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Steve Nash is not fit to coach in the NBA

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:49 am
by Prokorov
There is no shame to losing to the bucks with no irving and no harden.

But he is easily one of, if not the worst coach in team history and has no business coaching in the NBA.

ZERO ADJUSTMENTS. 0. z-e-r-o

it is infuriating. huge 10-0 runs by the bucks, no timeouts, no lineup changes, no adjustments. just dump to KD in the high post with tucker all over him and go 1 on 5.

With Kyrie out, how about... i dont know putting brook lopez in a pick and roll?

PJ tucker is playing stuck to KD the entire length of the floor. maybe do something to shake him:

-Use KD to be the screener. to force a switch or to give his teammate and open lane to the hoop
-use a staggered double screen
-Screen for KD off ball in the back court

they hit 100 threes in the corner. maybe stop helping off that?

The lineup you had in gave upa 19-2 run. maybe bring in some new blood, even if just for energy. TJ/Shamet/Alize/Claxton any of those guys?

maybe run some plays for joe harris to get an open look?

Maybe run a switch for blake and let him run our offfense out of the post for a few possesions?

F steve nash.

Re: Steve Nash is not fit to coach in the NBA

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:34 am
by CalamityX12
Seriously, the lack of changes for the sake of trying something else is infuriating to watch. This is the playoffs! Win or prepare for next season.

He runs his lineups to the ground constantly.. the aftermath is showing... the effects are hurting us.

We clearly need more of x y n z yet he doesn't use them off the bench. Even when we're our Harden n Irving, Nash makes idiotic lineups out there.

Like Jeff Green shouldn't even played and showed he couldn't so soon yet Nash left him out there to dry. Embarrassing.

Re: Steve Nash is not fit to coach in the NBA

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:42 am
by Prokorov
Even prior to KD going down it was gross.

Coming off an 83 point effort, and 2 days off you would think Nash would have drew a few things up to take advantage of PJ playing so tight on durant and being so physical.

Instead it was just the same baseline post up after baseline post up after baseline post up.

I mean, it was pretty clear just from the ONE time we did it, which may not of even been drawn up, that using KD as a screener with PJ that tight to him was going to force a switch. Which it did, the 1 time we saw it.

They could have used KD as a screener and either got an open lane/look for the ball handler or forced a switch then Posted KD at the elbow/top of the key with someone other then PJ on him.

No staggered double screen is just a disgrace. if someoen is going to play in your chest, physics wont allow them to get through a double screen.

its just pathetic. people keep saying nonsense like "we had no chance to win once kyrie went down"... which doesnt somehow make it ok to spend 3 quarters being an awful coach. we could have used that time to make adjustments and see what might work going into game 5... instead of being like "oh well, ill take the L no need to try anything"

Re: Steve Nash is not fit to coach in the NBA

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:48 am
by CalamityX12
Like Caris Levert, they're forcing KD into the role that only works for one man. That is James Harden.

Gotta get the shooters involved, even if they miss, shooters gotta shoot.

Re: Steve Nash is not fit to coach in the NBA

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:57 am
by Prokorov
The worst part is, he is back next year, cause they will use injuries as an excuse.

So we have no shot to win next year either

Re: Steve Nash is not fit to coach in the NBA

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:00 am
by CalamityX12
Prokorov wrote:The worst part is, he is back next year, cause they will use injuries as an excuse.

So we have no shot to win next year either

Nash hasn't warranted a 2nd chance...

I honestly believe if we go out, there's a legit chance he gets tossed and we go with MDA.

Re: Steve Nash is not fit to coach in the NBA

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:03 am
by Shark
CalamityX12 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:The worst part is, he is back next year, cause they will use injuries as an excuse.

So we have no shot to win next year either

Nash hasn't warranted a 2nd chance...

I honestly believe if we go out, there's a legit chance he gets tossed and we go with MDA.

I'd rather he head off to Portland. I can't pretend to know how the dynamic between Nash and MDA works, but it doesn't seem like MDA is really contributing much to the coaching braintrust. And if you think about how he's flamed out of the playoffs with a number of talented teams it doesn't really inspire much confidence. You could make an argument that he may have been subject ot some unfortunate situations (the A'mare situation v. the Lakers, CP3 injury in Houston), but you could say that it shows that its just as unlikely he'd really be able to make any adjustments if the going gets tough.

Re: Steve Nash is not fit to coach in the NBA

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:56 am
by therealbig3
Nah, he’s actually one of the better coaches in the league if we’re honest with ourselves. This season was extremely impressive in terms of what he was able to accomplish.

Re: Steve Nash is not fit to coach in the NBA

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:26 am
by MrDollarBills
Nash's biggest problem is that he's too slow to react and adjust. Having KD dribble the ball up 94 feet just to take a tough contested shot was stupid.

Whatever. We're done.

Re: Steve Nash is not fit to coach in the NBA

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:29 pm
by Prokorov
therealbig3 wrote:Nah, he’s actually one of the better coaches in the league if we’re honest with ourselves. This season was extremely impressive in terms of what he was able to accomplish.


Impressive in what way? being a spectator while a group of stars carry your sorry arse to the playoffs? Then crap away the 1-seed while consistently losing to some of the worst teams in the league, like the pistons twice?

Like is beating the pacers with "only" Harden + Kyrie some Auerbach/Popovich/chuck Daly-esque coaching feat?

Any time Nash was called on to actually do some coaching, he failed miserably. Even when we drastically out matched our opponents. I guess you can credit him for managing egos off the court, but thats really a manager, not a coach.

0 adjustments in the boston series. he let them do the same things that hurt us all series. Just let tatum switch on to midgets and abuse them. Luckily it was our big 3 with them missing 3 starters or that probably goes 7 also.

This series has been a horrific coaching failure. 4 games, 0 adjustments. several blunder the end of game 3 that cost us that game. 0 adjustments game 4... did nothing to probe the second half of game 4 to try and uncover cover things he might be able to carry over to game 5.

"we just have Kyrie and their focusing on him, i guess series over".... thats not something you would ever hear a good coach say. Take a look at what Spoelstra did in the finals with no Bam and a hobbled Dragic.

Again, im not saying coach us to a win in game 4, but there are things you can do as a coach to maximize your chances in game 4 and to help you find things you can do to help win game 5.

Re: Steve Nash is not fit to coach in the NBA

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:29 pm
by Prokorov
MrDollarBills wrote:Nash's biggest problem is that he's too slow to react and adjust. Having KD dribble the ball up 94 feet just to take a tough contested shot was stupid.

Whatever. We're done.


He isnt slow to adjust, he doesnt adjust. its just rah-rah during the game and then blaming the players after the game.

Re: Steve Nash is not fit to coach in the NBA

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:09 pm
by CalamityX12
The opportunity was there for Nash to come out n show promise as a coach. He was awful...

What he did, no one playing nba2k would even do...

Re: Steve Nash is not fit to coach in the NBA

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:42 pm
by Karate Diop
I've always seen him as an average coach... Don't really love or hate him. There are areas of improvement for sure, but the team seems to like him.

Re: Steve Nash is not fit to coach in the NBA

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:03 pm
by MGrand15
Honestly just look at KD's field goal attempts and his shot chart. We 100% made adjustments. We attacked Brook, we used KD as a screener, we had him come off screens. Milwaukee was fouling him consistently. Messed up all our actions and never let him get anything clean. And our roleplayers were not taking advantage of the attention he drew - so he started forcing it.

Re: Steve Nash is not fit to coach in the NBA

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:15 pm
by HardenGoat
He did a good job meshing the stars and holding the ship with so many obstacles. However, he is showing he is a rookie coach and is learning. He lacks offensive play calling which is displayed after timeouts and inbound passes that end in empty possessions. When you are down 2 primary star ball handlers things are not going to be run the same. Dantoni has left his offensive imprint but that is run through Harden who has been out forever. I think Kyrie and KD are scorers to a fault in a centric way. They were the ones who originally wanted a coach like Nash who is player friendly first and can feed their egos. By default this is the type of personality you get on the sideline. They did not want a Thibbs or a Pop or even a Kerr who runs tons of plays. Hard to put the blame on one person here. I already knew the path to the chip is with Harden, he has to come back. He just needs Durant as a scorer and relief valve and this series will be over, Kyrie can get his rest and help sweep the 76ers.

Re: Steve Nash is not fit to coach in the NBA

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:34 pm
by Prokorov
MGrand15 wrote:Honestly just look at KD's field goal attempts and his shot chart. We 100% made adjustments. We attacked Brook, we used KD as a screener, we had him come off screens. Milwaukee was fouling him consistently. Messed up all our actions and never let him get anything clean. And our roleplayers were not taking advantage of the attention he drew - so he started forcing it.


We did none of those things. it was mid baseline post, pint down high wing screen with 1 screener, or KD bring it up and chuck.

Re: Steve Nash is not fit to coach in the NBA

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:48 pm
by Curmudgeon
Maybe not, but the Nets apparently had no problem letting D'Antoni interview in Portland while the Nets are still alive in the playoffs.

Re: Steve Nash is not fit to coach in the NBA

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:00 pm
by Prokorov
Curmudgeon wrote:Maybe not, but the Nets apparently had no problem letting D'Antoni interview in Portland while the Nets are still alive in the playoffs.


D'antoni is part of the problem, not the solution.

roll a ball out with 5 shooters and take a nap.

Re: Steve Nash is not fit to coach in the NBA

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:00 pm
by MGrand15
Prokorov wrote:
MGrand15 wrote:Honestly just look at KD's field goal attempts and his shot chart. We 100% made adjustments. We attacked Brook, we used KD as a screener, we had him come off screens. Milwaukee was fouling him consistently. Messed up all our actions and never let him get anything clean. And our roleplayers were not taking advantage of the attention he drew - so he started forcing it.


We did none of those things. it was mid baseline post, pint down high wing screen with 1 screener, or KD bring it up and chuck.


Look at the attempts. It proves you wrong.

Anyway, you've been on this all year. You were quiet when Nash coached the pants off of Bud the 1st 2 games. You've been quiet about the job the coaches are doing with the defense.

Our team was shellshocked after Kyrie went down and the refs let Milwaukee foul all game. Let's see how we play tomorrow.

Re: Steve Nash is not fit to coach in the NBA

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:06 pm
by Prokorov
MGrand15 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
MGrand15 wrote:Honestly just look at KD's field goal attempts and his shot chart. We 100% made adjustments. We attacked Brook, we used KD as a screener, we had him come off screens. Milwaukee was fouling him consistently. Messed up all our actions and never let him get anything clean. And our roleplayers were not taking advantage of the attention he drew - so he started forcing it.


We did none of those things. it was mid baseline post, pint down high wing screen with 1 screener, or KD bring it up and chuck.


Look at the attempts. It proves you wrong.

Anyway, you've been on this all year. You were quiet when Nash coached the pants off of Bud the 1st 2 games. You've been quiet about the job the coaches are doing with the defense.

Our team was shellshocked after Kyrie went down and the refs let Milwaukee foul all game. Let's see how we play tomorrow.


Shot charts say nothing about who screens who, who runs where, who touched the ball in the possesion, who was on the floor....

it is completely useless.

you could watch the video and see very easily, he made none of those adjustments