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CalamityX12 wrote:I remembered Hardens quick hands, glad to see its still there
Paradise wrote:I really do believe Claxton is going to FEAST once he’s healthy.
I’m still sad about the announcement of his return but I think he’ll be starting easily here with the amount of elite passing around these bigs.
Openheimer wrote:Harden with no practice has this kind of understanding with these guys. In a few weeks lord of have mercy
therealbig3 wrote:Yeah, our defense needs work. To be fair though, Vucevic is a monster. He could do this to a good front line too.
Prokorov wrote:Paradise wrote:I really do believe Claxton is going to FEAST once he’s healthy.
I’m still sad about the announcement of his return but I think he’ll be starting easily here with the amount of elite passing around these bigs.
I dont think Claxton is a lock to beat out reggie perry for backup, let alone start.
therealbig3 wrote:Honestly though, and no disrespect to Kyrie, but there's a clear and obvious gap between him and Harden. Harden is just better at...everything.
MGrand15 wrote:KD is just ridiculous man. Makes no sense.
This team is a nightmare to guard.
Hello Brooklyn wrote:I still think you guys are too harsh on Jordan.
There are plenty of bigs who can't really switch out. I've seen Rudy Gobert get played out of playoff series.
There are not many Centers like Vucevic in the league. Its just a bad matchup for him.
When you put him against a traditional Center he will do well like he did vs the Knicks.
Otherwise I think go small and play Green at the 5.
Hello Brooklyn wrote:I still think you guys are too harsh on Jordan.
There are plenty of bigs who can't really switch out. I've seen Rudy Gobert get played out of playoff series.
There are not many Centers like Vucevic in the league. Its just a bad matchup for him.
When you put him against a traditional Center he will do well like he did vs the Knicks.
Otherwise I think go small and play Green at the 5.
SBC, You're the first guy to respond to me when I joined RealGM, totally respectful and you seem like a really cool guy, so I have nothing but respect for you. That said, ordinarily I would agree with every word you posted above, even the idea of trading Kyrie for a dominant BIG like Andre Drummond, if they throw in a young PG like Garland, should be NUTS and LAUGHED AT because Kyrie is on a level with the elite of the elite, but there is nothing ordinary about this. Ordinarily, in any other job in the world, he would have been fired for the stunt that he pulled over the past two weeks. He's only getting away with it because 1) He's Kyrie Irving, one of the best basketball players in the world, and 2) because he's tight with Durant and Harden. Heck, for all we know he orchestrated all of this in the summer, so we stand the risk of losing all three in short order if we trade Kyrie. For those reasons I would NOT do it, but I would be lying if I said I'm not tempted. 1) Because a guy like Drummond can bully Anthony Davis and not the other way around, and 2) because there's no guarantee Kyrie won't pull this stunt again. Even SAS, whose always been extremely complimentary of Kyrie and his game, basically told him to retire if basketball if not a passion and priority for him anymore, and as much as I HATE IT, you can't help but wonder about that now? I mean does he still LOVE BASKETBALL, because he sure as heck hasn't spent the past two weeks acting like a guy who still loves the game, and a BIG like Drummond (27) who dominates the glass and dominates defensively, well, you can argue he's a better fit than Kyrie right now. We have scorers and playmakers out the wazoo; Durant, Harden, Kyrie and Harris, but we have NOTHING like Drummond at the 5, a big, thick bully who can make life miserable for a Davis and/or LeBron if we meet the Lakers in the finals. If they throw in a PG like Garland too, the #5 overall pick in 2020, with Durant, Harden and Harris that's a killer five.StepBackCrack wrote:
Those people who think "Nets should trade Kyrie" after getting Harden don't make much sense to me. Nets would be so dumb to trade a lethal weapon like Kai who proved himself in the playoffs already. It's so easy to find playable centers around the league but Kyrie? lol. I bet they just wish Kyrie ruins everything for the Nets and I don't see that happening considering Kai is excited about playing with KD/Harden. I think Nash could easily get the best out of the three with proper staggering and they are smart players as well so they will make it work with time.
Agreed, but not to compete. We're gonna win on most nights with offense alone. This team, as currently constituted, is an offensive juggernaut. But to win a championship, the ultimate goal, we might need a 5 like Drummond who can play bully ball with cats like Anthony Davis et al. and make their lives a living hell. Who can literally out rebound AD and dominate in the paint. 4x NBA rebounding leader. 6' 10"/279 (beast).MrDollarBills wrote:
Feels good to have three high efficiency scorers that can score at all three levels of the court.
Our offense is unstoppable. We need defense and rebounding to be complete
Rich Rane wrote:I think we're all missing the point here. vc4pres needs to stop watching games.
Whiskey Slick wrote:Agreed, but not to compete. We're gonna win on most nights with offense alone. This team, as currently constituted, is an offensive juggernaut. But to win a championship, the ultimate goal, we might need a 5 like Drummond who can play bully ball with cats like Anthony Davis et al. and make their lives a living hell. Who can literally out rebound AD and dominate in the paint. 4x NBA rebounding leader. 6' 10"/279 (beast).MrDollarBills wrote:
Feels good to have three high efficiency scorers that can score at all three levels of the court.
Our offense is unstoppable. We need defense and rebounding to be complete
MrDollarBills wrote:Whiskey Slick wrote:Agreed, but not to compete. We're gonna win on most nights with offense alone. This team, as currently constituted, is an offensive juggernaut. But to win a championship, the ultimate goal, we might need a 5 like Drummond who can play bully ball with cats like Anthony Davis et al. and make their lives a living hell. Who can literally out rebound AD and dominate in the paint. 4x NBA rebounding leader. 6' 10"/279 (beast).MrDollarBills wrote:
Feels good to have three high efficiency scorers that can score at all three levels of the court.
Our offense is unstoppable. We need defense and rebounding to be complete
I don't know if Drummond is the answer for a guy like AD. Team defense will have to play a factor into slowing him down.
We need to sign Rondae Hollis Jefferson and a big man.
Khashbaatar wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Whiskey Slick wrote:Agreed, but not to compete. We're gonna win on most nights with offense alone. This team, as currently constituted, is an offensive juggernaut. But to win a championship, the ultimate goal, we might need a 5 like Drummond who can play bully ball with cats like Anthony Davis et al. and make their lives a living hell. Who can literally out rebound AD and dominate in the paint. 4x NBA rebounding leader. 6' 10"/279 (beast).
I don't know if Drummond is the answer for a guy like AD. Team defense will have to play a factor into slowing him down.
We need to sign Rondae Hollis Jefferson and a big man.
I love RHJs heart and hustle, but he is not a hooper. He just doesn't understand basketball. There is a reason why Nick Nurse gave up on him, and signed an obscure guy like Yuta Watanabe. RHJ is a good energy guy on a rebuilding team, nothing more, nothing less. I'd rather Shumpert or Garrett Temple over him.
MrDollarBills wrote:Khashbaatar wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
I don't know if Drummond is the answer for a guy like AD. Team defense will have to play a factor into slowing him down.
We need to sign Rondae Hollis Jefferson and a big man.
I love RHJs heart and hustle, but he is not a hooper. He just doesn't understand basketball. There is a reason why Nick Nurse gave up on him, and signed an obscure guy like Yuta Watanabe. RHJ is a good energy guy on a rebuilding team, nothing more, nothing less. I'd rather Shumpert or Garrett Temple over him.
He's a better defender than both Shump or Temple, and it isn't like either one of those two were blowing you away offensively either.
We have enough offensive fire power, need a dirty work guy that can step up against 3s and 4s.
. They think they will make playoffs 
. Send that trash back home, they got their azz busted DP style by both NY teams.
