Re: All kinds of rumors about Drummond
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:41 pm
Denver gave up 2 SRP and a young player in Hartenstein for McGee. That's a lot actually considering McGee wasn't really used last year in playoffs.
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Prokorov wrote:Playing Drummond over DJ, Claxton, or Green is probably a negative offensively. He is probably a better option the blake although blake provides some green small ball 5 insurance.
I just dont see how drummond helps a contender. he is almost certainly a negative when it comes to playoff basketball
Kiddlovesnets wrote:Prokorov wrote:Playing Drummond over DJ, Claxton, or Green is probably a negative offensively. He is probably a better option the blake although blake provides some green small ball 5 insurance.
I just dont see how drummond helps a contender. he is almost certainly a negative when it comes to playoff basketball
I still dont get why you like DJ so much, hes been one of the worst starting centers in the league and the worse part is that he doesnt even give effort which can be infectious. Do you expect him to magically turn it on coming into playoffs? And do you expect Claxton and Green to guard Giannis and Embiid?
Whiskey Slick wrote:Drummond signs with the Lakers.
So that's the end of that saga. We get Aldridge and Griffin (and Alzie ), and the Lakers gets Drummond.
Kiddlovesnets wrote:Whiskey Slick wrote:Drummond signs with the Lakers.
So that's the end of that saga. We get Aldridge and Griffin (and Alzie ), and the Lakers gets Drummond.
Drummond > Aldridge + Griffin + Aliza Johnson, the Lakers are heavy favorites to win and we will have an uphill road ahead. sigh.
Prokorov wrote:
Drummond is a marginal add for the lakers. Aldridge/Blake were marginal adds for the nets. none of those guys tips the scale. If the lakers were the favorite to beat us, its not because of adding drummond. and it certainly isnt because we chose not to add drummond. Drummond is a pretty poor fit for this team.
IWe have more top end talent then them. Ill take KD/Lebron as a wash and Give me Harden over AD 101 times out of 100. That leaves Kyrie and who.... schroeder?
We have 100 times more depth then them and we are better then them at every positions. we have more shooting as well.
Kiddlovesnets wrote:Prokorov wrote:
Drummond is a marginal add for the lakers. Aldridge/Blake were marginal adds for the nets. none of those guys tips the scale. If the lakers were the favorite to beat us, its not because of adding drummond. and it certainly isnt because we chose not to add drummond. Drummond is a pretty poor fit for this team.
IWe have more top end talent then them. Ill take KD/Lebron as a wash and Give me Harden over AD 101 times out of 100. That leaves Kyrie and who.... schroeder?
We have 100 times more depth then them and we are better then them at every positions. we have more shooting as well.
He could've been a marginal addition for us, but for Lakers hes makes them a superteam. Lakers now have a big three with 2 of them in their prime, and Lebron is older but healthier than KD. I still wanted the team to go hard for Drummond even if we aint needing him as much, 'cause its pretty much over if he joins the Lakers. We will now need an AD season-ending injury to stand a chance against the Lakers in the finals, though I am not such a person to wish for injuries on any players(dont think this will happen anyway since Lakers are very cautious and protective for AD's recovery). Fortunately, Drummond will likely not to stay with them next year, so we can still use this year's playoffs as experience and lesson to prepare better for a title run next year.
Kiddlovesnets wrote:Prokorov wrote:
Drummond is a marginal add for the lakers. Aldridge/Blake were marginal adds for the nets. none of those guys tips the scale. If the lakers were the favorite to beat us, its not because of adding drummond. and it certainly isnt because we chose not to add drummond. Drummond is a pretty poor fit for this team.
IWe have more top end talent then them. Ill take KD/Lebron as a wash and Give me Harden over AD 101 times out of 100. That leaves Kyrie and who.... schroeder?
We have 100 times more depth then them and we are better then them at every positions. we have more shooting as well.
He could've been a marginal addition for us, but for Lakers hes makes them a superteam. Lakers now have a big three with 2 of them in their prime, and Lebron is older but healthier than KD. I still wanted the team to go hard for Drummond even if we aint needing him as much, 'cause its pretty much over if he joins the Lakers. We will now need an AD season-ending injury to stand a chance against the Lakers in the finals, though I am not such a person to wish for injuries on any players(dont think this will happen anyway since Lakers are very cautious and protective for AD's recovery). Fortunately, Drummond will likely not to stay with them next year, so we can still use this year's playoffs as experience and lesson to prepare better for a title run next year.
therealbig3 wrote:Griffin and Aldridge are both better than Drummond...I was on board with Drummond before, but the more you look at his numbers, the emptier they are.
Dwight is a legitimately good C, and he barely saw the court in like half of the Lakers playoff run. Drummond is a million times worse than Dwight, and I’m pretty sure he’d be unplayable against us.
Their starting lineup once LeBron and AD come back is gonna be:
Schroeder-KCP-LeBron-AD-Drummond. That’s like, all time bad floor spacing for a championship-level team, especially nowadays. They have one actually good shooter (KCP), two above average shooters but nothing that’s scaring a defense all that much (LeBron and AD), and then two guys that actively hurt floor spacing (Schroeder and Drummond). And a two big lineup with AD-Drummond just looks and sounds awful.
If the Lakers have to give Drummond meaningful minutes in the playoffs, then it means something went horribly wrong. He’s got to prove me wrong in a major way.
Kiddlovesnets wrote:therealbig3 wrote:Griffin and Aldridge are both better than Drummond...I was on board with Drummond before, but the more you look at his numbers, the emptier they are.
Dwight is a legitimately good C, and he barely saw the court in like half of the Lakers playoff run. Drummond is a million times worse than Dwight, and I’m pretty sure he’d be unplayable against us.
Their starting lineup once LeBron and AD come back is gonna be:
Schroeder-KCP-LeBron-AD-Drummond. That’s like, all time bad floor spacing for a championship-level team, especially nowadays. They have one actually good shooter (KCP), two above average shooters but nothing that’s scaring a defense all that much (LeBron and AD), and then two guys that actively hurt floor spacing (Schroeder and Drummond). And a two big lineup with AD-Drummond just looks and sounds awful.
If the Lakers have to give Drummond meaningful minutes in the playoffs, then it means something went horribly wrong. He’s got to prove me wrong in a major way.
Drummond is better than Griffin and Aldridge combined, given that they are all utilized in the right way. Id agree that for us, its hard to utilize Drummond properly so he would not provide much value to us, but him on the Lakers can be a very different story. If Lebron and Vogel manage to convince him into accepting a role as a rebounding machine and defensive anchor, then he can be a rich man's version of Gobert. Problem is he always wants to get more touches on the offensive end and his defensive effort aint always there, but coming into playoffs a focused Drummond is terrifying. We better hope Drummond gets upset at Lebron for stealing rebounds from him.
Kiddlovesnets wrote:therealbig3 wrote:Griffin and Aldridge are both better than Drummond...I was on board with Drummond before, but the more you look at his numbers, the emptier they are.
Dwight is a legitimately good C, and he barely saw the court in like half of the Lakers playoff run. Drummond is a million times worse than Dwight, and I’m pretty sure he’d be unplayable against us.
Their starting lineup once LeBron and AD come back is gonna be:
Schroeder-KCP-LeBron-AD-Drummond. That’s like, all time bad floor spacing for a championship-level team, especially nowadays. They have one actually good shooter (KCP), two above average shooters but nothing that’s scaring a defense all that much (LeBron and AD), and then two guys that actively hurt floor spacing (Schroeder and Drummond). And a two big lineup with AD-Drummond just looks and sounds awful.
If the Lakers have to give Drummond meaningful minutes in the playoffs, then it means something went horribly wrong. He’s got to prove me wrong in a major way.
Drummond is better than Griffin and Aldridge combined, given that they are all utilized in the right way. Id agree that for us, its hard to utilize Drummond properly so he would not provide much value to us, but him on the Lakers can be a very different story. If Lebron and Vogel manage to convince him into accepting a role as a rebounding machine and defensive anchor, then he can be a rich man's version of Gobert. Problem is he always wants to get more touches on the offensive end and his defensive effort aint always there, but coming into playoffs a focused Drummond is terrifying. We better hope Drummond gets upset at Lebron for stealing rebounds from him.
Prokorov wrote:Kiddlovesnets wrote:therealbig3 wrote:Griffin and Aldridge are both better than Drummond...I was on board with Drummond before, but the more you look at his numbers, the emptier they are.
Dwight is a legitimately good C, and he barely saw the court in like half of the Lakers playoff run. Drummond is a million times worse than Dwight, and I’m pretty sure he’d be unplayable against us.
Their starting lineup once LeBron and AD come back is gonna be:
Schroeder-KCP-LeBron-AD-Drummond. That’s like, all time bad floor spacing for a championship-level team, especially nowadays. They have one actually good shooter (KCP), two above average shooters but nothing that’s scaring a defense all that much (LeBron and AD), and then two guys that actively hurt floor spacing (Schroeder and Drummond). And a two big lineup with AD-Drummond just looks and sounds awful.
If the Lakers have to give Drummond meaningful minutes in the playoffs, then it means something went horribly wrong. He’s got to prove me wrong in a major way.
Drummond is better than Griffin and Aldridge combined, given that they are all utilized in the right way. Id agree that for us, its hard to utilize Drummond properly so he would not provide much value to us, but him on the Lakers can be a very different story. If Lebron and Vogel manage to convince him into accepting a role as a rebounding machine and defensive anchor, then he can be a rich man's version of Gobert. Problem is he always wants to get more touches on the offensive end and his defensive effort aint always there, but coming into playoffs a focused Drummond is terrifying. We better hope Drummond gets upset at Lebron for stealing rebounds from him.
You cant convince a poor defender to be a defensive anchor... just like you cant convince an awful shooter to be a good one. Drummond will become unplayable in the playoffs vs good teams, and especially vs us. there isnt a single player on our team he can defend on a switch. and he makes a team that already lacks floor spacers even easier to pack it in on.
and he is a super low iq player who takes awful shots and turns it over a bunch.
there is nothing terrifying about drummond. there is a reason he could only fetch a 2nd rounder last year and they couldnt trade him for anything this year. dude is a straight up negative
MrDollarBills wrote: Imagine them trying to play Drummond if we roll out the Harden/Irving/Harris/Green/Durant line up. Go for it, we'll be up by 25 within 4 minutes.
Kiddlovesnets wrote:MrDollarBills wrote: Imagine them trying to play Drummond if we roll out the Harden/Irving/Harris/Green/Durant line up. Go for it, we'll be up by 25 within 4 minutes.
You seriously think so? Whos gonna get a board for us in this lineup against Lakers with Drummond? We will get killed on the glass, and Lakers will grab offensive rebounds for more than 50% of the shots they miss.
Kiddlovesnets wrote:MrDollarBills wrote: Imagine them trying to play Drummond if we roll out the Harden/Irving/Harris/Green/Durant line up. Go for it, we'll be up by 25 within 4 minutes.
You seriously think so? Whos gonna get a board for us in this lineup against Lakers with Drummond? We will get killed on the glass, and Lakers will grab offensive rebounds for more than 50% of the shots they miss.