GT: Jazz vs Nets - Wednesday, 11/28/18, 7:30pm

[TheNetsFan]

So this Zion kid is good you say?

[MrDollarBills]

That was an offense foul on Gobert monster dunk.

Allen shouldn't have left his feet. He gave him easy position. He'll learn not to do that dumb **** again.

[DarkXaero]

That was an offense foul on Gobert monster dunk.

It was all around **** defense by JA more than anything.

[MrDollarBills]

So this Zion kid is good you say?

The sad part is despite these losses we're still not trash enough to even qualify for him.

Anyone who doesn't think a talent like Zion wouldn't be a difference maker on this roster is kidding themselves. Meanwhile, I suppose we'll be drafting Langford or Doumbouya and paying Tobias Harris a max contract.

rooting for this franchise is pure masochism.

[DarkXaero]

This season has been a sophomore slump for Mitchell, I'm glad we gave him his rhythm back tonight.

[TheNetsFan]

We need average or better forwards and wings.

[Paradise]

So this Zion kid is good you say?

The sad part is despite these losses we're still not trash enough to even qualify for him.

Anyone who doesn't think a talent like Zion wouldn't be a difference maker on this roster is kidding themselves. Meanwhile, I suppose we'll be drafting Langford or Doumbouya and paying Tobias Harris a max contract.

rooting for this franchise is pure masochism.

You say that like it’s a bad thing lol

That’s a good off-season for everybody else across the league. I love Zion but I think he elevates us as a destination and media attention but I’m not convinced he’s the best talent to become an immediate contributor. He’s going to be closer to Simmons/Randle in the NBA more times than not as a rookie.

[MGrand15]

Kenny's really the king of calling a time out and drawing up a play that ends with us not even being able to inbound it.

Pretty awful game from start to finish. Im glad Mitchell entertained his fans at the game though.

[Paradise]

I’m not even mad. We are losing the way I hoped we would in 2018.

I’ve literally sat thinking about how this season would be since 2013 and I’m not even sad about these losses. I’m kind of excited.

[MrDollarBills]

Take this tape and throw it in the trash. The Nets just did not have it as a team offensively.

Russell cannot have 6-25, 4 TO performances. I thought he did some good things out there (7 asts, 3 stls) despite the poor shooting but the team is relying on him to come through. The inconsistency has got to go.

[Nostalgialite]

Just a horrendous game all around by everyone except Dinwiddie really. Jazz defense definitely played better today than they've been advertised so far this season, but their offense was still horrendous until Mitchell took over in the late fourth.

It's hard to really evaluate coaches when "star" talent is out and the roster is flawed, but Atkinson deserves to starting getting criticism at some point. Stop running all-bench lineup. Stagger the damn starters more. All bench line ups don't work for the most part. And again, the Nets suck in clutch moments ATO. Feels like every clutch movement they have after a timeout, they turn the ball over. How is that even possible?

The Nets need to put the older players on the roster in a retirement home. Trade Carroll, stop playing Dudley (or the other way around). They're doing nothing to justify they're playing time besides being veterans. The team clearly sucks without LeVert, so just go all in on the young talent. Play Kurucs and Musa to see what you have, because this team clearly isn't going to win games with the way their playing right now. If they lose the next few games at home and on the road, they should rev up the tank engine.

[MrDollarBills]

So this Zion kid is good you say?

The sad part is despite these losses we're still not trash enough to even qualify for him.

Anyone who doesn't think a talent like Zion wouldn't be a difference maker on this roster is kidding themselves. Meanwhile, I suppose we'll be drafting Langford or Doumbouya and paying Tobias Harris a max contract.

rooting for this franchise is pure masochism.

You say that like it’s a bad thing lol

That’s a good off-season for everybody else across the league. I love Zion but I think he elevates us as a destination and media attention but I’m not convinced he’s the best talent to become an immediate contributor. He’s going to be closer to Simmons/Randle in the NBA more times than not as a rookie.

I think Zion is a flat out stud and a day 1 starter on any NBA roster. Watching him play, he's one of those dudes who has no business even bothering with college basketball. I think he'd be an immediate contributor on this team. Can you imagine having him, Kurucs, and Allen along with LeVert? I sign up right now for that.

Either way, I'll definitely take Langford or Doumbouya.

[MrDollarBills]

Just a horrendous game all around by everyone except Dinwiddie really. Jazz defense definitely played better today than they've been advertised so far this season, but their offense was still horrendous until Mitchell took over in the late fourth.

It's hard to really evaluate coaches when "star" talent is out and the roster is flawed, but Atkinson deserves to starting getting criticism at some point. Stop running all-bench lineup. Stagger the damn starters more. All bench line ups don't work for the most part. And again, the Nets suck in clutch moments ATO. Feels like every clutch movement they have after a timeout, they turn the ball over. How is that even possible?

The Nets need to put the older players on the roster in a retirement home. Trade Carroll, stop playing Dudley (or the other way around). They're doing nothing to justify they're playing time besides being veterans. The team clearly sucks without LeVert, so just go all in on the young talent. Play Kurucs and Musa to see what you have, because this team clearly isn't going to win games with the way their playing right now. If they lose the next few games at home and on the road, they should rev up the tank engine.

I think Ed Davis and Napier are fine and they should play. Carroll's peak was last season. Dudley is done.

It's time to play Kurucs. If the Nets want to bring Musa along a bit slower fine, but Kurucs has shown that he can play, at least before he gets put onto the opposing scouting reports.

Crabbe at this point is a failed experiment. He's terrible and the Nets may have to really consider either convincing him to opt out and sign for less for more years or even stretching him. that 18 million dollars next season is a no go on the cap.

Out of the three young free agents upcoming, Dinwiddie is the only one making a case to be retained on a decent contact. Russell can't have nights like this and then expect to be paid. RHJ probably isn't going to get more than MLE level money since he hasn't improved his range.

[Paradise]

The sad part is despite these losses we're still not trash enough to even qualify for him.

Anyone who doesn't think a talent like Zion wouldn't be a difference maker on this roster is kidding themselves. Meanwhile, I suppose we'll be drafting Langford or Doumbouya and paying Tobias Harris a max contract.

rooting for this franchise is pure masochism.

You say that like it’s a bad thing lol

That’s a good off-season for everybody else across the league. I love Zion but I think he elevates us as a destination and media attention but I’m not convinced he’s the best talent to become an immediate contributor. He’s going to be closer to Simmons/Randle in the NBA more times than not as a rookie.

I think Zion is a flat out stud and a day 1 starter on any NBA roster. Watching him play, he's one of those dudes who has no business even bothering with college basketball. I think he'd be an immediate contributor on this team. Can you imagine having him, Kurucs, and Allen along with LeVert? I sign up right now for that.

Either way, I'll definitely take Langford or Doumbouya.

I know. I want him too but I’m cool with our initial theory of Reddish/LeVert or Little/LeVert if we don’t.

We’re going to rapidly fall into 4th or 5th on this December upcoming schedule. Memphis, @Washington, OKC, Toronto, @Philly, Washington, ATL, LAL.

Only true ‘winnable’ games are Cavs, Knicks, Hawks in December but we can easily lose those in a close game or get owned by Kanter per usual.

Besides, in the last two to three drafts the magic number has been the 3rd pick.

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I think Sekou Doumboya is going to be the Doncic of this draft. He’s by far the best French prospect since Gobert. He’ll murder the combine and the hype will truly begin there.

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[TheNetsFan]

So this Zion kid is good you say?

The sad part is despite these losses we're still not trash enough to even qualify for him.

Anyone who doesn't think a talent like Zion wouldn't be a difference maker on this roster is kidding themselves. Meanwhile, I suppose we'll be drafting Langford or Doumbouya and paying Tobias Harris a max contract.

rooting for this franchise is pure masochism.

Nobody has better than a 14% chance. We currently have a 7.5%. That's not a huge dufference. Plus, they draw for the first 4 slots now.

[FrenchNBAFan]

Just a horrendous game all around by everyone except Dinwiddie really. Jazz defense definitely played better today than they've been advertised so far this season, but their offense was still horrendous until Mitchell took over in the late fourth.

It's hard to really evaluate coaches when "star" talent is out and the roster is flawed, but Atkinson deserves to starting getting criticism at some point. Stop running all-bench lineup. Stagger the damn starters more. All bench line ups don't work for the most part. And again, the Nets suck in clutch moments ATO. Feels like every clutch movement they have after a timeout, they turn the ball over. How is that even possible?

The Nets need to put the older players on the roster in a retirement home. Trade Carroll, stop playing Dudley (or the other way around). They're doing nothing to justify they're playing time besides being veterans. The team clearly sucks without LeVert, so just go all in on the young talent. Play Kurucs and Musa to see what you have, because this team clearly isn't going to win games with the way their playing right now. If they lose the next few games at home and on the road, they should rev up the tank engine.

I think Ed Davis and Napier are fine and they should play. Carroll's peak was last season. Dudley is done.

It's time to play Kurucs. If the Nets want to bring Musa along a bit slower fine, but Kurucs has shown that he can play, at least before he gets put onto the opposing scouting reports.

Crabbe at this point is a failed experiment. He's terrible and the Nets may have to really consider either convincing him to opt out and sign for less for more years or even stretching him. that 18 million dollars next season is a no go on the cap.

Out of the three young free agents upcoming, Dinwiddie is the only one making a case to be retained on a decent contact. Russell can't have nights like this and then expect to be paid. RHJ probably isn't going to get more than MLE level money since he hasn't improved his range.

Calm with RHJ bro

[Nostalgialite]

Just a horrendous game all around by everyone except Dinwiddie really. Jazz defense definitely played better today than they've been advertised so far this season, but their offense was still horrendous until Mitchell took over in the late fourth.

It's hard to really evaluate coaches when "star" talent is out and the roster is flawed, but Atkinson deserves to starting getting criticism at some point. Stop running all-bench lineup. Stagger the damn starters more. All bench line ups don't work for the most part. And again, the Nets suck in clutch moments ATO. Feels like every clutch movement they have after a timeout, they turn the ball over. How is that even possible?

The Nets need to put the older players on the roster in a retirement home. Trade Carroll, stop playing Dudley (or the other way around). They're doing nothing to justify they're playing time besides being veterans. The team clearly sucks without LeVert, so just go all in on the young talent. Play Kurucs and Musa to see what you have, because this team clearly isn't going to win games with the way their playing right now. If they lose the next few games at home and on the road, they should rev up the tank engine.

I think Ed Davis and Napier are fine and they should play. Carroll's peak was last season. Dudley is done.

It's time to play Kurucs. If the Nets want to bring Musa along a bit slower fine, but Kurucs has shown that he can play, at least before he gets put onto the opposing scouting reports.

Crabbe at this point is a failed experiment. He's terrible and the Nets may have to really consider either convincing him to opt out and sign for less for more years or even stretching him. that 18 million dollars next season is a no go on the cap.

Out of the three young free agents upcoming, Dinwiddie is the only one making a case to be retained on a decent contact. Russell can't have nights like this and then expect to be paid. RHJ probably isn't going to get more than MLE level money since he hasn't improved his range.

I'm fine with Davis continuing to play. Napier too, but if they decided to cut Napier's minutes to play Musa, I wouldn't mind it.

Crabbe is just a sunken cost at this point. There's no way he's going to opt out of the contract next season, regardless of what the Nets say to him. You don't just opt out of 18M.

I agree on Dinwiddie being the only one that is making a case to be retained. The team has a better netrating when he's out there compared to D'Lo. However, I don't think RHJ will get close to the MLE. I've said it before, but the same issues that existed when he was a rookie still exist four years later. Can't shoot, can't dribble when he's being pressured and stumbles all over the place at times, can't play him at SF cause lack of shooting, and it's hard to play him at the four with a non-shooting big. He may be the only positive defender the Nets have, but he's not an elite defender, just a good one. A non-shooting wing who can't shoot, can't finish at the rim at an above average percentage, and isn't an elite defender isn't worth the MLE or slightly above it. The Nets are going to hardball him cause he doesn't fit in today's NBA, but that's just my opinion.

[Papi_swav]

Seen the last 2 mins of the game, just in time to see Gobert dunk on Allen lol. Horrible shooting from Russell tonight but I cant blame him too much, he's our only offense and Dinwiddie fouled out.

[babyjax13]

Just a horrendous game all around by everyone except Dinwiddie really. Jazz defense definitely played better today than they've been advertised so far this season, but their offense was still horrendous until Mitchell took over in the late fourth.

It's hard to really evaluate coaches when "star" talent is out and the roster is flawed, but Atkinson deserves to starting getting criticism at some point. Stop running all-bench lineup. Stagger the damn starters more. All bench line ups don't work for the most part. And again, the Nets suck in clutch moments ATO. Feels like every clutch movement they have after a timeout, they turn the ball over. How is that even possible?

The Nets need to put the older players on the roster in a retirement home. Trade Carroll, stop playing Dudley (or the other way around). They're doing nothing to justify they're playing time besides being veterans. The team clearly sucks without LeVert, so just go all in on the young talent. Play Kurucs and Musa to see what you have, because this team clearly isn't going to win games with the way their playing right now. If they lose the next few games at home and on the road, they should rev up the tank engine.

I've been watching Nets games when there aren't Jazz games on b/c your offense is just beautiful to watch - even if a lot of the players suck. Atkinson is one of the best coaches in the league.

[Nostalgialite]

Just a horrendous game all around by everyone except Dinwiddie really. Jazz defense definitely played better today than they've been advertised so far this season, but their offense was still horrendous until Mitchell took over in the late fourth.

It's hard to really evaluate coaches when "star" talent is out and the roster is flawed, but Atkinson deserves to starting getting criticism at some point. Stop running all-bench lineup. Stagger the damn starters more. All bench line ups don't work for the most part. And again, the Nets suck in clutch moments ATO. Feels like every clutch movement they have after a timeout, they turn the ball over. How is that even possible?

The Nets need to put the older players on the roster in a retirement home. Trade Carroll, stop playing Dudley (or the other way around). They're doing nothing to justify they're playing time besides being veterans. The team clearly sucks without LeVert, so just go all in on the young talent. Play Kurucs and Musa to see what you have, because this team clearly isn't going to win games with the way their playing right now. If they lose the next few games at home and on the road, they should rev up the tank engine.

I've been watching Nets games when there aren't Jazz games on b/c your offense is just beautiful to watch - even if a lot of the players suck. Atkinson is one of the best coaches in the league.

I think the offense is fine and it's perfect for today's NBA. The team is just lacking in star talent to really make it work, but they're 11 in offensive rating, which is pretty impressive for a team without a star. But there's just minor things he does or doesn't do that irritates me. ATO offense sucks (especially in clutch situations), weird rotations in close games, and all bench lineups don't work unless you're certain teams (Last year's boston/raptors team, Dallas this year).