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Take your shot at the Nets Mock offseason... how realistic you make it depend on you... the only guidlines are that you obey the NBA CBA/Salary cap. for reference, here is our current cap:



Notes:
*Russell and RHJ are eligible for extensions, their new salary on those extensions wouldnt count/start until the 19-20 season.
*The most we can pay Okaor is 6,200,000
*Stauskus qualifying offer is 5,474,787

From there you can make whatever signings, trades, extensions, buyouts you like. nothing is off limits. you decide if you want to go by what you would do, what you think marks will do, or just go 2K18 mode and trade dinwiddie for durant and curry straight up. all for fun and to kill time.

Please list whether its what you would do, what you THINK marks will do, or a hybrid.

Viewpoint: A hybrid of what id do/what marks would do. basically moves id make with the exception of things i think are 100% locks marks does (keep russell/resign harris - to me these are locks).

Buyouts:
-Nets Buyout Jeremy Lin for 9,000,000
Nets clear 4 million in cap space, Lin gets his money and can seek a bigger role. Nets focus on Russell/Levert at the PG position.

-Nets Buyout Timofey Mozgov for 28,000,000
Mozgov is essentially dead weight. Nets clear 2 million in cap space and 4 million of real money, free up a roster spot in the process. Mozgov seeks a role on a team overseas

Trades
-Nets Trade Spencer Dinwidde and the #29 pick to Detroit for Eric Moreland and Detroits 2020 pick lottery protected (or 2021 top 5 protected)
Nets move their late first and dinwiddie in order to gain a better pick a couple years out. no player at 29 is all that attractive and the picks is 99% likely to be at least 5-6 picks higher when it conveys. Detroit gets a pick in the first round (they currently have no pick) and get a Backup combo gaurd in Dinwddie/insurance against Jacksons health.

-Nets purchase the 39th pick from the Philadelphia 76ers for 2,800,000 in cash (Philly has 4 second rounders)
Nets use cash to obtain a third second rounder.

RFA Offer Sheets:
-Nets sign Jabari parker to an offer sheet (with cap space from the buyouts). 4/84 offersheet starting at 19.4 M with annual increases. Parker signs, the bucks take the full period, but do not match.
Nets could not free the money needed for an Aaron Gordon offer sheet, as his agent was asking for the full max. Nets moved on to Randle and Parker as targets before settling on Parker.

Free Agent Signings
-The nets Sign Joe Harris to a 4 year deal worth 36 million dollars (9M per annually/4th year team option)
Both teams want to get it done. Harris takes 1M or so less to stay, nets add 1 year and compensate him for playing ball and waiting to sign. Nets use their Bird rights with harris to go over the cap and sign him

-The nets sign Nerlens Noel to a 4 year 35M deal using the mid level exception (8.8M per year).
Nets take a flier on Noel, who killed his value last season. Nets add another athletic lobs/blocks type center to play behind Allen and hopefully develop to reach his potential. Also fill a huge void at backup C.

-Nets sign Quincy Acy to a 2 year 3.6M deal (vets mininum, 2nd year team option)
Nets bring back the stretch big on a minimum team friendly offer

-Nets sign milton doyle to a 1 year 540k contract (minimum deal)
Nets bring back Doyle on a minimum deal for another look

-Nets sign Jacob Wiley to a 2-way Contract (100k)
Nets bring back wiley on a 2-way deal

NBA Draft
-With the 39th pick (via Philly) the Nets Select: Chandler Hutchinson
Nets add an athletic 2-way wing
-With the 40th pick the Nets Select: Moritz Wagner
Nets add a player with size and grit
-With the 45th pick the Nets Select: Jacob Evans
Nets add an older rookie who can shoot and play both wing spots

Contract Extension:
-Nets extend RHJ ona 4 year 70M contract extensions (17.5M Per)

Summary:
Nets leverage buyouts to get enough cap room to sign one of the young restricted free agents, as Sean Marks has done each of the first two offseason (Nets took out full page ads in the paper thanking Lin and Mozgov for their help in create a culture in Brooklyn). The team had hopes for Aaron Gordon but could not clear the extra 8-9 million to make it work, as any takers for Carroll had required the nets to take back 9 million or more inorder to make the deal work under the salary cap. Without being a real player for Gordon, the Nets set their sites on Favors, Parker, and Randle... eventually settling on Parker due to him having the highest ceiling and ability to play both forward spots.

The Nets decided very early in the process to bring back Joe Harris and Quincy Acy, but to waited until later in the process to make all their offseason moves fit under the cap. They put a huge value on both the 3 point shooting and charecter of Harris and Acy.

The Nets decided to extend Rondae Hollis-Jefferson a 4 year deal at 17.5M per, preventing him from becoming an RFA in 2019 summer. The nets decline to extend Russell, taking a wait and see approach and risking losing him to make him prove he is worth something north of 20 mllion.

Not having any player in mind at #29, and having an eye on the future drafts, Marks moved the #29 pick and Dinwiddie to the Pistons for a 2020 first rounder. The pick is a lock to be at least 5-8 picks better then the #29 it would have been. Dinwiddie was also moved, as the Nets did not think it would have been feasible to resign or extend Dinwiddie after this season with an anticipated contract requiring something in the 4/40 neighborhood. Marks plans to use russell and/or Levert at PG.

The Nets purchased the #39 pick from philly, essentially moving back 10 spots from #29 and getting Chandler Hutchinson, the player marks would have targeted at the end of the first round. Nets select Wagner for some size and get another older rookie who fits the nets mold in Evans.

The Nets added Nerlens Noel in free agency for the MLE. The nets were super thin with true centers last year and get another modern center with some upside on a value-ish contract.

The Nets operate as a team over the cap for the 2018-2019 season but see 25 million coming off the books (remainder of Lins buyout + Carroll) in the 2019 offseason.



Russell | Crabbe| Parker | Hollis-Jefferson | Allen
Levert | Harris | Carroll | Acy | Noel

Rookie: Hutchinson | Wagner | Evans
D-League: Doyle | Whitehead | Wiley

Assets: Pistons 2020 first rounder

I wouldn't be upset with that scenario. Parker scares me with his knee but in this offense, with his efficiency he'd fit perfectly. Our perimeter defense will be pretty terrible.

Noel's attitude problem is a red flag. I don't know if he'd fit here. we want guys that want to commit to improving and playing hard.

RHJ's extension is a no brainer.

For what it's worth, NI has been dropping Nerlens name a lot in the comments of posts that have nothing to do with him the last week or so. I don't believe that has manifested itself into an actual signing very often in the past, but it has almost always coincided with legitimate interest from our, if not both sides. It has been mentioned as a value signing as well, that he won't have a ton of suitors and you're looking at like a 1 to 3 year deal in that $3 to $5 mil a year range.

No way we go after Noel. Allen is enough for a big we need a shooter with size that can play multiple positions. If we can draft Jontay Porter at the 29th i'd be pretty happy with it.

MrDollarBills wrote:I wouldn't be upset with that scenario. Parker scares me with his knee but in this offense, with his efficiency he'd fit perfectly. Our perimeter defense will be pretty terrible.

Noel's attitude problem is a red flag. I don't know if he'd fit here. we want guys that want to commit to improving and playing hard.

RHJ's extension is a no brainer.

i think the biggest takeaway for me from this excersize is that its basically a lock we operate as an over the cap team this season

Make Klay super dirty rich(er)... Name a bridge/tunnel after him.... Name a pizzeria after him

Noel has no place here... No space on the bench to sit more bigs

DeRoma wrote:No way we go after Noel. Allen is enough for a big we need a shooter with size that can play multiple positions. If we can draft Jontay Porter at the 29th i'd be pretty happy with it.

CalamityX12 wrote:Noel has no place here... No space on the bench to sit more bigs

Idk, we're not deep at the 4 or especially the 5 unless Kenny suddenly starts giving steady minutes to Mozgod and he plays as the best version of himself. And Mozgod in current form is a necessary evil simply because we're stuck with him. He isn't a potential long term piece with youth and some unknown on his side.

I don't want them to sign him, I'm just speaking on the actual situation.

Prokorov wrote:

MrDollarBills wrote:I wouldn't be upset with that scenario. Parker scares me with his knee but in this offense, with his efficiency he'd fit perfectly. Our perimeter defense will be pretty terrible.

Noel's attitude problem is a red flag. I don't know if he'd fit here. we want guys that want to commit to improving and playing hard.

RHJ's extension is a no brainer.

i think the biggest takeaway for me from this excersize is that its basically a lock we operate as an over the cap team this season

I don't know if that will be true at all. They may just try to absorb an expiring and let most everyone clear off the books next year, including a Mozgod stretch if necessary. We might see 1 to all of Dinwiddie, Russell and RHJ dealt. Maybe no one signed.

And tbh honest, I think it extremely unlikely that either of Lin or Timmy are bought out this off-season. And I see zero reason Lin accepts $4 million less, his vet min is way less than that and he's not getting anything other than a show and prove one year deal from other teams in all likelihood.

vincecarter4pres wrote:

Prokorov wrote:

MrDollarBills wrote:I wouldn't be upset with that scenario. Parker scares me with his knee but in this offense, with his efficiency he'd fit perfectly. Our perimeter defense will be pretty terrible.

Noel's attitude problem is a red flag. I don't know if he'd fit here. we want guys that want to commit to improving and playing hard.

RHJ's extension is a no brainer.

i think the biggest takeaway for me from this excersize is that its basically a lock we operate as an over the cap team this season

I don't know if that will be true at all. They may just try to absorb an expiring and let most everyone clear off the books next year, including a Mozgod stretch if necessary. We might see 1 to all of Dinwiddie, Russell and RHJ dealt. Maybe no one signed.

And tbh honest, I think it extremely unlikely that either of Lin or Timmy are bought out this off-season. And I see zero reason Lin accepts $4 million less, his vet min is way less than that and he's not getting anything other than a show and prove one year deal from other teams in all likelihood.

if we dont buyout lin and mogov and all we do in the offseason is sign harris we are closing in on being a salary cap team with that alone.

add ANYONE beyond harris and its a lock we are operating as a cap team.

try it yourself, its almost a certainty unless we move carroll/lin for pure cap

1) Harris is not getting $9mil/year, especially from the Nets.
2) $28mil is too much to give in a buyout of Mozgov.
3) Parker is not getting 4/$84mil
4) It's very foolish to extend RHJ early & massively increase his impact on the 2019 offseason cap. Plus, $17.5mil is a large overpay.

TheNetsFan wrote:1) Harris is not getting $9mil/year, especially from the Nets.
2) $28mil is too much to give in a buyout of Mozgov.
3) Parker is not getting 4/$84mil
4) It's very foolish to extend RHJ early & massively increase his impact on the 2019 offseason cap. Plus, $17.5mil is a large overpay.

If Hollis-Jefferson continues his upward trajectory that contract is not an overpay for a consistent two way player. If his 3point shooting takes a step up into the 30's percentage wise you're looking at a player who will be averaging 18-21 points a night without having to be ball dominant.

MrDollarBills wrote:

TheNetsFan wrote:1) Harris is not getting $9mil/year, especially from the Nets.
2) $28mil is too much to give in a buyout of Mozgov.
3) Parker is not getting 4/$84mil
4) It's very foolish to extend RHJ early & massively increase his impact on the 2019 offseason cap. Plus, $17.5mil is a large overpay.

If Hollis-Jefferson continues his upward trajectory that contract is not an overpay for a consistent two way player. If his 3point shooting takes a step up into the 30's percentage wise you're looking at a player who will be averaging 18-21 points a night without having to be ball dominant.

He's an undersized PF who excels in the mid-range, but he does not have the overall game to make him an elite player. PFs don't get paid like PGs. You don't give a RB QB money, and you don't give a PF PG money (unless he's one of the few elite PFs). I like RHJ, I'm just stating that he's not getting $17.5mil per. Even if he does (he won't), it's foolish to replace a $7mil cap hold with $17.5mil before you've had a chance to use that extra $10mil in cap space. If he's indispensable, match any offer. Nobody is maxing out RHJ. If his agent thinks it's a possibility, then RHJ won't agree to an early $17.5mil extension. What's the fear? Somebody offers him $20mil per? I still may prefer having $10mil available in 2019 FA versus saving $2.5mil per for 4 years.

TheNetsFan wrote:

MrDollarBills wrote:

TheNetsFan wrote:1) Harris is not getting $9mil/year, especially from the Nets.
2) $28mil is too much to give in a buyout of Mozgov.
3) Parker is not getting 4/$84mil
4) It's very foolish to extend RHJ early & massively increase his impact on the 2019 offseason cap. Plus, $17.5mil is a large overpay.

If Hollis-Jefferson continues his upward trajectory that contract is not an overpay for a consistent two way player. If his 3point shooting takes a step up into the 30's percentage wise you're looking at a player who will be averaging 18-21 points a night without having to be ball dominant.

He's an undersized PF who excels in the mid-range, but he does not have the overall game to make him an elite player. PFs don't get paid like PGs. You don't give a RB QB money, and you don't give a PF PG money (unless he's one of the few elite PFs). I like RHJ, I'm just stating that he's not getting $17.5mil per. Even if he does (he won't), it's foolish to replace a $7mil cap hold with $17.5mil before you've had a chance to use that extra $10mil in cap space. If he's indispensable, match any offer. Nobody is maxing out RHJ. If his agent thinks it's a possibility, then RHJ won't agree to an early $17.5mil extension. What's the fear? Somebody offers him $20mil per? I still may prefer having $10mil available in 2019 FA versus saving $2.5mil per for 4 years.

he isnt some run of the mill PF. he is basically a longer draymond once he adds some weight and gets hsi 3PT up a bit.

either way, its all moot.

Harris floor is 8M per year. he would get 4/40 on the open market. He is worth at least the MLE, which is 8.8M. nets will give him that much for sure.

Parker isnt worth 8/84, but thats what it will take for them not to match since he is an RFA.

TheNetsFan wrote:

MrDollarBills wrote:

TheNetsFan wrote:1) Harris is not getting $9mil/year, especially from the Nets.
2) $28mil is too much to give in a buyout of Mozgov.
3) Parker is not getting 4/$84mil
4) It's very foolish to extend RHJ early & massively increase his impact on the 2019 offseason cap. Plus, $17.5mil is a large overpay.

If Hollis-Jefferson continues his upward trajectory that contract is not an overpay for a consistent two way player. If his 3point shooting takes a step up into the 30's percentage wise you're looking at a player who will be averaging 18-21 points a night without having to be ball dominant.

He's an undersized PF who excels in the mid-range, but he does not have the overall game to make him an elite player. PFs don't get paid like PGs. You don't give a RB QB money, and you don't give a PF PG money (unless he's one of the few elite PFs). I like RHJ, I'm just stating that he's not getting $17.5mil per. Even if he does (he won't), it's foolish to replace a $7mil cap hold with $17.5mil before you've had a chance to use that extra $10mil in cap space. If he's indispensable, match any offer. Nobody is maxing out RHJ. If his agent thinks it's a possibility, then RHJ won't agree to an early $17.5mil extension. What's the fear? Somebody offers him $20mil per? I still may prefer having $10mil available in 2019 FA versus saving $2.5mil per for 4 years.

Good points, I would probably guess that RHJ probably doesn't get north of 12-14 mil tbh in reality. My question is, is 16-17 mil really PG money though? PGs are making insane amounts of cash right now

Question on the buyouts - how do they impact the cap going forward? The cap hits remain the same and they just get a roster spot?

Netaman wrote:Question on the buyouts - how do they impact the cap going forward? The cap hits remain the same and they just get a roster spot?

the cap hit would be the amount of the buyout.

Prokorov wrote:

TheNetsFan wrote:

MrDollarBills wrote:
If Hollis-Jefferson continues his upward trajectory that contract is not an overpay for a consistent two way player. If his 3point shooting takes a step up into the 30's percentage wise you're looking at a player who will be averaging 18-21 points a night without having to be ball dominant.

He's an undersized PF who excels in the mid-range, but he does not have the overall game to make him an elite player. PFs don't get paid like PGs. You don't give a RB QB money, and you don't give a PF PG money (unless he's one of the few elite PFs). I like RHJ, I'm just stating that he's not getting $17.5mil per. Even if he does (he won't), it's foolish to replace a $7mil cap hold with $17.5mil before you've had a chance to use that extra $10mil in cap space. If he's indispensable, match any offer. Nobody is maxing out RHJ. If his agent thinks it's a possibility, then RHJ won't agree to an early $17.5mil extension. What's the fear? Somebody offers him $20mil per? I still may prefer having $10mil available in 2019 FA versus saving $2.5mil per for 4 years.

he isnt some run of the mill PF. he is basically a longer draymond once he adds some weight and gets hsi 3PT up a bit.

either way, its all moot.

Harris floor is 8M per year. he would get 4/40 on the open market. He is worth at least the MLE, which is 8.8M. nets will give him that much for sure.

Parker isnt worth 8/84, but thats what it will take for them not to match since he is an RFA.

I really like RHJ, but you're massively overrating him.

Harris's floor is not $8mil per. It's unlikely he gets a full MLE. Room MLE or Tax-payer MLE is most likely. The floor is the bi-annual exception.

TheNetsFan wrote:

Prokorov wrote:

TheNetsFan wrote:He's an undersized PF who excels in the mid-range, but he does not have the overall game to make him an elite player. PFs don't get paid like PGs. You don't give a RB QB money, and you don't give a PF PG money (unless he's one of the few elite PFs). I like RHJ, I'm just stating that he's not getting $17.5mil per. Even if he does (he won't), it's foolish to replace a $7mil cap hold with $17.5mil before you've had a chance to use that extra $10mil in cap space. If he's indispensable, match any offer. Nobody is maxing out RHJ. If his agent thinks it's a possibility, then RHJ won't agree to an early $17.5mil extension. What's the fear? Somebody offers him $20mil per? I still may prefer having $10mil available in 2019 FA versus saving $2.5mil per for 4 years.

he isnt some run of the mill PF. he is basically a longer draymond once he adds some weight and gets hsi 3PT up a bit.

either way, its all moot.

Harris floor is 8M per year. he would get 4/40 on the open market. He is worth at least the MLE, which is 8.8M. nets will give him that much for sure.

Parker isnt worth 8/84, but thats what it will take for them not to match since he is an RFA.

I really like RHJ, but you're massively overrating him.

Harris's floor is not $8mil per. It's unlikely he gets a full MLE. Room MLE or Tax-payer MLE is most likely. The floor is the bi-annual exception.

RHJ is all-NBA type defender. with weight he will contend for DPOTY, especially as the nets wins go upward over the years and he gets more visability.

There is no way harris doesnt get at least the MLE. not when he had such an elite year shooting the ball and so many teams needing shooting. with so many teams over the cap, he;d field at least 3-4 offers for the MLE and probably a few in the 10M+ range.