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Post#101 » by Prokorov » Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:33 pm

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Title teams have carried a lot more dead weight in the past than Aldridge as the 15th man, a 7 footer who has playoff experience, is about 40% from 3 and can get his own bucket is not worthless.

I doubt we need to worry about this though since I don't think the Nets are in the running, he has more to offer other teams and Marks has bigger plans with the tools at his disposal.

he isnt worthless as a 15th man. like i said, if we want him, cut blake. but we already have a corpse there


Team will only play about 8 guys in the playoffs anyway, the rest of the roster are cheerleaders/injury insurance. Sorry but I just can't agree Blake and LaMarcus having no place on the roster when as soon as a week ago guys like TLC and Roberson were getting minutes.

I'm a skeptic of how much Blake has left but would lol if he started off tomorrow with a dunk.


TLC only plays if Kyrie is out. he isnt in the rotation.

Kyrie, KD, Harden, Harris, DJ
TJ, Shamet, Brown, Green, Claxton

Thats your 10 guys getting playoff minutes.

TLC, Roberson, Blake, Chiozza, Shumpert. you need to dump 1 of those 5 to add Aldridge.

TLC has a role. he provides catch and shoot if harris or shamet went down.

Chiozza has a role. we dont have a bench ball handler if TJ got hurt. thats minor but its stil a role

Shamet/Roberson are your defensive specialists. even if its one possesion, you want 2 tenacious defenders situationally if it was 1 possesion at the end of a playoff game. they are insurance for eachother

Which leaves blake. its blake or aldridge, not both. Aldridge provides nothing we dont already get from green or blake.
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Post#102 » by sashaturiaf » Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:40 pm

Kyrie, KD, Harden, Harris, DJ, TJ, Shamet, Brown, Green, Claxton, Blake. That's 11 guys who are core players and won't be cut

TLC, Roberson, Shump and Chiozza are all highly replaceable and ideally with those 4 roster spots you have 1 big, 2 wings and a point/ballhandler. I doubt it will be Aldridge but it's a certainty Marks isn't done and there will be movements in those last few roster spots.
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Re: All kinds of rumors about Drummond 

Post#103 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:53 pm

sashaturiaf wrote:Kyrie, KD, Harden, Harris, DJ, TJ, Shamet, Brown, Green, Claxton, Blake. That's 11 guys who are core players and won't be cut

TLC, Roberson, Shump and Chiozza are all highly replaceable and ideally with those 4 roster spots you have 1 big, 2 wings and a point/ballhandler. I doubt it will be Aldridge but it's a certainty Marks isn't done and there will be movements in those last few roster spots.


I would not cut Chiozza because you want to have another ball handler available just in case, but the other three are definitely expendable.
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Re: All kinds of rumors about Drummond 

Post#104 » by HardenGoat » Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:57 pm

I see JJ Reddick on the buyout market coming here, we will cut Shump. Either Aldridge or Drummond coming, plus a wing player which could be a big move using second round picks and Dinwiddies contract and a filler - Aaron Gordon :rock:
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Post#105 » by Whiskey Slick » Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:02 am

If Drummond is choosing the Lakers if he gets bought out, as is being reported, I'm not surprised. With the emergence of Claxton as a real force with the Nets, and following a long rebab from a torn labrum surgery, his career is basically just getting started so he's just scratching the surface of his peak.

That said, Drummond just went thru almost the exact same thing in Cleveland where he was phased out for Allen, plus Jordan has been playing fairly well for us at Center too. Meantime the Lakers BIG's are a mess.

So there's no doubt in his mind that the Lakers need him more and he'll definitely get more minutes. He still believes he can be a starting Center in this league, and a good one, all he needs is the minutes to prove it.

That may or may not be true, but he believes it, therefore the Lakers are a no brainer.

Honestly we're probably watching the Guards and Wings who get bought out more than the BIG's.

I think Griffin ended our search for another veteran BIG.
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Post#106 » by sashaturiaf » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:19 am

I don't think we have a shot at Drummond. He wants a starting role and LeBron / Davis will be promising him the world even if nets can offer more money.

With Claxton cemented in the rotation now. KD and Kyrie aren't gonna be recruiting Drummond by saying anything he wants to hear when DJ is their guy.

Fine by me, Drummond won't make this team drastically better. It's more a depth signing more than anything.
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Post#107 » by Whiskey Slick » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:06 pm

sashaturiaf wrote:I don't think we have a shot at Drummond. He wants a starting role and LeBron / Davis will be promising him the world even if nets can offer more money.

With Claxton cemented in the rotation now. KD and Kyrie aren't gonna be recruiting Drummond by saying anything he wants to hear when DJ is their guy.

Fine by me, Drummond won't make this team drastically better.

It's more a depth signing more than anything.

And that's the reason he's reportedly choosing the Lakers even though we can pay him more money.

You nailed it.
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Post#108 » by Kiddlovesnets » Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:29 pm

sashaturiaf wrote:With Claxton cemented in the rotation now. KD and Kyrie aren't gonna be recruiting Drummond by saying anything he wants to hear when DJ is their guy.


We missed out on Ibaka who would be a perfect fit for this team during last off-season because of DJ, and now we may be losing out on Drummond also because of DJ. I really want us to win the title in the next 1-2 years since we've traded the draft picks till 2027, but my hope fades each time I see DJ in the rosters with the amount of money he makes and the number of minutes he has to play to be happy.
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Post#109 » by MGrand15 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:39 pm

Drummond's an elite rebounder but he's gonna have to prove me wrong. I think the dude is just not good. A lot of people are kindof ignoring his time in Cleveland + Detroit and saying he just didn't have any talent or playmakers around him. I mean just look at what Jarrett Allen is doing with the same team. Drummond hasn't been an efficient scorer since his 2nd year. That's his own doing. That's absurd for someone with his skill set.

His defense isn't good. Embiid punks him on and off the court so it's not like he can help us there.

I'm sure he could help. Our team makes it so easy for centers but I wouldn't take him at C over DJ, Claxton, or Green.
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Post#110 » by Kiddlovesnets » Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:54 pm

Drummond could be a killer move for the Lakers. If we dont get him and he goes to the Lakers, I cant see us beating them in a 7 games series. I hope he chooses the Clippers or the Heat incase we cant sign him.
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Re: All kinds of rumors about Drummond 

Post#111 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:38 pm

Kiddlovesnets wrote:Drummond could be a killer move for the Lakers. If we dont get him and he goes to the Lakers, I cant see us beating them in a 7 games series. I hope he chooses the Clippers or the Heat incase we cant sign him.


If the Lakers sign drummond, i dont think they would make it to 6 games against us.

Drummond will make them worse, not better.
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Re: All kinds of rumors about Drummond 

Post#112 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:39 pm

MGrand15 wrote:Drummond's an elite rebounder but he's gonna have to prove me wrong. I think the dude is just not good. A lot of people are kindof ignoring his time in Cleveland + Detroit and saying he just didn't have any talent or playmakers around him. I mean just look at what Jarrett Allen is doing with the same team. Drummond hasn't been an efficient scorer since his 2nd year. That's his own doing. That's absurd for someone with his skill set.

His defense isn't good. Embiid punks him on and off the court so it's not like he can help us there.

I'm sure he could help. Our team makes it so easy for centers but I wouldn't take him at C over DJ, Claxton, or Green.


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Post#113 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:41 pm

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sashaturiaf wrote:With Claxton cemented in the rotation now. KD and Kyrie aren't gonna be recruiting Drummond by saying anything he wants to hear when DJ is their guy.


We missed out on Ibaka who would be a perfect fit for this team during last off-season because of DJ, and now we may be losing out on Drummond also because of DJ. I really want us to win the title in the next 1-2 years since we've traded the draft picks till 2027, but my hope fades each time I see DJ in the rosters with the amount of money he makes and the number of minutes he has to play to be happy.


DJ is roughly eleventy-billion times better then drummond where it counts (D, scoring without touches).

Ibaka has been low key awful this year and looks washed up and is likely closer to 35 then the 32 he is listed at. Ibaka didnt do much against us or outplay Jordan in our matchups with then. They couldnt even keep Inbaka on the floor we were gashing them inside so bad
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Re: All kinds of rumors about Drummond 

Post#114 » by Kiddlovesnets » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:33 pm

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DJ is roughly eleventy-billion times better then drummond where it counts (D, scoring without touches).

Ibaka has been low key awful this year and looks washed up and is likely closer to 35 then the 32 he is listed at. Ibaka didnt do much against us or outplay Jordan in our matchups with then. They couldnt even keep Inbaka on the floor we were gashing them inside so bad


Well okay if you insist on DJ being better than Drummond. We are both nets fans and we all want the team to flourish, though I still fail to see what DJ does better than Drummond at all. DJ doesnt even give effort, and this is toxic for the team 'cause its too easy for other players to stop giving efforts when one player aint doing it.
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Post#115 » by Prokorov » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:36 pm

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DJ is roughly eleventy-billion times better then drummond where it counts (D, scoring without touches).

Ibaka has been low key awful this year and looks washed up and is likely closer to 35 then the 32 he is listed at. Ibaka didnt do much against us or outplay Jordan in our matchups with then. They couldnt even keep Inbaka on the floor we were gashing them inside so bad


Well okay if you insist on DJ being better than Drummond. We are both nets fans and we all want the team to flourish, though I still fail to see what DJ does better than Drummond at all. DJ doesnt even give effort, and this is toxic for the team 'cause its too easy for other players to stop giving efforts when one player aint doing it.


Drummond is like a first ballot hall of famer when it comes to lack of effort. from uconn through cleveland. DJ has lapses for sure, but drummond is way worse

As far as what DJ does better:
-Screen
-Roll/finish lobs
-Defend the rim/block shots as a help defender
-switch on the perimeter (he isnt great but better then drummond)
-Avoid taking awful shots and forcing offense

Drummond rebounds better is a touch better man to man post D (in a league where no one posts up) and scores is ISO better (when he has no business taking ISO shots, espcially if he were here).

And Drummond routinely has been abused by EMbiid, who not only dominates him but then evicerates him on twitter to rub it in.

no thank you.
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Post#116 » by Sharcm1 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:59 am

For me getting Drummond is all about keeping him from going to the Lakers, He would be a real asset to the Lakers. Drummond is also an upgrade from DJ.
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Post#117 » by Whiskey Slick » Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:08 am

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For me getting Drummond is all about keeping him from going to the Lakers, He would be a real asset to the Lakers. Drummond is also an upgrade from DJ.


It's smart to be thinking ahead this way. People can knock his game and talk about the things he can't do well instead of the things he can do well, but there's no doubt they would be easier for the Nets to beat in the finals, IF WE GET THERE, should LBJ and/or AD still not be be to 100%. At worse he's an insurance policy I'd rather not see them acquire, or any of the east contenders for that matter as well. If it means we pick him up, so be it.
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Post#118 » by Prokorov » Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:05 pm

Sharcm1 wrote:For me getting Drummond is all about keeping him from going to the Lakers, He would be a real asset to the Lakers. Drummond is also an upgrade from DJ.


I think drummond makes the lakers worse. and like, substantially worse. adding low IQ play to a high IQ team, making their interior D at the 5 worse then it already is and potentially poouting if he doesnt get high usage.
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Post#119 » by Sharcm1 » Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:29 pm

I think looking at the Lakers roster as a whole they can actually use a player like Drummond. They could use his offense. I think him going to the Lakers would make them harder to beat than they already are. And he would help keep them afloat without Davis. Just my opinion. Anyway no other big man option right now as Magee just got traded to Denver. We might not need Drummond. But when Irving is MIA and Durant hurt it would be nice to have another player that can take some of the offensive load off harden so we don’t have a repeat of last night. And as much as you want to hate on Drummond he can score and he can rebound. And that’s something our front court player can’t do well. And I wouldn’t mind someone taking mins from DJ. I’m tired of watching him stand there on defense and stand there and watch rebounds go to the other team. He has a seriously lack of hustle and it pisses me off. He is capable of moving his feet and capable of athletic plays so he just doesn’t try.
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Post#120 » by Prokorov » Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:32 pm

Sharcm1 wrote:I think looking at the Lakers roster as a whole they can actually use a player like Drummond. They could use his offense. I think him going to the Lakers would make them harder to beat than they already are. And he would help keep them afloat without Davis. Just my opinion. Anyway no other big man option right now as Magee just got traded to Denver. We might not need Drummond. But when Irving is MIA and Durant hurt it would be nice to have another player that can take some of the offensive load off harden so we don’t have a repeat of last night. And as much as you want to hate on Drummond he can score and he can rebound. And that’s something our front court player can’t do well. And I wouldn’t mind someone taking mins from DJ. I’m tired of watching him stand there on defense and stand there and watch rebounds go to the other team. He has a seriously lack of hustle and it pisses me off. He is capable of moving his feet and capable of athletic plays so he just doesn’t try.


Playing Drummond over DJ, Claxton, or Green is probably a negative offensively. He is probably a better option the blake although blake provides some green small ball 5 insurance.

I just dont see how drummond helps a contender. he is almost certainly a negative when it comes to playoff basketball

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