AndySF wrote:I wasn't going to further this conversation with you, not because I was afraid of your cyberbullying, but because I don't want to waste time engaging someone with a closed mind and someone who have an agenda. I reply to mr$ because he debates with good faith. Debating you would be boring, since I can see where you are going and what's coming from a mile away.
Four years in the Navy had enabled me to understand the codes. New country, echo chamber, your home country, where you're from.
May I ask you what qualified you knowledgeable about Hong Kong but made me a bullshiter? It is people like you who knows what's best for other people, never mind that if that's what they want or need. Remember the Trump bots? The liberal elites? I have many relatives in Hong Kong that share those views and are afraid to say so in public. but hey, what do I know. I am not an expert like you and I don't want to force others to think like me. I don't go on to watch a video then hide the fact that I did.
So, the hundreds of thousands of Hong Kong people, whose livelihoods being destroyed, hundreds of businesses being vandalized, every public infrastructure a legitimate target is worth the sacrifice whether they want to or not. Because, it's what is good for them, they just don't know it. But, have jo fear, people like you know what is best for them. This is my last engagement with you. Out.
Ah, yes... the old 'accuse the other guy of the things I'm doing myself' ploy. Good one, Andy.
IME "Mr$" certainly is a great guy to debate with, and indeed open-minded, but if you know one thing about him-- it's that once he has a handle on what the facts and reality are, he won't tolerate a shred of bullsh-t. Not from you, me or anyone else. So, enjoy it while it lasts, matey.
In terms of China, I explained somewhere back in this thread my background on the country. Once again it's nice that you want to put words in my mouth, but I wouldn't exactly call myself an "expert." There are China-watchers that are a zillion times more expert than me, and my understanding of the country, the CCP, and HK is constantly evolving, sometimes subtly, sometimes dramatically. I understand that doesn't fit your narrative, though. Sorry.
Cutting to the chase, I asked you quite clearly for overview links supporting your argument, and all I've received so far is a short video with very little context. As I said above, I wouldn't mind at all doing a deep delve in to aspects of willful / collateral damage the HK protesters have caused. I'm sure there's some. As for why you still haven't responded-- are you in fact worried that I might reach a conclusion contrary to yours? And here I thought you prided yourself on defending the lives and liberties of those that don't agree with you.