Controversial topic but should the nets make a run at Bradley Beal?(article)

[Ryusoulger]

3 Players That Could Be On The Move For The Brooklyn Nets

With the NBA season now fast approaching and a revamped Brooklyn Nets roster, is it possible to think that the team isn’t done making moves? Let’s discuss three players that could possibly be on the move this year.

The Brooklyn Nets have found themselves in a situation that every team in the league dreams of being in, landing the top two Free Agents on the market in Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant. However due to some contractual issues that the future may hold, is it possible that we’ll see some players make their exit this season? Let’s jump right into it.

Caris LeVert

The Brooklyn Nets do own the Bird Rights on Caris LeVert, meaning that they’re allowed to exceed the salary cap in the summer of 2020 to keep him in Kings County. However, if something is to change, and a godfather offer is to emerge, what do you do? Caris has emerged as one of the brightest young talents in the league, even earning the nickname “Baby Kevin Durant” something that is now admittedly pretty comical considering they’re teammates. An athletic forward with a “pick your poison” type mentality on the offensive end.

So what could the market hold for him? It’s difficult to say as Caris is only making $2.6 million this season. So matching value to contracts would be difficult without severely dipping into the luxury tax. This means you’re either compensating by acquiring draft picks, or your’re settling for even younger and more developmental talent. An example could be the Detroit Pistons shooting guard Luke Kennard. An emerging perimeter shooter that the fans and the franchise are high on. A talent like Luke attached to a draft pick, and maybe the ball starts rolling on a conversation.

Joe Harris

As one of the league’s best three point shooters a season ago, Joe Harris is beginning to make a name for himself. That being something that has reached its peak value in today’s NBA, along with the same contractual issues the Nets may find themselves in with Joe could lead to him being dealt. Now as is the case with Caris, the Brooklyn Nets do also own Joe’s Bird Rights, so why would they move him?

Because teams on the brink of contending for a championship, or even fringe playoff teams will get very desperate. It is entirely within the realm of possibility to believe a team like the Lakers, the Clippers, or even the Blazers or Jazz could get nervous and sell a little to much for Joe at the deadline.

The reason the Nets may even entertain this (as they are both on the brink of contending for a title next season and to some a fringe playoff team this season.) is because the return they could possibly get could be too much to pass up, whether it’s a stockpile of picks or talent that makes an immediate impact.

Spencer Dinwiddie

There is no shortage of teams in the league that would gladly employ the services of Brooklyn Nets point guard Spencer Dinwiddie. A Sixth Man of the Year hopeful, he brings to the table everything a contending team would need. After scoring a career high in points last season at 16.8 per game, Spencer is a consistent scoring option off of the bench and provides a spark that they Brooklyn Nets need.

Every team needs a point guard with the court vision on offense and prowess on defense that Spencer has. Make no mistake, with a contract sitting at $10.6 million, the Brooklyn Nets can get value that matches contracts. Draft picks will always suffice, but if the team is parting ways with Spencer, expect a hefty return.

Trading all three?

Albeit a tough reality to imagine, one certainly exists in which the Brooklyn Nets could receive an offer to great to pass up. What if Caris LeVert, Joe Harris, and Spencer Dinwiddie were all traded at once? It would certainly be for a player that immediately moves the needle and instantly turns the team into a contender if not this season, but next when Kevin Durant makes his full return.

What in the world would that return look like? Let’s entertain an idea:

Washington receives: Spencer Dinwiddie, Joe Harris, Dzanan Musa

Detroit receives: Caris LeVert, 2020 1st round draft pick

Brooklyn receives: Bradley Beal, Luke Kennard, Bruce Brown

This is relatively conceivable given the current direction of the Wizards, and Detroit needs a small forward upgrade. The Nets would immediately add an additional superstar which would propel them into being title favorites in 2020-2021.

This is all under the assumption that any of the three aforementioned players get dealt, which for all intents an purposes, for the sake of keeping a successful roster together, they shouldn’t. The Brooklyn Nets could have some tough decisions on their hands if teams get desperate around the trade deadline, which they always do.
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I personally say no, I like the depth of the team but just wanted to hear you guys view points

[kamaze]

I'd pass on Beal, they already have a good versatile players in Dinwiddie and LeVert plus a good 3 point threat in Joe Harris.

[Keith Van Horn]

I've been in and out since free agency sort of ended, and I haven't seen you posting before so welcome to the Nets board!

Do you write for that site? Or did you just find it?

I think Beal would be tremendous on this team. But at the cost of Caris, Joe, Spencer, and a 2020 1st, that's too much. I think the Nets will let this team marinate this season, and then see how Durant does when he comes into the mix.

Caris is a prime candidate for an early extension, and I'd be giddy if they locked him up for 4/80 (or under).

Joe is tricky... I could see the Nets selling high on him for more draft picks and/or a player on an early rookie deal. Isn't his cap hold pretty high? They'd renounce and hope for him to resign I bet. All things so far point to Joe loving Brooklyn, and I think management loves him too.

Spence is a lock to stay IMO. He was the force behind getting Kyrie, and management has got to know that sending him away might mess with the chemistry... i.e. Kyrie would be pissed. He's so valuable in his role off the bench too, I don't think the Nets give that up.

[Ryusoulger]

I've been in and out since free agency sort of ended, and I haven't seen you posting before so welcome to the Nets board!

Do you write for that site? Or did you just find it?

I think Beal would be tremendous on this team. But at the cost of Caris, Joe, Spencer, and a 2020 1st, that's too much. I think the Nets will let this team marinate this season, and then see how Durant does when he comes into the mix.

Caris is a prime candidate for an early extension, and I'd be giddy if they locked him up for 4/80 (or under).

Joe is tricky... I could see the Nets selling high on him for more draft picks and/or a player on an early rookie deal. Isn't his cap hold pretty high? They'd renounce and hope for him to resign I bet. All things so far point to Joe loving Brooklyn, and I think management loves him too.

Spence is a lock to stay IMO. He was the force behind getting Kyrie, and management has got to know that sending him away might mess with the chemistry... i.e. Kyrie would be pissed. He's so valuable in his role off the bench too, I don't think the Nets give that up.

Thank you. No I don’t write for the site. I’ve always lurked and made an account as there’s not many Nets spaces available.

And I agree. I love the nets depth and giving away most of that for Beal isn’t a option for me but some people on Twitter were debating it so I brought it here

[Keith Van Horn]

I've been in and out since free agency sort of ended, and I haven't seen you posting before so welcome to the Nets board!

Do you write for that site? Or did you just find it?

I think Beal would be tremendous on this team. But at the cost of Caris, Joe, Spencer, and a 2020 1st, that's too much. I think the Nets will let this team marinate this season, and then see how Durant does when he comes into the mix.

Caris is a prime candidate for an early extension, and I'd be giddy if they locked him up for 4/80 (or under).

Joe is tricky... I could see the Nets selling high on him for more draft picks and/or a player on an early rookie deal. Isn't his cap hold pretty high? They'd renounce and hope for him to resign I bet. All things so far point to Joe loving Brooklyn, and I think management loves him too.

Spence is a lock to stay IMO. He was the force behind getting Kyrie, and management has got to know that sending him away might mess with the chemistry... i.e. Kyrie would be pissed. He's so valuable in his role off the bench too, I don't think the Nets give that up.

Thank you. No I don’t write for the site. I’ve always lurked and made an account as there’s not many Nets spaces available.

And I agree. I love the nets depth and giving away most of that for Beal isn’t a option for me but some people on Twitter were debating it so I brought it here

oh got yah. Yeah I'd LOVE Beal here but with the scene in Washington (new GM, wanting a haul for Beal) I just don't see us being able to get him.

I'm hoping for the best case scenario:
- Levert makes that jump we've all been expecting, a la Siakam last year. And he's in the mix for MIP award, and potentially makes the ASG. It seemed he was on pace last year.
- Joe repeats last year. Supper efficient shooting, top (or at least near the top) 3 point% in the league.
- Spencer stays healthy and consistent. Does big things torching second units and has plenty of those game takeover moments.

[MrDollarBills]

I'd prefer to see what we have with LeVert. Beal would be a great fit next to KD and Kyrie but I think we have something here with Caris.

[TheNetsFan]

Beal would be a great fit, and is more or less everything we hope LeVert could develop into. That being said, the one thing we have working for us right now is that we're far deeper than most top playoff teams. Would we want to decimate that depth for a Super LeVert? I'm not sure that Beal relegated to being a 3rd option, is worth LeVert, Harris, Dinwiddie & a 1st.

On a side note, Detroit's role in such a deal makes no sense to me.

[Prokorov]

agree.... its an overpay in talent and hits our depth hard.

Id give them any 2 of levert/dinwidde/harris but not all 3. id prefer to keep joe or levert.

Beal is 26 a legit all-star and under contract as well....

Kyrie | Beal | Prince| Durant | Allen

Levert | Nwamba | Temple | Rodi | Jordan

thats a championship team where the pieces are all elite fits

[Claud]

Caris alone can become as good as beal by the end of this upcoming season + is homegrown star.

My hope is that ownership pays whatever is necessary to keep Caris and Joe in BK long term.

Beal is excellent guard but we don't nee him. We have Kyrie, Dinwiddie, Caris and Musa coming up for that position.

Hard pass.

[Prokorov]

Washington receives: Spencer Dinwiddie, Joe Harris, Dzanan Musa

Detroit receives: Caris LeVert, 2020 1st round draft pick

Brooklyn receives: Bradley Beal, Luke Kennard, Bruce Brown[/b]

No offense, but this trade is putrid and is really 2 seperate trades as detroit and washington dont swap any players/picks. its basically:

Dinwiddie, Harris, Musa for Beal (great deal for the nets... not so much for the wizards)

and

Levert/2020 1st for Kenard/brown (all-time billy king level putrid trade)

[Prokorov]

Caris alone can become as good as beal by the end of this upcoming season + is homegrown star.

My hope is that ownership pays whatever is necessary to keep Caris and Joe in BK long term.

Beal is excellent guard but we don't nee him. We have Kyrie, Dinwiddie, Caris and Musa coming up for that position.

Hard pass.

Beal was a 26/5/5 player on 58 TS%

you are basically saying that Levert would reach Prime nets vince carter levels by end of next year. absurd expectations.

[ecuhus1981]

Some folks think that I am a Beal hater. I really do like his game, but I am turned off by his subpar D as an established star. He's also not the shot-creator or facilitator that many of his All-Star peers are. He's really good, but I don't see him being worth moving Caris, Spencer and Joe. I agree that LeVert could be a poor-man's version of Bradley but with better D. I'd rather see his development through than pay through the nose to land BB.

I don't even think that our best offer would move the needle for WAS, other teams are lining up better trade packages. So, it's probably a moot point.

[BigRedDog]

Some folks think that I am a Beal hater. I really do like his game, but I am turned off by his subpar D as an established star. He's also not the shot-creator or facilitator that many of his All-Star peers are. He's really good, but I don't see him being worth moving Caris, Spencer and Joe. I agree that LeVert could be a poor-man's version of Bradley but with better D. I'd rather see his development through than pay through the nose to land BB.

I don't even think that our best offer would move the needle for WAS, other teams are lining up better trade packages. So, it's probably a moot point.

Beal made a giant leap last year.. and his defense is world's better than leverts... you do levert for beal all day if you can figure out a way to make salaries match. beal is a much better fit offensively with kyrie than levert too.

dinwiddie makes sense as a guy who can gurd PG's and hide kyrie on defense... but if it takes dinwiddie/levert to get beal you just do it...

[MrDollarBills]

Some folks think that I am a Beal hater. I really do like his game, but I am turned off by his subpar D as an established star. He's also not the shot-creator or facilitator that many of his All-Star peers are. He's really good, but I don't see him being worth moving Caris, Spencer and Joe. I agree that LeVert could be a poor-man's version of Bradley but with better D. I'd rather see his development through than pay through the nose to land BB.

I don't even think that our best offer would move the needle for WAS, other teams are lining up better trade packages. So, it's probably a moot point.

Beal made a giant leap last year.. and his defense is world's better than leverts... you do levert for beal all day if you can figure out a way to make salaries match. beal is a much better fit offensively with kyrie than levert too.

dinwiddie makes sense as a guy who can gurd PG's and hide kyrie on defense... but if it takes dinwiddie/levert to get beal you just do it...

I wouldn't hate the move because it would put us even closer to a championship. I wouldn't write off LeVert being a good fit next to Irving just yet though.

Also, Dinwiddie is not a good defender at all tbh. It's funny really, people would bash D'Angelo Russell's defense when the worst defender on the Nets was far and away Spencer The Nets defensive game plan is to take away the opposing team's three point attempts and force them into taking contested mid range shots so I'm not really concerned about Irving's defense.

[BigRedDog]

Some folks think that I am a Beal hater. I really do like his game, but I am turned off by his subpar D as an established star. He's also not the shot-creator or facilitator that many of his All-Star peers are. He's really good, but I don't see him being worth moving Caris, Spencer and Joe. I agree that LeVert could be a poor-man's version of Bradley but with better D. I'd rather see his development through than pay through the nose to land BB.

I don't even think that our best offer would move the needle for WAS, other teams are lining up better trade packages. So, it's probably a moot point.

Beal made a giant leap last year.. and his defense is world's better than leverts... you do levert for beal all day if you can figure out a way to make salaries match. beal is a much better fit offensively with kyrie than levert too.

dinwiddie makes sense as a guy who can gurd PG's and hide kyrie on defense... but if it takes dinwiddie/levert to get beal you just do it...

I wouldn't hate the move because it would put us even closer to a championship. I wouldn't write off LeVert being a good fit next to Irving just yet though.

Also, Dinwiddie is not a good defender at all tbh. It's funny really, people would bash D'Angelo Russell's defense when the worst defender on the Nets was far and away Spencer The Nets defensive game plan is to take away the opposing team's three point attempts and force them into taking contested mid range shots so I'm not really concerned about Irving's defense.

Yeah im not really sure what happened to dinwiddie last year as he was putrid defensively. Im saying he has the size to guard PG's. ANd he's shown in the past he can defend so hopefully he didnt just quit trying after he got paid

[kamaze]

I wouldn't hate the move because it would put us even closer to a championship. I wouldn't write off LeVert being a good fit next to Irving just yet though.

LeVert is a good player. I want to see what he does with us and Dinwiddie's a good backup they'd be foolish to trade him away sort of like when they let Saun Livingston walk in free agency.

Also, Dinwiddie is not a good defender at all tbh. It's funny really, people would bash D'Angelo Russell's defense when the worst defender on the Nets was far and away Spencer The Nets defensive game plan is to take away the opposing team's three point attempts and force them into taking contested mid range shots so I'm not really concerned about Irving's defense.

I'm not arguing that he is a good defender, but there's a difference in expectations between the the starter and the backup.
The starter sets the tone. if you don't expect him to D up (which it sounds like you don't) why would the backup feel that he needs to exert energy on that end?

You can't say you expect the team to be good if they can't play defense. Scoring is great, if you can add a good defense to the offense that's when the team is special.

[Prokorov]

I wouldn't hate the move because it would put us even closer to a championship. I wouldn't write off LeVert being a good fit next to Irving just yet though.

LeVert is a good player. I want to see what he does with us and Dinwiddie's a good backup they'd be foolish to trade him away sort of like when they let Saun Livingston walk in free agency.

Also, Dinwiddie is not a good defender at all tbh. It's funny really, people would bash D'Angelo Russell's defense when the worst defender on the Nets was far and away Spencer The Nets defensive game plan is to take away the opposing team's three point attempts and force them into taking contested mid range shots so I'm not really concerned about Irving's defense.

I'm not arguing that he is a good defender, but there's a difference in expectations between the the starter and the backup.
The starter sets the tone. if you don't expect him to D up (which it sounds like you don't) why would the backup feel that he needs to exert energy on that end?

You can't say you expect the team to be good if they can't play defense. Scoring is great, if you can add a good defense to the offense that's when the team is special.

when shaun livingston walked we didnt replace hm with a 26 year old all-star. its a completely different siutiation.

last year we had awful defense and were a good team. 6 playoff teams last year were bottom 10 in defense.


shouldnt you be on some russioan basketball board following jeremy lin?

[Prokorov]

Beal made a giant leap last year.. and his defense is world's better than leverts... you do levert for beal all day if you can figure out a way to make salaries match. beal is a much better fit offensively with kyrie than levert too.

dinwiddie makes sense as a guy who can gurd PG's and hide kyrie on defense... but if it takes dinwiddie/levert to get beal you just do it...

I wouldn't hate the move because it would put us even closer to a championship. I wouldn't write off LeVert being a good fit next to Irving just yet though.

Also, Dinwiddie is not a good defender at all tbh. It's funny really, people would bash D'Angelo Russell's defense when the worst defender on the Nets was far and away Spencer The Nets defensive game plan is to take away the opposing team's three point attempts and force them into taking contested mid range shots so I'm not really concerned about Irving's defense.

Yeah im not really sure what happened to dinwiddie last year as he was putrid defensively. Im saying he has the size to guard PG's. ANd he's shown in the past he can defend so hopefully he didnt just quit trying after he got paid

he has been an awful defender since day 1. i dont think it matters though. PG defense in general isnt all that important and this team will win outscoring people or being more efficient over 48 minutes

[MrDollarBills]

I wouldn't hate the move because it would put us even closer to a championship. I wouldn't write off LeVert being a good fit next to Irving just yet though.

LeVert is a good player. I want to see what he does with us and Dinwiddie's a good backup they'd be foolish to trade him away sort of like when they let Saun Livingston walk in free agency.

Also, Dinwiddie is not a good defender at all tbh. It's funny really, people would bash D'Angelo Russell's defense when the worst defender on the Nets was far and away Spencer The Nets defensive game plan is to take away the opposing team's three point attempts and force them into taking contested mid range shots so I'm not really concerned about Irving's defense.

I'm not arguing that he is a good defender, but there's a difference in expectations between the the starter and the backup.
The starter sets the tone. if you don't expect him to D up (which it sounds like you don't) why would the backup feel that he needs to exert energy on that end?

You can't say you expect the team to be good if they can't play defense. Scoring is great, if you can add a good defense to the offense that's when the team is special.

when shaun livingston walked we didnt replace hm with a 26 year old all-star. its a completely different siutiation.

last year we had awful defense and were a good team. 6 playoff teams last year were bottom 10 in defense.


shouldnt you be on some russioan basketball board following jeremy lin?

As long as we focus on limiting wide open threes it really doesn't matter. The Nets manage to get stops defensively when they need to. As always, we need to hit our perimeter shots and move the ball efficiently. However, we also now have Kyrie Irving who can get us buckets when things aren't clicking.

[MrDollarBills]

I wouldn't hate the move because it would put us even closer to a championship. I wouldn't write off LeVert being a good fit next to Irving just yet though.

Also, Dinwiddie is not a good defender at all tbh. It's funny really, people would bash D'Angelo Russell's defense when the worst defender on the Nets was far and away Spencer The Nets defensive game plan is to take away the opposing team's three point attempts and force them into taking contested mid range shots so I'm not really concerned about Irving's defense.

Yeah im not really sure what happened to dinwiddie last year as he was putrid defensively. Im saying he has the size to guard PG's. ANd he's shown in the past he can defend so hopefully he didnt just quit trying after he got paid

he has been an awful defender since day 1. i dont think it matters though. PG defense in general isnt all that important and this team will win outscoring people or being more efficient over 48 minutes

All of our guards are pretty poor defenders as is. Doesn't really matter. Can we protect the defensive glass and cut down on 2nd chance opportunities? That's what really matters.