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Re: Nets Offseason Moves & Possible Trade Ideas III 

Post#701 » by Prokorov » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:09 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:DW playing the best b-ball of his life...i give him credit. but should we also try to sell high on him? i might get blasted for this. but DW to Pelicans for Mirotic esp now Randle has taken over the starting PF spot isn't a bad idea. Mirotic playing really good bball with the Pelicans too. It's a RFA for UFA trade. the ultimate ques is, do the nets wanna extend DW. If not, then they should really look into this trade. It benefits both sides. NO needs a PG since elfrid peyton is down; and we need a bigger and better stretch 4 than RHJ. Kurocs is decent but i don't think his time to start is up yet. He's a bit outta control at times. We need a more experienced PF like Mirotic.


this would piss me off to the point were id break something.

why would we give up someone we can go over the cap for who has a small cap hold for Mirotic who doesnt have a small cap hold and is a free agent at years end we could sign without moving dinwiddie. nevermind that mirotic is basically just an older more expensive kurucs.

Id move dinwiddie in a second for picks or in a package for ana ll-star
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Re: Nets Offseason Moves & Possible Trade Ideas III 

Post#702 » by Prokorov » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:10 pm

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DarkXaero wrote:
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The Nets are 10-18 and have a pack of young players who are either inconsistent or have substantial questions going into free agency.

Now its your turn. Tell me why they should come to the Nets?
We're 10-18 after our best player went down. Also the record is completely irrelevant, when you're adding two top 5 players in the league who will catapult the team to 60+ wins and instant championship contention. So lets go into the reasons:

1) Biggest market in the US in NYC
2) A young core led by Caris Levert, who showed all star potential, along with Jarrett Allen & whoever turns out to be our 2019 lotto pick. Thats not considering Kurucs & Musa who have also shown promise.
3)One of the best arenas in the league, along with one of the best training facilities in the NBA.
4)A FO with a great reputation, and one that favors modern basketball & analytical approach, plus widely praised by players & agents for taking care of its players.
5)A head coach who has developed a reputation around the league as player friendly and someone who gets his team playing a good brand of basketball, along with high effort.
6) The chance to build a great legacy and history with a franchise which doesn't have much of it.


I don't think any of these things are selling points. if we had a winning record, all of this sounds way better.


record = irrelevant.

what matters is:
-caps pace to team multiple guys up
-assets to trade for a third guy (picks + young players)
-a coach who doesnt alienate guys
-a GM who doesnt alienate guys
-Market

Kahwi isnt going to be like "we are going to suck... no way me klay thompson and kemba can compete in the east... nets only won 28 games last year! we need to go to a team that won 45 games!"
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Re: Nets Offseason Moves & Possible Trade Ideas III 

Post#703 » by DeRoma » Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:25 am

I can see a trade for RHJ and Crabbe for Jabari Parker
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Re: Nets Offseason Moves & Possible Trade Ideas III 

Post#704 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:26 am

DeRoma wrote:I can see a trade for RHJ and Crabbe for Jabari Parker


The same Jabari Parker that can't crack the rotation of a 6-22 team? the same one shooting 29% from 3pt land making

*sees 20 million dollar team option next season*

so hey whats good with offering Chicago a deal for Jabari Parker?
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Re: Nets Offseason Moves & Possible Trade Ideas III 

Post#705 » by DeRoma » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:48 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
DeRoma wrote:I can see a trade for RHJ and Crabbe for Jabari Parker


The same Jabari Parker that can't crack the rotation of a 6-22 team? the same one shooting 29% from 3pt land making

*sees 20 million dollar team option next season*

so hey whats good with offering Chicago a deal for Jabari Parker?

He is a cheap answer for us not giving up draft pick while we get rid of Crabbe's contract. We also give him a chance to tryout for this team since it's not like he is a complete scrub. The Bulls system can also be the reason why he is not playing well. Their system is completely dysfunctional and have an awful mesh of players. The whole entire team is filled with playmakers and they run iso ball majority of the time to score. Parker can potentially flourish with our team without us taking a big risk. This is a complete Marks move IMO.
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Re: Nets Offseason Moves & Possible Trade Ideas III 

Post#706 » by kamaze » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:01 am

DeRoma wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
DeRoma wrote:I can see a trade for RHJ and Crabbe for Jabari Parker


The same Jabari Parker that can't crack the rotation of a 6-22 team? the same one shooting 29% from 3pt land making

*sees 20 million dollar team option next season*

so hey whats good with offering Chicago a deal for Jabari Parker?

He is a cheap answer for us not giving up draft pick while we get rid of Crabbe's contract. We also give him a chance to tryout for this team since it's not like he is a complete scrub. The Bulls system can also be the reason why he is not playing well. Their system is completely dysfunctional and have an awful mesh of players. The whole entire team is filled with playmakers and they run iso ball majority of the time to score. Parker can potentially flourish with our team without us taking a big risk. This is a complete Marks move IMO.


If the goal is to shed Crabbe's $19,332,500 of salary adding Jabari's $20 million only makes the cap worse...
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Re: Nets Offseason Moves & Possible Trade Ideas III 

Post#707 » by DeRoma » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:09 am

kamaze wrote:
DeRoma wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
The same Jabari Parker that can't crack the rotation of a 6-22 team? the same one shooting 29% from 3pt land making

*sees 20 million dollar team option next season*

so hey whats good with offering Chicago a deal for Jabari Parker?

He is a cheap answer for us not giving up draft pick while we get rid of Crabbe's contract. We also give him a chance to tryout for this team since it's not like he is a complete scrub. The Bulls system can also be the reason why he is not playing well. Their system is completely dysfunctional and have an awful mesh of players. The whole entire team is filled with playmakers and they run iso ball majority of the time to score. Parker can potentially flourish with our team without us taking a big risk. This is a complete Marks move IMO.


If the goal is to shed Crabbe's $19,332,500 of salary adding Jabari's $20 million only makes the cap worse...

He is an expiring with a team option next year. Just decline and he is an expiring.
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Post#708 » by kamaze » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:23 am

Crabbe's contract bothers some fans more than it does the team.
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Re: Nets Offseason Moves & Possible Trade Ideas III 

Post#709 » by gambakupu » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:24 am

Is there a possibility to renegotiate crabbe's deal? a scenario where he opts out and sign a 2-3 years of ~10 mil ?
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Post#710 » by DeRoma » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:24 am

gambakupu wrote:Is there a possibility to renegotiate crabbe's deal? a scenario where he opts out and sign a 2-3 years of ~10 mil ?

Yes waive and stretch him.
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Re: Nets Offseason Moves & Possible Trade Ideas III 

Post#711 » by gambakupu » Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:31 am

DeRoma wrote:
gambakupu wrote:Is there a possibility to renegotiate crabbe's deal? a scenario where he opts out and sign a 2-3 years of ~10 mil ?

Yes waive and stretch him.


I meant in case we want to retain him and he wants to stay, is it legal (CBAwise) to do what i suggested?
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Re: Nets Offseason Moves & Possible Trade Ideas III 

Post#712 » by Paradise » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:12 pm

So, we’ve been sending scouts to Phoenix multiple times...

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Re: Nets Offseason Moves & Possible Trade Ideas III 

Post#713 » by Prokorov » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:47 pm

kamaze wrote:
DeRoma wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
The same Jabari Parker that can't crack the rotation of a 6-22 team? the same one shooting 29% from 3pt land making

*sees 20 million dollar team option next season*

so hey whats good with offering Chicago a deal for Jabari Parker?

He is a cheap answer for us not giving up draft pick while we get rid of Crabbe's contract. We also give him a chance to tryout for this team since it's not like he is a complete scrub. The Bulls system can also be the reason why he is not playing well. Their system is completely dysfunctional and have an awful mesh of players. The whole entire team is filled with playmakers and they run iso ball majority of the time to score. Parker can potentially flourish with our team without us taking a big risk. This is a complete Marks move IMO.


If the goal is to shed Crabbe's $19,332,500 of salary adding Jabari's $20 million only makes the cap worse...


jabari is a team option, we woulddecline the option
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Re: Nets Offseason Moves & Possible Trade Ideas III 

Post#714 » by Prokorov » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:49 pm

Paradise wrote:So, we’ve been sending scouts to Phoenix multiple times...

Read on Twitter


my guess is we werent there for ariza but for other players as we might be involved in facilitating an ariza deal. now that dinwiddie signed we likely use all our cap to take on salary and eventually give new deals to dlo and rhj
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Re: Nets Offseason Moves & Possible Trade Ideas III 

Post#715 » by shakendfries » Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:38 pm

I dissed the weakazz Bulls organization and now their trolls have appeared suggesting stupidazz sht like trading for Parker and Mirotic smh
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Re: Nets Offseason Moves & Possible Trade Ideas III 

Post#716 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:45 pm

DeRoma wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
DeRoma wrote:I can see a trade for RHJ and Crabbe for Jabari Parker


The same Jabari Parker that can't crack the rotation of a 6-22 team? the same one shooting 29% from 3pt land making

*sees 20 million dollar team option next season*

so hey whats good with offering Chicago a deal for Jabari Parker?

He is a cheap answer for us not giving up draft pick while we get rid of Crabbe's contract. We also give him a chance to tryout for this team since it's not like he is a complete scrub. The Bulls system can also be the reason why he is not playing well. Their system is completely dysfunctional and have an awful mesh of players. The whole entire team is filled with playmakers and they run iso ball majority of the time to score. Parker can potentially flourish with our team without us taking a big risk. This is a complete Marks move IMO.


I could care less about Parker flourishing tbh, I like the fact that he would open up a massive 20 mil in cap space to offset Spencer's 10 mil hit
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Re: Nets Offseason Moves & Possible Trade Ideas III 

Post#717 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:47 pm

gambakupu wrote:
DeRoma wrote:
gambakupu wrote:Is there a possibility to renegotiate crabbe's deal? a scenario where he opts out and sign a 2-3 years of ~10 mil ?

Yes waive and stretch him.


I meant in case we want to retain him and he wants to stay, is it legal (CBAwise) to do what i suggested?


that is against the CBA rules.
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Re: Nets Offseason Moves & Possible Trade Ideas III 

Post#718 » by DeRoma » Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:48 pm

Paradise wrote:So, we’ve been sending scouts to Phoenix multiple times...

Read on Twitter

I think possible trade scenario is:

Dlo+Graham for Bridges+Bender

Dlo+Crabbe+RHJ for Ariza+Bender+(Bridges or Jackson)
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Re: Nets Offseason Moves & Possible Trade Ideas III 

Post#719 » by DeRoma » Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:48 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
DeRoma wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
The same Jabari Parker that can't crack the rotation of a 6-22 team? the same one shooting 29% from 3pt land making

*sees 20 million dollar team option next season*

so hey whats good with offering Chicago a deal for Jabari Parker?

He is a cheap answer for us not giving up draft pick while we get rid of Crabbe's contract. We also give him a chance to tryout for this team since it's not like he is a complete scrub. The Bulls system can also be the reason why he is not playing well. Their system is completely dysfunctional and have an awful mesh of players. The whole entire team is filled with playmakers and they run iso ball majority of the time to score. Parker can potentially flourish with our team without us taking a big risk. This is a complete Marks move IMO.


I could care less about Parker flourishing tbh, I like the fact that he would open up a massive 20 mil in cap space to offset Spencer's 10 mil hit

I'm just saying the positives out of this obviously i'd rather want us to have the cap space for even suggesting this
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Re: Nets Offseason Moves & Possible Trade Ideas III 

Post#720 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:50 pm

Paradise wrote:So, we’ve been sending scouts to Phoenix multiple times...

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Russell for Josh Jackson and Bender's expiring? I really don't want to part ways with Russell tbh but I have no clue whats going to happen.
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