kamaze wrote:LKIRNets wrote:kamaze wrote:You're a funny guy overpay when you don't have to.
Good thing Sean Marks makes the decisions.
Who's better a former champion and perennial all star (Kyrie Irving) or a first time all star (D'Angelo Russell)? Ask 10 people and 9 out of 10 would take the former only you would take DLo. Or do others here agree with him...Would you pay $156 million for DLO?
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You don't understand RFA. Good thing ya aint ever taken serious here.
Kyrie has won nothing wit out Lebron. He on a Celtics roster that is underachieving. Ask 9 out of 10 if Kyrie's knee and hips arent an issue? Bruh Dlo is averaging 20-6 at 22 wit out pieces and in the flow of the offense. He's not getting more than $20-21M on RFA cap hold. Teams can't offer more than 25. To answer your question. 156 for 6 would be 26M for a 23 year old. Would probably start 19-20-21-22-37-37. Russell is playing ELITE. Why would ya dumb self give Kyrie on his knee that contract when Russell right there? especially when he running from a team underachieving? just dumb. That's worst case scenario for Russell's contract. 22-23 year old who flipped the switch and is probably the 2nd best scoring PG in the NBA East. There's no way you turn it down.
Now seeing that no team would go Houston Rockets mode and I doubt PHX is that insane for Russell's RFA offer, his offer is looking more like
19-19-20-20-25-25 that would give him until age 29 for his final major contract. Russell knows this business, he's seen bad flexibility on the Lakers and seen good on the Nets. The Nets Sean Marks who scouted him and praised work ethic and attitude per quote even understands his game is becoming elite is realizing he's a max guard and worth it boy.
I can type a longer response off the cell phone and on the computer. Will one of yous explain what they believe RFA is or will you all just keep saying "you don't understand" without giving your own definition of RFA? Nevermind I know how it works see someone respond a certain way and copy that poster.
But he has won no? I'd rather have DLo but not at his max hopefully he signs for less and we don't have to argue about this and trade insults it's childish really. I've been warned and will ease up on DLO. I haven't insulted you why do you chose to do so?
I apologize to the board.
I'm going to respond to this in a non-combative way in order to hopefully move this forward and just eliminate any posts that are not realistic scenarios.
Russell is an RFA, if a team signs him to an offer sheet, we have the right to match. thats like the "duh" part. what the intricate parts that really matter are:
1) Russells Cap Hold is 21 million. The Max another team can offer him is 26 million. The nets allowing Russell to sign an offer sheet with another team (even if they plan to match) would cost the nets 5 million in cap room. Once a team signs russell to an offer sheet, we have just a few days to match. that means we cant use our cap and then go over the cap to sign russell.
it would put marks in a serious bind because if that happens then we no longer have a max slot to offer. that 5 million makes a big difference.
2) Russells cap hold is 21 million. The nets can sign russell to a 5 year deal starting at 21 million with 8% annual raises. That would bring the average salary to about 24.5 million per year. (or 1.5 million less then what other teams can offer).
It would be in marks best interest to offer Dlo a 5 year 120 million dollar offer from day 1. This does not change our cap space even if Dlo pushes to sign it right away since it would start at 21 million and his cap hold is 21 million. while being 1.5 million less per year it would also be 1 year longer then any offersheet he could sign, giving him 20 million more in total money then anyone else could give him
*** HERE IS EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ***
Marks will approch Russell a week or so prior to free agency and give him 2 options:
1) we will give you a 5/120 offer you can sign right now. It wont effect the teams cap and allow the nets to put more talent around Dlo. Dlo gets slightly less then other teams can offer per year but get 1 more year, 20 million more in total money and he doesnt have to wait
2) we will give you your max (or just below it but more then any other team can offer -- say 27 million per year) with the stipulation that you have to wait until we spend our cap first, and then sign so we can put the most talent around you, You get your near max/max, we dont lose our cap space
There is no realistic scenario i can see where russell would ever really hit free agency or entertain any other offers. he can sign right away for more years at similar money or wait and get his max with the nets (which would be a higher max then other teams can offer since we have his rights)
