1: 24
Joined: Jan 31, 2018
     

Re: The Nets 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#104 » by JiggaMan06 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:24 am

I hate thinking about the draft cause J3 might go to Cavs with our pick. I hope Chandler Hutch or Kevin Knox slides to us and with the second pick we grab a Hyper PF
Prokorov
RealGM
Posts: 43,027
And1: 14,676
Joined: Dec 06, 2013

Re: The Nets 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#105 » by Prokorov » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:43 am

bud29 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:music is awful.

not super impressed but never heard of him and hard to go off 1 video. looks smallish like levert size and does he shoot threes at all?

again im ignorant to this guys so forgive me if im way off.

Skinny, but 6-10 in shoes and supposedly could have another inch or so left since he’s a late bloomer. Primarily runs the offense and has good motor and intangibles. No way he makes it to the late 20s IMO.


i dont think so either i was thinking more we move up to 15 and maybe he slips to there
User avatar
LKIRNets
Starter
Posts: 2,387
And1: 598
Joined: Nov 23, 2017

Re: The Nets 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#106 » by LKIRNets » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:10 am

JiggaMan06 wrote:I hate thinking about the draft cause J3 might go to Cavs with our pick. I hope Chandler Hutch or Kevin Knox slides to us and with the second pick we grab a Hyper PF

I think he's the realistic one sliding. If not we have the piece to move up and get him in the pick and Lin.
Aussienet3
Junior
Posts: 431
And1: 90
Joined: Jul 17, 2017
       

Re: The Nets 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#107 » by Aussienet3 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:51 pm

Where do you guy's see Miles Bridges going in this years draft?
User avatar
bud29
Junior
Posts: 397
And1: 139
Joined: Dec 04, 2017
       

Re: The Nets 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#108 » by bud29 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:08 pm

Aussienet3 wrote:Where do you guy's see Miles Bridges going in this years draft?

Late lottery would be my guess right now, picks 10-14 or so.
User avatar
shakendfries
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,886
And1: 1,063
Joined: Jun 24, 2015

Re: The Nets 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#109 » by shakendfries » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:12 pm

New mock alert

SI

1. Sacramento Kings KINGS | DEANDRE AYTON, C, ARIZONA | FR.
Height: 7'0" | Weight: 260 pounds | Age: 19 | Last: 1

Although the Kings have a number of bigs on the roster, it shouldn’t preclude them from selecting the best player available. Luka Doncic would receive heavy consideration here, but Ayton’s star potential, tantalizing athletic ability and floor-spacing promise will be hard to pass up. From a physical standpoint, Ayton is an extremely rare prospect, as strong and agile as any seven-footer in recent memory. One scout I spoke with this week likened his athleticism to Patrick Ewing at this same stage. With his burgeoning offensive skill level, he can be as dominant as he wants to be. Defensively he’s been inconsistent, but has improved over the course of the season and has the tools to be impactful once he gets up to speed. He remains the top prospect on SI’s Big Board.

2. Atlanta Hawks HAWKS | LUKA DONCIC, G, REAL MADRID
Height: 6'8" | Weight: 220 | Age: 18 | Last: 2

The Hawks aren’t tied down to much of anything on their roster beyond John Collins, and are in search of a foundational player. Doncic’s talent is no secret, and he’d be able to take over the offense right away. With his ability to read the floor and see over defenses, he’ll be able to make others better and benefit from additional space to operate. The question is whether you see Doncic as your franchise player long-term, or project him more as your second or third-best guy. His ceiling will be tied to his individual shot creation (and whether he can shoulder a superstar’s workload), or if he’s best-suited playing off a star teammate at the NBA level. He’s a safe bet to produce great value among the top picks and won’t fall far, if at all.

3. Phoenix Suns SUNS | MOHAMED BAMBA, C, TEXAS | FR.
Height: 7'0" | Weight: 225 | Age: 19 | Last: 4

The Suns appeared to address their point guard issues by adding Elfrid Payton at the deadline. Until that experiment resolves itself, Phoenix can focus on adding to its frontcourt, with center being the biggest need. There’s no question that Bamba has insane defensive potential with his length and mobility, and he’d be an ideal complement to a scoring-minded core group headlined by Devin Booker. He may not need to max himself out offensively to be an immensely valuable player, but has shown potential shooting jumpers and is a marvel to watch when he’s on. The chief concerns I’ve heard from league personnel center on Bamba’s motor, and how badly he wants to compete at times. If he can lift Texas to the NCAA tournament and plays well, he can answer those questions.

4. Dallas Mavericks MAVERICKS | MARVIN BAGLEY III, F/C, DUKE | FR.
Height: 6'10" | Weight: 235 | Age: 18 | Last: 3

After hitting on Dennis Smith last year, Dallas will be well-positioned to complement him atop the draft. Bagley’s long-term potential and high-energy rebounding makes him a nice fit, and he could potentially spend time at center with Harrison Barnes at the four in smaller lineups. His production has tailed off a tiny bit in concert with Duke’s mid-season doldrums, and there are some questions about his positional fit, particularly tied to his defensive issues. That said, he’s still at an early stage of his development and couples appealing physical tools with elite college production. With shooting around him and more space to operate inside, he’ll be better positioned to utilize his mismatch. Bagley may not be as prepared for the NBA as some expected coming into the season, but as he learns and adapts in the years to come, he could become a dangerous, dynamic player.

5. Memphis Grizzlies GRIZZLIES | MICHAEL PORTER JR., F, MISSOURI | FR.
Height: 6'10" | Weight: 215 | Age: 19 | Last: 5

Memphis’s refusal to entertain Marc Gasol trades indicates the Grizzlies are aiming to be competitive when Mike Conley returns. There may not be an instant fix, but gambling on Porter, who might be the best scorer in the draft, could be a meaningful risk/reward move and terrific fit for a franchise long in need of a high-level wing. Porter says he intends to return from back surgery before the end of the season, which would be a risky choice as it pertains to his long-term health, much less his draft stock. But as long as his medicals check out, his size, shooting and polished game should keep him pretty safely among the draft’s early selections.

6. Orlando Magic MAGIC | TRAE YOUNG, PG, OKLAHOMA | FR.
Height: 6'2" | Weight: 180 | Age: 19 | Last: 7

Expect the Magic to lean toward long-term upside wherever they select. There’s a definite hole at point guard, and Young deserves consideration should he fall to them. There’s mixed opinion surrounding his long-term prospects, but he comes with star-level potential if everything breaks right, able to rain threes from deep, utilize high ball screens and find teammates. Defense will always be an issue given he’s physically slight, but in a spread attack with the right personnel, Young can still thrive. Pairing him with Jonathan Isaac would be a step in the right direction.

7. Cleveland Cavaliers CAVALIERS* | JAREN JACKSON JR., C, MICHIGAN STATE | FR.
(Note: Cleveland owns Brooklyn’s unprotected first-round pick.)

Height: 6'11" | Weight: 240 | Age: 18 | Last: 6

Amid the flurry of deadline moves Cleveland made, they were wise to hang on to the Brooklyn pick, which is set to land in a desirable range and produce something useful. Jackson’s two-way potential has been evident all season. He’s one of the youngest players in the class and perhaps not ready to make a big impact from day one, but has the sort of skill set that fits in safely on most teams. He can space the floor, protect the rim and occasionally switch onto wings, but is still learning to make his impact felt consistently. Jackson would be a nice piece for the Cavs whether LeBron stays or goes.

8. Chicago Bulls BULLS | WENDELL CARTER JR., C, DUKE | FR.
Height: 6'10" | Weight: 260 | Age: 19 | Last: 16

Expect the Bulls to focus on the frontcourt in this range and find a player who fits with Lauri Markkanen. Carter is viewed by scouts as a well-rounded prospect, and his high skill level and IQ make him a nice piece. Marvin Bagley has been more hyped but Carter has arguably been Duke’s best player, and certainly its most consistent performer. He’s a terrific rebounder and versatile offensive player who should be able to add consistent three-point range to his game. His star upside could be limited by a lack of elite lift, but he’s certainly athletic enough to make his game work in the NBA. He’s established himself as a potential Top 10 selection with his play.

9. New York Knicks KNICKS | KEVIN KNOX, F, KENTUCKY | FR.
Height: 6'9" | Weight: 215 | Age: 18 | Last: 8

The Knicks’ biggest area of need is on the the wing, where they could use a versatile player to complement Kristaps Porzingis and Frank Ntilikina. An upside play makes sense with the timeline of their core, and Knox’s scoring ability, three-point shooting potential and ability to play either forward spot makes him a projectable fit. He’s made noticeable strides over the course of the season, particularly with his on-court approach, and has a lot of room to grow as he develops his ball-handling, works on his body and starts to unlock his versatility.

10. Charlotte Hornets HORNETS | MIKAL BRIDGES, SF, VILLANOVA | JR.
Height: 6'7" | Weight: 210 | Age: 21 | Last: 10

Charlotte won’t have to make a need-based pick here, and although the Hornets sat tight with their top guys at the deadline, it’s conceivable they get active again come draft time. With Kemba Walker still in place and Malik Monk just a season in, the wing could be the area most worth addressing. Bridges brings high-level college experience and a valuable 3-and-D skill set, with more offensive upside than Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and a considerably high overall floor as the Hornets try and chart their next direction. His ability to space the floor and play in transition would be an instant boost.

11.Philadelphia 76ers 76ERS* | LONNIE WALKER, SG, MIAMI | FR.
(Note: Philadelphia owns the Lakers’ first-round pick unless it falls between Nos. 2–5, in which case it conveys to Boston.)

Height: 6'4" | Weight: 190 | Age: 19 | Last: 19

As Philadelphia rounds out the team around Joel Embiid and Ben Simmons, adding a scorer with upside on the wing like Walker could be an ideal addition. With Bruce Brown injured, Walker has begun to turn it on in recent weeks and has high-end physical attributes that endear him to scouts. He’s a slasher with a streaky but potent three-ball and nice upside in the late lottery. Areas of improvement for Walker include commitment to defense and learning to become a threat off the ball. He wouldn’t be rushed to contribute in Philly.

12. Los Angeles Clippers CLIPPERS* | MILES BRIDGES, F, MICHIGAN STATE | SO.
(Note: Los Angeles owns Detroit’s top-four protected first-round pick.)

Height: 6'7" | Weight: 225 | Age: 19 | Last: 12

Bridges has taken some flak this season, but brings athleticism, toughness and some shot-making ability on the wing, with potential to become a plus 3-and-D guy in the right situation. He checks the intangible boxes the Clippers are looking for, and can ease into a role early on. Bridges’ struggles to attack off the dribble and lack of ideal measurables could be indicative of some long-term problems, but at the back end of the lottery he makes sense given the things he does do well.

13. Utah Jazz JAZZ | COLLIN SEXTON, PG, ALABAMA | FR.
Height: 6'2" | Weight: 190 | Age: 19 | Last: 9

The Jazz are building around Donovan Mitchell, Rudy Gobert and Joe Ingles and could address a few different needs in this range. Sexton’s slashing ability and potential to be a solid defender could make him an ideal partner for Mitchell, giving the Jazz a pair of athletic playmakers who can operate with or without the ball and work off each other. He’d be a good fit with Utah’s defense-oriented philosophy and give them a third guard to rotate in as Ricky Rubio’s eventual successor.

14. Los Angeles Clippers CLIPPERS | ROBERT WILLIAMS, C, TEXAS A&M | SO.
Height: 6'9" | Weight: 240 | Age: 20 | Last: 11

It’s unclear at this stage what DeAndre Jordan’s fate might be, but Williams’ elite strength and leaping ability make him an intriguing upside play in the middle regardless. He will need to be coached up and probably require some patience, but he’s physically ready to compete in the league. Playing hard on a consistent basis will be requisite, but scouts are aware of what he can do at his best, and in a simplified role he can become a useful contributor.

15. Chicago Bulls BULLS* | TROY BROWN, G/F, OREGON | FR.
(Note: Chicago owns New Orleans’s top-five protected first-round pick.)

Height: 6'7" | Weight: 215 | Age: 18 | Last: 18

The Bulls are set to pick twice in the first round after acquiring this pick from the Pelicans in the Nikola Mirotic deal, and might be positioned to add depth on the wing. Brown has come on strong for Oregon and possesses an enviable, well-rounded perimeter skill set that should play on most teams. He’s plenty athletic, with some playmaking ability and comfort handling the ball. Brown’s length and quickness helps generate turnovers, and gives him enticing 3-and-D potential. For the Bulls, he’d be a great piece to add to a talented young group.

16. Philadelphia 76ers 76ERS | CHANDLER HUTCHISON, G/F, BOISE STATE | SR.
Height: 6'7" | Weight: 200 | Age: 21 | Last: N/A

Hutchison’s experience level could give Philly some immediate help on the wing. He’s having an outstanding season as the lead man for Boise State, and could really thrive on both ends of the ball when placed onto a team where he can play off of other guys. He has nice size and tools, can make crafty cuts without the ball and would get plenty of looks operating alongside Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid. Hutchison is a savvy player who fits the Sixers’ style nicely.

17. Denver Nuggets NUGGETS | DZANAN MUSA, SF, KK CEDEVITA
Height: 6'9" | Weight: 185 | Age: 18 | Last: 14

Denver loves international players and could use some size and scoring on the wing, with Wilson Chandler on the way out and Will Barton headed for free agency. Musa fits that bill nicely, and brings a degree of competitiveness and smarts that would fit well with the Nuggets’ young group. He’d have to operate off the ball more than he’s used to, but could shine as another perimeter threat around Nikola Jokic.

18. Phoenix Suns SUNS* | SHAI GILGEOUS-ALEXANDER, PG, KENTUCKY | FR.
(Note: Phoenix owns Miami’s top-seven protected first-round pick.)

Height: 6'6" | Weight: 180 | Age: 19 | Last: N/A

This early in the draft Gilgeous-Alexander comes with some added risk, but his skill set is a great theoretical fit with Devin Booker and he’d give Phoenix another ball-handler and setup man. As he fills out, his size, length and instincts should allow him to defend the opponent’s top backcourt scorer. He’s an unselfish player who has emerged as a floor leader for Kentucky. His long-term shooting potential begs some question, but Gilgeous-Alexander has been impressive overall and should be a worth a shot as a long-term play.

19. Portland Trail Blazers TRAIL BLAZERS | DANIEL GAFFORD, C, ARKANSAS | FR.
Height: 6'11" | Weight: 235 | Age: 19 | Last: 21

Though Portland remains invested in Zach Collins, at this stage of the draft Gafford’s physical potential might be too much to pass up as a long-term project. The Blazers’ crowded cap sheet skews heavily toward perimeter players, and given the overall dearth of NBA-ready bigs in this class, Gafford is a good first-round dice roll. When he’s active, he’s a constant threat to catch lobs and block shots, and he has freakish bounce for a guy his size. He’s the type of player who will excel in workouts and sniff late lottery range just on upside.

20. Indiana Pacers PACERS | ANFERNEE SIMONS, G, IMG ACADEMY | HS SR.
Height: 6'3" | Weight: 180 | Age: 18 | Last: 20

Simons continues to explore the possibility of attending college next season, but all signs indicate he will test the waters this spring before making a decision. He’s got a lot of intriguing traits, with high-level explosiveness, great foot speed and developing three-point range. Simons may not be a true point guard, but should be able to handle some level of ball-handling duties in time. He’s obviously far from a finished product and will need G-League time to gain experience in addition to a lot of time in the weight room.

21. Minnesota Timberwolves TIMBERWOLVES* | BRUCE BROWN, G, MIAMI | SO.
(Note: Minnesota owns Oklahoma City’s lottery-protected first-round pick.)

Height: 6'5" | Weight: 190 | Age: 21 | Last: 13

It’s been a disappointing season for Brown, who continues to recover from foot surgery. He hasn’t made the requisite type of strides you’d like to see from a 21-year-old sophomore, regressing as a shooter and profiling more as a combo guard than a point. Still, his gritty defense and athleticism are strong points, Minnesota is aiming to win sooner than later, and Brown feels like a Tom Thibodeau guy with his no-frills approach. This might be a situation where his skills could be maximized.

22. Milwaukee Bucks BUCKS | MITCHELL ROBINSON, C, CHALMETTE (LA.) HS
Height: 6'11" | Weight: 230 | Age: 19 | Last: 22

Milwaukee continues to search for a center who can properly complement Giannis Antetokounmpo. While there’s no perfect fit available, Robinson’s upside as a rim-runner and paint protector could make him worth a shot here. He’s perceived as a high-risk pick after sitting out the college season, and has one of the widest ranges in the draft. The success of a guy like Jarrett Allen in a similar role in Brooklyn this season may be a blueprint for easing Robinson into the league. His best-case scenario is first-round caliber.

23. Washington Wizards WIZARDS | SHAKE MILTON, G, SMU | JR.
Height: 6'6" | Weight: 205 | Age: 21 | Last: 24

Finding useful backcourt depth behind John Wall and Bradley Beal has been a bit of a challenge for the Wizards, and they should end up in a good draft range to address that need. Milton’s size, unselfishness and shooting ability could make him a nice fit as a third guard. He’s better playing with the ball in his hands, but he’s smooth and experienced and could thrive when not tasked with carrying an offense. Milton has missed a couple of weeks with a hand injury, but doesn’t have much left to prove at the college level.

24.Atlanta Hawks HAWKS* | RAWLE ALKINS, G/F, ARIZONA | SO.
(Note: Atlanta owns Minnesota’s lottery-protected first-round pick.)

Height: 6'4" | Weight: 220 | Age: 20 | Last: 26

Although he’s missed time on and off with a foot injury, Alkins has been an X-factor for Arizona all season and looks to be rounding into form for the stretch run. His ability to slash and shoot from outside and keep up with opposing wings defensively would be a nice fit with Atlanta’s rebuild. Alkins is an intelligent player and has some scoring upside thanks to his strong build and explosive leaping ability. He can gather some steam with a strong finish to the season.

25. Los Angeles Lakers LAKERS* | BRANDON MCCOY, C, UNLV | FR.
(Note: Los Angeles owns Cleveland’s top-three protected first-round pick.)

Height: 7'0" | Weight: 250 | Age: 19 | Last: 23

The Lakers have cleared the deck to pursue top free agents this summer, and acquiring this pick from the Cavs at the deadline was somewhat of a coup. They can angle for a future contributor in this spot, and will be in need of frontcourt help given the likelihood of Brook Lopez’s departure. McCoy isn’t NBA-ready, but has the physical ability to become a competent rotational center and has produced impressively for UNLV. The Lakers can put shooting around him and try to turn him into a useful screener and interior defender.

26.San Antonio Spurs SPURS | JONTAY PORTER, C, MISSOURI | FR.
Height: 6'11" | Weight: 240 | Age: 18 | Last: N/A

Though Porter is best served staying at Mizzou to work on his body and interior game, he’d have a case in the late first round this year. He’s demonstrated a uniquely high-IQ game for a center, and can step out and shoot threes as well as craftily attack the basket on closeouts. Porter reclassified to play alongside his brother this season and has a lot of learning to do, but his instincts for passing and positioning would be a nice long-term fit for the Spurs’ system. He’s a gamble they can afford.

27. Boston Celtics CELTICS | KHYRI THOMAS, SG, CREIGHTON | JR.
Height: 6'3" | Weight: 210 | Age: 21 | Last: 29

A new deal for Marcus Smart could potentially push Boston close or into the luxury tax. Taking another defensive-minded guard in Thomas could be a reasonable alternative. He’s been solid for Creighton this season and emerged as one of the better on-ball defenders in college basketball while hitting threes at a strong clip on the other side of the ball. He’s not a player with crazy upside, but has a chance to fit into a valuable role archetype in someone’s backcourt.

28. Brooklyn Nets NETS* | HAMIDOU DIALLO, SG, KENTUCKY | FR.
(Note: Brooklyn owns Toronto’s lottery-protected 2018 first-round pick.)

Height: 6'5" | Weight: 200 | Age: 19 | Last: 14

Diallo was tied to the Nets last year before pulling out of the draft, and has definite untapped potential as one of the best pure athletes available. His role at Kentucky has diminished of late, and there are relevant questions about his ability to be effective in the halfcourt. He hasn’t helped himself this season, but at this point in the draft, he’s still worth a dice roll. Diallo certainly fits with Brooklyn’s development philosophy.

29. Atlanta Hawks HAWKS* | TREVON DUVAL, PG, DUKE | FR.
(Note: Atlanta owns Houston’s top-three protected first-round pick.)

Height: 6'3" | Weight: 185 | Age: 19 | Last: 17

Though Duval has had his struggles this season at Duke, there have been glimpses of the ability he showed in high school. It’s been well-documented that he can’t really shoot jumpers, but he well-rounded enough to remain in the first-round picture. He’s athletic and can get downhill and make plays, but is still learning to run a team. The Hawks will have three first-rounders, and he could be a nice upside play in this range, particularly given the team doesn’t seem tied down to Dennis Schröder.

30.Golden State Warriors WARRIORS | LANDRY SHAMET, PG, WICHITA STATE | SO.
Height: 6'4" | Weight: 190 | Age: 21 | Last: N/A

Shamet’s size, unselfishness and ability to shoot from distance would be a nice match with the Warriors, who might be priced out of retaining Pat McCaw in restricted free agency. He can be a threat on and off the ball and wouldn’t be tasked with creating too much of his own offense as a member of the Warriors. His smarts and impressive numbers from outside make him an obvious fit here.
ImageImage

"Kevin Durant is not coming to the Nets. If I'm wrong, I will change my avatar to anything you request no matter how humiliating it is." - MrDollarBills, 10/22/18
User avatar
shakendfries
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,886
And1: 1,063
Joined: Jun 24, 2015

Re: The Nets 2018 NBA Draft Thread  

Post#110 » by shakendfries » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:22 pm

LKIRNets wrote:
JiggaMan06 wrote:I hate thinking about the draft cause J3 might go to Cavs with our pick. I hope Chandler Hutch or Kevin Knox slides to us and with the second pick we grab a Hyper PF

I think he's the realistic one sliding. If not we have the piece to move up and get him in the pick and Lin.


We may get lucky if we can move up

[twitter]
Read on Twitter
[/Twitter]




Sent from my iPhone using RealGM mobile app
ImageImage

"Kevin Durant is not coming to the Nets. If I'm wrong, I will change my avatar to anything you request no matter how humiliating it is." - MrDollarBills, 10/22/18
JiggaMan06
Sophomore
Posts: 154
And1: 24
Joined: Jan 31, 2018
     

Re: The Nets 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#111 » by JiggaMan06 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:52 pm

Raptors are killin so that pick will likely be 28-30. I would like to package it with a player and get that second Clippers lottery pick.
User avatar
MrDollarBills
RealGM
Posts: 61,292
And1: 36,911
Joined: Feb 15, 2008
   

Re: The Nets 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#112 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:38 pm

Marks might have to move up if he sees someone of serious value.
BAF Indiana Pacers 2023-24

C: Richaun Holmes/Thomas Bryant
PF: Karl Anthony Towns/Santi Aldama
SF: OG Anunoby/Matisse Thybulle
SG: Luke Kennard/Terance Mann/K. Caldwell Pope
PG: Cole Anthony/Isaiah Joe
User avatar
shakendfries
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,886
And1: 1,063
Joined: Jun 24, 2015

Re: The Nets 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#113 » by shakendfries » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:56 am

This player definitely fits Marks' profile & he's thriving in the system that helped mold Malcolm Brogdon



De’Andre Hunter Has Arrived

The Virginia Cavaliers are currently ranked first in the NCAA in the AP Poll. KenPom.com’s adjusted efficiency margin rates them as the best team in the country. RPI rates them as the best team in the land as well. Nobody saw this coming. In the preseason AP poll, the Cavaliers had the second most votes of any unranked team, effectively ranked 27th. In October, Sports Illustrated picked them to finish 6th in the ACC. Three Man Weave ranked them as the no. 31 team in the country coming into the season. To be fair, it was rational for experts not to expect Virginia’s defense to be arguably the best in recent college basketball history. It made sense to predict a down year from a team that lost its best player and two more guys who started 10+ games. Ty Jerome and Kyle Guy weren’t supposed to be this good this fast. But most importantly, nobody saw De’Andre Hunter coming.

Hunter’s name isn’t mentioned in the Sports Illustrated season preview linked above. Even in Three Man Weave’s thousand-word team preview, he only gets two short sentences. Nobody deserves blame for glossing over him, as Hunter was ranked 80th in in the class of 2016 before redshirting last season. It was completely reasonable to think that he might be a solid bench contributor on a decent ACC team, but few, if any, were projecting more than that. I certainly wasn’t. Despite the lack of fanfare around him entering the season, Hunter has emerged as a key catalyst for the best team in the country. Averaging around 20 minutes per game coming off the bench, his versatility and scoring (second on the team in points per 40 minutes) has been a welcomed addition to a team that otherwise has mostly relied on returning talent.

Why has it taken so long for the draft community to catch on? Some context is necessary. Hunter erupted for 23 points in the fourth game of Virginia’s season against Monmouth before going quiet for the rest of non-conference play, reaching double figures just two other times over the course of the non-conference schedule. However, the redshirt freshman has awoken in ACC play, scoring at least 10 points in 9 of Virginia’s 15 ACC contests. His minutes per game have jumped from 15.7 in the non-conference play to 22.9 in conference play. The 20-year-old has been the best offensive player for the best team in the country since ACC play started, and the scary part is, he keeps improving. Consistently impressive performances as of late have helped Hunter place his name squarely in the middle of NBA draft discussions, and it’s entirely possible that he is the best prospect in the ACC who doesn’t play for Duke.

I. Defensive Projection

Standing 6-foot-8 with a 7-foot-2 wingspan, Hunter has outstanding size for either forward spot in the NBA, and he’s big enough to act as a weak-side rim protector in help situations. Rangy and quick, Hunter has proven capable of defending just about anyone on the switch-heavy perimeter of Tony Bennett’s pack-line defense.

Hunter’s measurements alone make him an intriguing defensive prospect. There have been more than a few prospects whose defensive reputations were built solely upon the fact that their wingspan exceeded 7-feet. But Hunter is much more than a combine standout. He is physical, quick, and reactive. Playing under Tony Bennett has helped him quickly latch on to integral defensive concepts and molded him into a (mostly) automatic off-ball defender. Virginia plays a notoriously conservative scheme, so Hunter’s steal and block numbers don’t jump off the page, but the tape will show you how impactful he is on the defensive end. As a 6-foot-8 guy who can credibly guard 1-4 and protect the rim in doses, Hunter’s defensive projection alone makes him a first-round talent. But he might have even greater upside on offense.


II. Offensive Projection

Hunter (or any Virginia prospect) is the perfect example of why per-possession statistics matter. The Cavaliers play at by far the slowest pace in the NCAA, averaging just 62.3 possessions per game per TeamRankings.com. For reference, the NCAA average is 71.7 possessions per game. Because of his team’s slow pace, Hunter’s per-game and per-40 statistics don’t look all that impressive. However, when adjusting to per-possession scoring, the redshirt freshman’s stats really stand out. Per 100 possessions, he is scoring more points than Wendell Carter Jr., Aaron Holiday, Terence Davis, Devonte’ Graham, Kevin Knox, and many other notable offensive-minded prospects. He is also doing so with tremendous efficiency: 23.3 PER, 58.6% true shooting, and 1.085 points per possession overall (92nd percentile), per Synergy. For much of ACC play, Virginia’s offense has run through him, particularly when they have faced zone defenses.

Image

Hunter grades as “Very Good” in every one of his frequent play types aside from “Off Screen”, which as my colleague Cole Zwicker noted in his excellent piece about wing shot diversity, is a traditionally inefficient play type for college wings. If you were to quickly scan his stats on Sports-Reference, you’d probably just think that Hunter was a guy who finished easy looks around the rim and threw in a spot-up three every once in a while. But on tape, his self-creation upside really pops.

Wings who are as big, as fluid, as smart, and as skilled as Hunter do not come around often. His defense alone makes him draftable, as there aren’t exactly a whole lot of 6-foot-8 players capable of guarding anyone from Chris Lykes to Wendell Carter Jr. Offensively, he’s at worst a mid-range face-up plus who can make smart decisions, crash the glass, and finish at the bucket. But his flashes of self-creation indicate that he has some star upside. He’s been improving at an exponential rate since ACC play began, and there’s an argument to be made that he’s been the most important player on the best team in the country in conference play (in 15 ACC games, Hunter leads Virginia in Win Shares per 40 minutes by a wide margin).

Hunter’s handle will have to get tighter, but it’s hard to watch that pull-up shot he hit against Clemson and not think that he could turn into a monster scoring threat. He might not enter the draft this year, but he should. He belongs squarely in the middle of the lottery discussion and, for me at least, is knocking on the door of the top 10. Players like Hunter are the ones that teams kick themselves for missing on, but the body of work is there if you look for it. His ultimate ceiling will be determined by the development of his jump shot, but there’s a whole lot to like with his game on both ends of the floor. NBA teams lament letting Kawhi Leonard last until the 15th pick in 2011. Hunter is not Leonard, but he might be closer to college Kawhi than any player we’ve seen in the years since Leonard was at San Diego State. De’Andre Hunter has very real star equity, and it would be a massive mistake to let him slip out of the lottery.
ImageImage

"Kevin Durant is not coming to the Nets. If I'm wrong, I will change my avatar to anything you request no matter how humiliating it is." - MrDollarBills, 10/22/18
User avatar
shakendfries
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,886
And1: 1,063
Joined: Jun 24, 2015

Re: The Nets 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#114 » by shakendfries » Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:50 pm

ImageImage

"Kevin Durant is not coming to the Nets. If I'm wrong, I will change my avatar to anything you request no matter how humiliating it is." - MrDollarBills, 10/22/18
TheNetsFan
Head Coach
Posts: 6,956
And1: 2,599
Joined: Feb 11, 2007
   

Re: The Nets 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#115 » by TheNetsFan » Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:14 pm

It's early, but our pick slots look pretty much locked in. The Toronto pick will be 27 or 28, LAL's pick will be 40-42, and Indiana's pick is not conveying this year. It's crazy to see how little potential variability those picks have this early in the season.
User avatar
Claud
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,999
And1: 872
Joined: May 16, 2015
Location: Austin, TX
   

Re: The Nets 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#116 » by Claud » Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:11 pm

We need a 4 like the Finnish Lauri Markkanen... would be perfect fit next to the Fro and Rondae.
Paradise
Nets Forum: Asst. To The RM
Posts: 38,881
And1: 11,875
Joined: Aug 16, 2012
Location: NYC
     

The Nets 2018 NBA Draft Thread  

Post#117 » by Paradise » Thu Mar 1, 2018 5:09 pm

If the season ended today, we will own the Bucks pick.
User avatar
Keith Van Horn
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,895
And1: 1,177
Joined: Feb 18, 2012
   

Re: The Nets 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#118 » by Keith Van Horn » Thu Mar 1, 2018 6:33 pm

Paradise wrote:If the season ended today, we will own the Bucks pick.

It's so low though -- 47 right? It be nice to see them lose a ton more so that pick makes its way into the 30s. Or might as well keep winning, since then it will come to us in 2020 instead with no restrictions (I'm right on that, right?)
Paradise
Nets Forum: Asst. To The RM
Posts: 38,881
And1: 11,875
Joined: Aug 16, 2012
Location: NYC
     

Re: The Nets 2018 NBA Draft Thread  

Post#119 » by Paradise » Fri Mar 2, 2018 3:13 pm

Keith Van Horn wrote:
Paradise wrote:If the season ended today, we will own the Bucks pick.

It's so low though -- 47 right? It be nice to see them lose a ton more so that pick makes its way into the 30s. Or might as well keep winning, since then it will come to us in 2020 instead with no restrictions (I'm right on that, right?)

Yeah, it’s slotted at 48 but we get it unprotected in 2020 if it doesn’t convey this year.
kamaze
General Manager
Posts: 7,791
And1: 1,315
Joined: Jul 10, 2005

Re: The Nets 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#120 » by kamaze » Fri Mar 2, 2018 3:44 pm

So Brooklyn could potentially still get a 1st and 3 second round picks Marks you the man. :clap:
I got the burner-Kevin Durant

Cream rises to the top-Nic Claxton

Return to Brooklyn Nets