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Korver is a good dude so welcome aboard

MrDollarBills wrote:Korver is a good dude so welcome aboard

Joe Harris is getting roasted on Twitter lol

This is definitely a signing intended for Joe...

I like this hire! I know people are gonna focus on Joe but I think other players on the roster can benefit from learning from a great shooter like Korver.

I'm mainly thinking Bruce Brown, the rookies(Cam and Sharpe) and even Claxton (mainly for FTs) can all develop their shot/3 ball more. Hopefully Korver can make the transition to coach and be a good teacher. (It's been hinted that he helped LeBron with his shooting while in Cleveland)

JoseRizal wrote:This is definitely a signing intended for Joe...

He should help him with his freethrows, although Nash might be even more of an expert.

Paradise wrote:

MrDollarBills wrote:Korver is a good dude so welcome aboard

Joe Harris is getting roasted on Twitter lol

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I feel bad for Joe but he let the team down. It's on him to make it right.

I feel bad for Joe but he let the team down. It's on him to make it right.

Foof... You know, it's getting tiresome seeing this lazy hogwash from fans, even after they've had plenty of time now to dial back the nonsense and embrace reality.

Joe let nobody down. He played as hard as he could (as usual), and went along with the team's orders to consistently play him an extra 5-6min all playoffs long.

As could be expected, his shot efficiency began to fall after too many minutes. And knowing him, I would imagine he also compounded things by trying to play even harder. Unfortunately, as many have learned across sports & life, sometimes 'pressing' can in fact backfire. Methinks there might also be a bit of "overachievers syndrome" and "imposters syndrome" involved as well. I wouldn't be surprised, anyway.

If there's two things that I hope change, it's 1) that Joe does a better job of recognising when he's beat, and verbally resists the idea of 'just play though it,' ala the syndromes above, and 2) that Nash understands that the guy is best-suited to average about 31mpg.

Korver will probably help to some degree, although IMO Joe's already the 2nd-best shooter in the league (behind Chef), so I would think the former two things will be much more important than anything Kyle can tell him. Much more likely to me is that Korver has a stronger impact upon the weaker 3pt shooters on the team, not the better ones.

For example, if a team led by Durant, Beard and Kyrie (and a great staff) couldn't already help Joe's technique and approach, I doubt Korver's going to have the dramatic impact some people are fantasizing about.

gigantes wrote:

I feel bad for Joe but he let the team down. It's on him to make it right.

Foof... You know, it's getting tiresome seeing this lazy hogwash from fans, even after they've had plenty of time now to dial back the nonsense and embrace reality.

Joe let nobody down. He played as hard as he could (as usual), and went along with the team's orders to consistently play him an extra 5-6min all playoffs long.

As could be expected, his shot efficiency began to fall after too many minutes. And knowing him, I would imagine he also compounded things by trying to play even harder. Unfortunately, as many have learned across sports & life, sometimes 'pressing' can in fact backfire. Methinks there might also be a bit of "overachievers syndrome" and "imposters syndrome" involved as well. I wouldn't be surprised, anyway.

If there's two things that I hope change, it's 1) that Joe does a better job of recognising when he's beat, and verbally resists the idea of 'just play though it,' ala the syndromes above, and 2) that Nash understands that the guy is best-suited to average about 31mpg.

Korver will probably help to some degree, although IMO Joe's already the 2nd-best shooter in the league (behind Chef), so I would think the former two things will be much more important than anything Kyle can tell him. Much more likely to me is that Korver has a stronger impact upon the weaker 3pt shooters on the team, not the better ones.

For example, if a team led by Durant, Beard and Kyrie (and a great staff) couldn't already help Joe's technique and approach, I doubt Korver's going to have the dramatic impact some people are fantasizing about.

Joe has a role on the team. He did not carry out his job. He let the team down.

It's not hogwash to say the truth. We can say that Joe was tired and also that he did not execute when the team needed him to do so. It's not an either or thing.

Save this for the folks who legit want to disown Joe after failure. I only want the guy to come back with a point to prove.

MrDollarBills wrote:...Save this for the folks who legit want to disown Joe after failure. I only want the guy to come back with a point to prove.

Eh... let's don't mistake them for REAL Nets fans, dude, because that particular segment is pretty much our hopeless lunatic-fringe talking. And personally, I don't give credence to a rodent's posterior what the deranged lunatic-fringe has ever had to say.

Joe's kicked arse across the last three seasons & postseasons and you godamn know it, Bill.

Specifically, Joe's been an incredible find for Marks, he keeps working his arse off, and the two times in the PO's he's let us down have been the time he had to cover for all our scorers... and then two years later, when... well, again had to do the same. While playing way more minutes than usual.

Lunatics and unhappy people can believe what they want (and they always will), but I'm just NOT interested in the idea that somehow Joe sabotaged us.

Honestly... you people badly need an honest hate-hobby rather than slagging off our players who try their damned hardest. Or from one Nets fan from another-- go FLUFF yourself, you sad sack of annoying crybabies.

gigantes wrote:

MrDollarBills wrote:...Save this for the folks who legit want to disown Joe after failure. I only want the guy to come back with a point to prove.

Eh... let's don't mistake them for REAL Nets fans, dude, because that particular segment is pretty much our hopeless lunatic-fringe talking. And personally, I don't give credence to a rodent's posterior what the deranged lunatic-fringe has ever had to say.

Joe's kicked arse across the last three seasons & postseasons and you godamn know it, Bill.

Specifically, Joe's been an incredible find for Marks, he keeps working his arse off, and the two times in the PO's he's let us down have been the time he had to cover for all our scorers... and then two years later, when... well, again had to do the same. While playing way more minutes than usual.

Lunatics and unhappy people can believe what they want (and they always will), but I'm just NOT interested in the idea that somehow Joe sabotaged us.

Honestly... you people badly need an honest hate-hobby rather than slagging off our players who try their damned hardest. Or from one Nets fan from another-- go FLUFF yourself, you sad sack of annoying crybabies.

Joe's inability to perform up to standard was one of many issues that caused us to lose, but not the sole reason. That still doesn't mean that we can't critique his performance.

Where people lose me is when they blame him entirely, or want him gone. That's not the answer. The Nets need him. His elite shooting is an important part of our team. And he needs to convert on his open looks in the post season, or he's not doing his job as a critical member of the team. Both of these things are true.

I mean, I've been critical of Steve Nash because of how slow he is to react, but the one thing that I actually respect about his coaching is how he didn't give up on Joe...and it backfired on him.

It's not just the team, himself, and the fans who support him that he needs to bounce back for. His coach took an L on his behalf too.

gigantes wrote:

I feel bad for Joe but he let the team down. It's on him to make it right.

Foof... You know, it's getting tiresome seeing this lazy hogwash from fans, even after they've had plenty of time now to dial back the nonsense and embrace reality.

Joe let nobody down. He played as hard as he could (as usual), and went along with the team's orders to consistently play him an extra 5-6min all playoffs long.

As could be expected, his shot efficiency began to fall after too many minutes. And knowing him, I would imagine he also compounded things by trying to play even harder. Unfortunately, as many have learned across sports & life, sometimes 'pressing' can in fact backfire. Methinks there might also be a bit of "overachievers syndrome" and "imposters syndrome" involved as well. I wouldn't be surprised, anyway.

If there's two things that I hope change, it's 1) that Joe does a better job of recognising when he's beat, and verbally resists the idea of 'just play though it,' ala the syndromes above, and 2) that Nash understands that the guy is best-suited to average about 31mpg.

Korver will probably help to some degree, although IMO Joe's already the 2nd-best shooter in the league (behind Chef), so I would think the former two things will be much more important than anything Kyle can tell him. Much more likely to me is that Korver has a stronger impact upon the weaker 3pt shooters on the team, not the better ones.

For example, if a team led by Durant, Beard and Kyrie (and a great staff) couldn't already help Joe's technique and approach, I doubt Korver's going to have the dramatic impact some people are fantasizing about.

I agree. asking joe to play 50 minutes is absurd with shamet rotting on the bench

MrDollarBills wrote:Joe's inability to perform up to standard was one of many issues that caused us to lose, but not the sole reason. That still doesn't mean that we can't critique his performance.

Where people lose me is when they blame him entirely, or want him gone. That's not the answer. The Nets need him. His elite shooting is an important part of our team. And he needs to convert on his open looks in the post season, or he's not doing his job as a critical member of the team. Both of these things are true.

I mean, I've been critical of Steve Nash because of how slow he is to react, but the one thing that I actually respect about his coaching is how he didn't give up on Joe...and it backfired on him.

It's not just the team, himself, and the fans who support him that he needs to bounce back for. His coach took an L on his behalf too.

True... Alright, fair comment, sir.

And I apologise for unloading on you there, dude. You were fairly representing what a gaggle of idiots were saying, and yeah. Tempers rise, and tempers rise again upon this shizzle.

At the same time, I have zero apologies at all for unloading on the dumbass segment of Nets fans scapegoating Joe Harris (and whoever else).

Dudes-- we lost the (likely) championship because of what Giannis did to Kyrie, not because Joe and/or other players underperformed.

THAT is the plain reality, duderinos, and if you don't like it, maybe go back and study our past season, and how much rockier it was than was expected on paper.

If you still feel like Joe, or one of the other key rotation guys were responsible for the game seven loss, here's my sincere thought, dudes--

Go f-ck yourself, you hopeless gaggle of morons.

We lost because of what happened to Kyrie AND having Harden relegated to a role player status with his grade 2 Hammy. Bucks were able to run Joe down plus his minutes were increased to the point he was not the same player in the end. We shouldn’t focus blame on a single player when the dynamic of our team was so severely compromised. Anyways, winning has a way of healing and that is exactly what I foresee in the near future. Marks has done an incredible job filling the holes and adding the depth we need to finish the business. I do hope Nash has also learned to use that depth when a player starts struggling. There is absolutely no reason this year not to do so. We are stacked.

HardenGoat wrote:We lost because of what happened to Kyrie AND having Harden relegated to a role player status with his grade 2 Hammy. Bucks were able to run Joe down plus his minutes were increased to the point he was not the same player in the end. We shouldn’t focus blame on a single player when the dynamic of our team was so severely compromised. Anyways, winning has a way of healing and that is exactly what I foresee in the near future. Marks has done an incredible job filling the holes and adding the depth we need to finish the business. I do hope Nash has also learned to use that depth when a player starts struggling. There is absolutely no reason this year not to do so. We are stacked.

We lost because steve nash is the worst coach to ever step on an nba sideline.

this a pretty good opportunity for korver